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Re: January Window

Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:21 pm

jsclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:04 pm
Agree a centre forward, but one who has the ability and physical presence to also defend set pieces.
We have one who went off to Turkey on his jolly's , but forgot he can't jump for **** :shock:

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Re: January Window

Post by DCWat » Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:09 pm

It very much depends on Twine and / or Churlinov getting fit and making the number ten role their own. That for me is an area that we aren’t as effective enough in as we perhaps should be with all of our possession.

In an ideal world, I’d like an understudy to Cork. A young player to learn the ropes and fill in as required.

Defensively, I’m not convinced that it’s recruits that we need. More a few tweaks to how we defend set plays and long balls.

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Re: January Window

Post by MACCA » Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:16 pm

No read the whole thread, but I hope it's a case of

Norris
Lowton
Long
Barnes
All out for fees/wages off the books and a commanding and experienced CD and a goal scorering FC brought in. Don't care how but think that's what we need to see us over the line

It's quite obvious the rest are needed in dome shape or form
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Re: January Window

Post by mkmel » Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:35 pm

I'm fully in agreement with Macca

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Re: January Window

Post by Quicknick » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:40 am

I would like the big African centre back from Metz.

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Re: January Window

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:42 am

Danny Ings!

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Re: January Window

Post by Cooclaret » Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:13 am

roperclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:56 pm
Most inane post I’ve seen on here for a while - and that’s going some
Show your working…

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Re: January Window

Post by roperclaret » Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:37 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:23 pm
I’d like to see out:

Barnes (retire/coach/sell)
Lowton (sell)
Norris (sell)
Brownhill (forced sale)
Peacock Farrell (sell)
Roberts (sell)
Long (new 5 year contract to help him transition into coaching)

I’d like to see in:

Heaton (backup and coaching role)
Central Midfielder (Dan Neil)
Right back
Left back
Number 10
Strikers X 2 Obafemi as one (1)
OK

Why would Barnes retire? And who would buy him for money?
Again who would pay money for Lowton (even though I still think he is the best Right back at the club)
Again nobody would pay anything for Norris
Why do you want Brownhill to leave? He’s great at this level
BPF - ok which leaves Franchi as number 2?
Roberts - is this you saying we need to sell to raise more money?
Long - I’m assuming this is tongue in cheek

Heaton - not a chance
RB - Ok understandable since you’ve sold 2 right backs but please suggest somebody better
LB - better than Maatsan and Charlie??
No. 10. Doesn’t fit our system - and we have Twine if needed
Yes we maybe need 1 forward

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Re: January Window

Post by Elbarad » Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:52 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:35 pm
Apart from the fact that we've spent tend of millions paying down debt and ALK have shown no previous interest in the January Window before. It's also poor value window hard to buy or sell players etc. but if we are to luxuriate in fantasy then I would go for a back up for Jay Rod...
Well we did buy Wout for 12 million or so in January so I’m pretty sure ALK knows about that window.

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Re: January Window

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:56 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:35 pm
Apart from the fact that we've spent tend of millions paying down debt and ALK have shown no previous interest in the January Window before. It's also poor value window hard to buy or sell players etc. but if we are to luxuriate in fantasy then I would go for a back up for Jay Rod...
How many January's are you basing this on?

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Re: January Window

Post by taio » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:08 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:56 pm
How many January's are you basing this on?
Two I would've thought...when we signed one player as a lower cost replacement for Wood.

I don't think we will, or should, do too much business this January unless there are more outgoings than I'm expecting.

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Re: January Window

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:38 pm

MACCA wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:16 pm
No read the whole thread, but I hope it's a case of

Norris
Lowton
Long
Barnes
All out for fees/wages off the books and a commanding and experienced CD and a goal scorering FC brought in. Don't care how but think that's what we need to see us over the line

It's quite obvious the rest are needed in dome shape or form
The problems with these 4 are : who would want them enough to pay their wages, let alone a fee? why would they leave while on what are very likely to be better contracts than they could expect elsewhere.
perhaps Lowton could get a deal, though I'm not sure.

