Jay Rod

[warksclaret]

Somethings wrong with Jay-either an injury or lost his confidence. Suggest its the former which is why he has not made the bench at times in last 7 games recently. With the strength of he squad I am surprised he is starting.Have to agree with some posters-at present Ash is contributing more and I would start him over Jay

[bumba]

Never thought I'd say this in the first few months of the season but Barnes really does need to replace Jay Rod currently

[Grahamjack]

Gyokeres Is a huge improvement in our number 9. Nothing against either Jayrod or Bashley.
Obafemi is not a number 9 for me but he is worth signing as well!
While we are at it let’s sign up Mbappe as well!!!

[KRBFC]

Rodriguez has been poor for a while, should've been Barnes starting after his performance at Bournemouth.

[4midable]

Gyokeres performance vs Jay Rod sums it up really, he's been quiet since we came back from the WC. Jay has been a wonderful servant but if we're going up, we need some fresh blood at the front.

If we go up barnes and jay wont be a part of it

[equinox]

Never thought I'd say this in the first few months of the season but Barnes really does need to replace Jay Rod currently

Wash your mouth out. There are others you know?

Fortunately the way VK set's up, the number 9 isn't totally reliable for goals.

[blatherwickstattoos]

He’s miles off it. Standing still off the ball when full backs have it. Not running the channels, no goal threat, not winning headers, not keeping the ball. Barnes has been more of a threat in 20 mins then him most games and has had 2 games MOM (bastards and Bournemouth) and still not started . Obviously VK knows best but I feel we have been carrying him the last 8/9 games

[distortiondave]

I think, and I could be wrong, that VK made mention of Jay and being the best player in the league in the same sentence.

[bumba]

Wash your mouth out. There are others you know?

Fortunately the way VK set's up, the number 9 isn't totally reliable for goals.

Barnes deserves to start he's in form at the moment

[Quickenthetempo]

Barnes had the benefit of Coventry dropping 20 yards deeper with Tella coming on.
They were scared of his pace.

Jay had a quiet game, as did most while he was on the pitch. But we need to find a way to get him more involved when he's on.

[BleedingClaret]

I think our system is difficult for a number 9 to operate in.
That said Barnes is dealing better within it, he’s coming deep in the build up as is Jay, but doing a slightly better job at keeping possession but the big difference is Barnes is getting right in on the centre backs when we get the ball into the box. Jay just isn’t getting there, maybe fitness maybe confidence but it’s noticeable either way

[Foshiznik]

If Barnes played like Jay has been, he’s past it, should be nowhere near the team, this level, etc.

If Jay plays like it, it’s a virus, he’s tired, carrying an injury, etc.

At least be consistent.

[Colburn_Claret]

If Barnes played like Jay has been, he’s past it, should be nowhere near the team, this level, etc.

If Jay plays like it, it’s a virus, he’s tired, carrying an injury, etc.

At least be consistent.

The difference is Jay has already shown this season that he can be very effective at this level. Now, he's hit a slump.
Ash, on the other hand, had shown nothing in his cameos until coming alive against Blackburn. Thankfully he's carried that form forward.

[1fatclaret]

Sorry but some of the above is absolute garbage. If you stop watching the ball and watch Jay, you’ll see the amount of running he does. The number of times yesterday, particularly first half, we had two wingers with chalk on their boots and Jay making a diagonal run only for the pass not to come to any of them, was ridiculous.

He’s been quiet, no doubt about it, and should have scored at Swansea, but he’s still the best striker we have at the club and will score 7+ more goals this season if he stays fit.

[Burnley1989]

Sorry but some of the above is absolute garbage. If you stop watching the ball and watch Jay, you’ll see the amount of running he does. The number of times yesterday, particularly first half, we had two wingers with chalk on their boots and Jay making a diagonal run only for the pass not to come to any of them, was ridiculous.

He’s been quiet, no doubt about it, and should have scored at Swansea, but he’s still the best striker we have at the club and will score 7+ more goals this season if he stays fit.

Exactly, Kompany comes across as one of the most intelligent managers in the game, there’s no way he’d play him if he offered nothing

[Colburn_Claret]

Exactly, Kompany comes across as one of the most intelligent managers in the game, there’s no way he’d play him if he offered nothing

He also took him off.
Nobody is knocking JayRod, he's had a good season, but last few games, and yesterday he offered nothing. There's nothing unreasonable about wondering if it's lack of form, or due to an injury/ need of a rest. Some people far too touchy.