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Re: January Window

Post by taio » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:42 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:38 pm
The problems with these 4 are : who would want them enough to pay their wages, let alone a fee? why would they leave while on what are very likely to be better contracts than they could expect elsewhere.
perhaps Lowton could get a deal, though I'm not sure.
Loan with us still paying a proportion of the player's wages wouldn't be unusual

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Re: January Window

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:44 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:42 pm
Loan with us still paying a proportion of the player's wages wouldn't be unusual
The issue still remains, they don't have to go out on loan if they don't want to.

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Re: January Window

Post by taio » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:46 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:44 pm
The issue still remains, they don't have to go out on loan if they don't want to.
No but the player would maintain their earnings whilst getting first team football which could be appealing.

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Re: January Window

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:54 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:46 pm
No but the player would maintain their earnings whilst getting first team football which could be appealing.
True, but what level are these 4 at?

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Re: January Window

Post by taio » Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:58 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:54 pm
True, but what level are these 4 at?
Lower championship or league one I imagine

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Re: January Window

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:16 pm

2 out of the 4 have virtually no football on their CV for 2 years (more in one case), can't see any takers for them.... Conference perhaps.

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Re: January Window

Post by taio » Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:23 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:16 pm
2 out of the 4 have virtually no football on their CV for 2 years (more in one case), can't see any takers for them.... Conference perhaps.
I'm not saying all four or even any of them will go. You asked why they would go when they have their current wage. So I just explained, in answer to your question, how loan deals can work in such a situation to enable movement. My view is there will be little activity - both incomings and outgoings - in January.

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Re: January Window

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:26 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:23 pm
I'm not saying all four or even any of them will go. You asked why they would go when they have their current wage. So I just explained, in answer to your question, how loan deals can work in such a situation to enable movement. My view is there will be little activity - both incomings and outgoings - in January.
TBH I can't see much happening at all. We are stuck with the non-players until their contracts run down, I think, which would be a pity all round.

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Re: January Window

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:48 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:10 pm
O'Hare is another midget.......we need some meat in the side.
I don’t care how tall or small he is: Coventry have taken 10 points from 5 games since O’Hare’s return. He’s a fabulous player and Coventry need the money.

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Re: January Window

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:54 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:48 pm
I don’t care how tall or small he is: Coventry have taken 10 points from 5 games since O’Hare’s return. He’s a fabulous player and Coventry need the money.
Wasn’t bothered in the summer, but have watched him now and he does look a very good player. Can only assume we’d need to drop Browny to play him though?

Gykores also. I’d love us to go all out for him in January.

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Re: January Window

Post by RVclaret » Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:56 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:54 pm
Wasn’t bothered in the summer, but have watched him now and he does look a very good player. Can only assume we’d need to drop Browny to play him though?

Gykores also. I’d love us to go all out for him in January.
According to their fans, they want 20m for Gyokeres, so you can forget that one!

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Re: January Window

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:10 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:56 pm
According to their fans, they want 20m for Gyokeres, so you can forget that one!
According to the one Cov fan I know they are headed to the EPL and won't be selling anyone.

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Re: January Window

Post by RVclaret » Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:10 pm
According to the one Cov fan I know they are headed to the EPL and won't be selling anyone.
They are a confident bunch I’ll give them that

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Re: January Window

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:25 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:56 pm
According to their fans, they want 20m for Gyokeres, so you can forget that one!
I wanted £25m for Pope :D

But yes, quite possibly out of our reach if PL teams are interested.

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Re: January Window

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:21 am

Elbarad wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:52 pm
Well we did buy Wout for 12 million or so in January so I’m pretty sure ALK knows about that window.
Yes, Chris Wood invoked a clause in his contract and we sold him for £25 million at a time where we didn't have two strikers at the club who looked like scoring.

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Re: January Window

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:22 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:56 pm
How many January's are you basing this on?
The two we desperately needed players to avoid relegation. One we did and the other we didn't...

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Re: January Window

Post by burnley007 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:11 am

I think 1 goal scorer is all we need. A fairly big signing, like Obafemi.
If we could turn 1 or 2 of the loans into permanents, (beyer?), that would be incredible business.

Would it be too early to start planning for next season in the Prem??

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Re: January Window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:30 am

I would be going all out for a big Ball playing CB and then play Beyer at right back. Beyer would be perfect for that role

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Re: January Window

Post by IanMcL » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:44 am

Too many people want to unload important players, when still half a season to go.
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Re: January Window

Post by welsbyswife » Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:00 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:44 am
Too many people want to unload important players, when still half a season to go.
This is the problem with transfer windows. If there was no "window" in January we'd be pretty happy with the squad and the cover that we have and people wouldn't be making up lists demanding x, y and z. I really wish they would scrap it. But the paymasters love the drama of the window so it's here to stay. Personally I don't think we "need" anyone in January. Ok, there are always areas you'd like to strengthen but we've got a very good squad for this level.
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Re: January Window

Post by IanMcL » Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:02 pm

We get 3 new (returning) players then, anyway!

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Re: January Window

Post by ClaretFelix » Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:13 pm

I reckon a certain blonde haired striker will return on a free now he's seen the change in approach and style of play Kompany has implemented

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Re: January Window

Post by Fretters » Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:28 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:13 pm
I reckon a certain blonde haired striker will return on a free now he's seen the change in approach and style of play Kompany has implemented
Who, Wout? He's out on loan, he wouldn't be back on a free. Would love to see him in this side.
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Re: January Window

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:12 pm

roperclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:37 pm
OK

Why would Barnes retire? And who would buy him for money?
Again who would pay money for Lowton (even though I still think he is the best Right back at the club)
Again nobody would pay anything for Norris
Why do you want Brownhill to leave? He’s great at this level
BPF - ok which leaves Franchi as number 2?
Roberts - is this you saying we need to sell to raise more money?
Long - I’m assuming this is tongue in cheek

Heaton - not a chance
RB - Ok understandable since you’ve sold 2 right backs but please suggest somebody better
LB - better than Maatsan and Charlie??
No. 10. Doesn’t fit our system - and we have Twine if needed
Yes we maybe need 1 forward
Barnes: having made a good living in the game, and obviously being a wise head with the money he’s made might want to transition on his own terms. If not, a host of clubs would pay say 100k-500k for him.

Lowton: 50k - 100k or a pat on the back free from the club is likely in the January 23 window.

Norris: is a good keeper clubs will want him. Maybe no fee but who knows.

BPF: absolutely not, see Heaton below. He’s not going to sit on a bench forever, and he’s seen his pathway closed shut. I would think he will be actively looking for a move and we won’t his contract to run down.

Roberts: nope. Just don’t like him in this system, and I think we have better options. If he has a good World Cup, I think we could and should be cash in.

Long: yep, but he must have a good influence on the dressing room. A number of managers haven’t moved him on.

Brownhill: I think this decision will be taken out of our hands, and if someone said you could swop him for O’Hare and pocket 15 million. I’d say okay happily.

LB: don’t rate Maatsan enough to turn his move permanent, unless it’s for peanuts. Don’t think Charlie is a shoo in in this system and so again cash in.

Heaton: he loves us, is it enough to sit in the U23’s and do your coaching badges at United?

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Re: January Window

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:17 pm

welsbyswife wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:00 pm
This is the problem with transfer windows. If there was no "window" in January we'd be pretty happy with the squad and the cover that we have and people wouldn't be making up lists demanding x, y and z. I really wish they would scrap it. But the paymasters love the drama of the window so it's here to stay. Personally I don't think we "need" anyone in January. Ok, there are always areas you'd like to strengthen but we've got a very good squad for this level.
I think, and I hope Mr. Pace is already chatting with the clubs that we have players on loan with to start the agreements to sign them permanently (if/when promoted). If they don’t want to come, are overpriced, or aren’t available then we need to know now.

That’s a significant amount of money already accounted for from next years budgets. I also hope we have plans to recruit in January 23 for the summer window.

I’m really impressed with Pace and the board. They’ve recruited well on and off the pitch and hopefully will continue to do so.

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Re: January Window

Post by ClaretFelix » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:24 pm

Fretters wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:28 pm
Who, Wout? He's out on loan, he wouldn't be back on a free. Would love to see him in this side.
Czech

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Re: January Window

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm

Czech?

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Re: January Window

Post by ClaretFelix » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:08 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm
Czech?
Vydra
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Re: January Window

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:10 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:08 pm
Vydra
Of course.

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Re: January Window

Post by NellyDBFC » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:25 pm

Trying to aquire some of the loonies on a permanent basis would be my 1st point of call.

THB is a must for me.

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Re: January Window

Post by warksclaret » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:34 pm

An experienced and athletic midfielder-maybe Ben Wiles,or a younger version of Ollie Norwood,particularly as Cullen & Cork are collecting loads of yellow cards, and if one is missing we notice it .Also a physical CF who is good at heading, to take advantage of the crosses we are now providing into the goalmouth. Jay is too injury prone and the fixtures will come so quickly. Ash was fantastic yesterday but its a big challenge to expect him to reproduce it every game. I think that's all we need, but it would be good to get several off our wage bill too like Long and Lawton, who lets face it are not ever going to make the squad

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Re: January Window

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:40 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:44 am
Too many people want to unload important players, when still half a season to go.
Absolutely agree with this. All our players will be vital to us over the course of the season. I wouldn’t let anyone go personally. I think the fact we’ve got the likes of Lowts and Long to come in if there’s any serious injuries to our back line is amazing strength in depth and may well prove pivotal as we enter the business end of the season when injuries kick in.

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Re: January Window

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:55 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:40 pm
Absolutely agree with this. All our players will be vital to us over the course of the season. I wouldn’t let anyone go personally. I think the fact we’ve got the likes of Lowts and Long to come in if there’s any serious injuries to our back line is amazing strength in depth and may well prove pivotal as we enter the business end of the season when injuries kick in.
Or, we embed new players into the system and team now and move out the deadwood now to allow VK and his team time to work with those who will make up the bulk of the squad next year.

No room for sentiment. That ship has sailed.

The less pressure we have on the squad and leadership team in the summer the better. Especially as it looks very likely it’ll be a league transition they’ll be preparing for.

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Re: January Window

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:10 pm

We need a striker for sure to maintain the promotion push - Jay and Ash have age against them and Tella cannot hold up the ball
The Coventry guy will no doubt be way out of our financial resources
As for Obafemi - he was absolute garbage against us and subbed off - no thanks
If Wout is a possibility and VK thinks its worth a go then yes
Would hope we have been looking for a couple of months and our current league position make us an attractive option to other players
Lowton, Long and Norris do not look to have any chance of league action so if we can get them off the wages all well and good

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Re: January Window

Post by Burnley87 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:53 pm

Unless anyone leaves I don’t think we need anyone. Rather we keep our powder dry till the summer when we know What league we will
Be in and recruit to suit that

Agree if we can sign some of the loan players it’s a massive plus

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Re: January Window

Post by Pickles » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:57 pm

Seems a good thread to ask our Belgium based Clarets, and those generally who watch a bit of the Pro League... who's standing out over there? Who may Kompany have his beady eye on? Fair to say it's been a fruitful place for us so far.

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Re: January Window

Post by jedi_master » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:04 pm

It all depends on how VK feels about Dervisoglu, and whether Twine comes in and makes an impact with goals himself. We may not need anyone, especially if Barnes starts to enjoy a bit of a renaissance.

Maybe VK has some other Zaroury-alikes up his sleeve in Belgium that we might look at to slowly introduce as value builders, even if they don’t go straight into the active squad.

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Re: January Window

Post by CohibaClaret » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:24 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:57 pm
Seems a good thread to ask our Belgium based Clarets, and those generally who watch a bit of the Pro League... who's standing out over there? Who may Kompany have his beady eye on? Fair to say it's been a fruitful place for us so far.
Prospects in the pro league that are premier league material:

Duranville, 16 year old winger from Anderlecht who is already showing his ability at the highest level despite his age.
Mike Tresor, playmaker from Genk, most assists in the pro league and the next player for me who will make it in the premier league. His ball control and one vs one dribbling is top notch.
Paul Onuachu, very big center forward who bangs in the goals for fun. Top striker.
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