[BFC Rule OK]

Jay is doing exactly what he is being told to do by VK.

[Colburn_Claret]

Jay is doing exactly what he is being told to do by VK.

So VK is telling Jay not to take a pass, and not to win a header. Your defense of one of our own is laudable, your reasoning less so.

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Jay and the two Joshes were all playing strangely because of the positional setup in the first half - and Maatsen was hardly out on the wing at all: couldn't understand the tactics, but they meant that Jay and Josh B hardly touched the ball in the first half.

[Zom Zom]

He also took him off.
Nobody is knocking JayRod, he's had a good season, but last few games, and yesterday he offered nothing. There's nothing unreasonable about wondering if it's lack of form, or due to an injury/ need of a rest. Some people far too touchy.

I feel he made a huge impact at Stoke to be fair, we looked more mobile when he came on. We have to realise that whatever grade the opposition, they are professionals and will try to negate any threat we pose. Maybe the opposition yesterday had the measure of him? That’s why he was subbed for Barnes.

[elwaclaret]

How quick our our Loyal fans to write off our players. He many times have we had threads like this writing Barnes and JRod off… how many times have the same fans been seen to back track when they hit a run of form?

[helmclaret]

Once again people displaying extreme views, a bit like the Muric debate.

Jay still has a lot to offer but it’s not working for him at the moment.

[Colburn_Claret]

I feel he made a huge impact at Stoke to be fair, we looked more mobile when he came on. We have to realise that whatever grade the opposition, they are professionals and will try to negate any threat we pose. Maybe the opposition yesterday had the measure of him? That’s why he was subbed for Barnes.

You could well be right, this isn't an argument, I just thought, imo, that he looked a yard off the pace yesterday, for whatever reason.

[KlyBfc]

Jay and the two Joshes were all playing strangely because of the positional setup in the first half - and Maatsen was hardly out on the wing at all: couldn't understand the tactics, but they meant that Jay and Josh B hardly touched the ball in the first half.

I thought Coventry had done their homework and pinned down the whole central midfield. They shut down the space and players quickly. The left midfielder played more like a left central midfielder and both him and hamer shut Cullen down very quickly, and the space between lines (midfield and defence) was limited, this restricted the Jay and Brownhill threat. A mixture of our changes (JBG cuteness, Tellas threat in behind and Barnes directness) and their desire to drop deeper and go 5 at the back helped us to control the second half.

[bobinho]

How quick our our Loyal fans to write off our players. He many times have we had threads like this writing Barnes and JRod off… how many times have the same fans been seen to back track when they hit a run of form?

I don't think anyone has written him off, just saying that he looks a little off the pace - and he does. Good player at this level, there's no doubt about it, but somethings just not quite right at the moment. Those suggesting Barnes is offering more are bang on, because he is. Neither are the future tho should we go up.

[Belgianclaret]

Jay Rod, Burnley icon.
He’s one of our own, get behind him

[Rileybobs]

He’s in a poor run of form but isn’t exactly helped by the system we play in which he’s often playing a sacrificial role. He drops deep and shows for the ball constantly, but he never receives it. Presumably this is an instruction and his showing for the ball is designed to create space for others to run in behind.

That said, he’s not getting on the end of any pull backs or crosses, other than the absolute dolly he missed at Swansea, which is perhaps indicative of his confidence at the moment. He’ll come good again, but Barnes should come in on Friday.

[Spike]

Kompany knows best

[boatshed bill]

He’s in a poor run of form but isn’t exactly helped by the system we play in which he’s often playing a sacrificial role. He drops deep and shows for the ball constantly, but he never receives it. Presumably this is an instruction and his showing for the ball is designed to create space for others to run in behind.

That said, he’s not getting on the end of any pull backs or crosses, other than the absolute dolly he missed at Swansea, which is perhaps indicative of his confidence at the moment. He’ll come good again, but Barnes should come in on Friday.

That's not far off. also we are not controlling games as well lately which doesn't help. We seem to be more hurried when in possession.

[houseboy]

When our number one striker is being dropped for Barnes you have to worry slightly. He reached nine goals in no time and zilch since. Thankfully we are scoring from all over the place (15 goal scorers now) but we sure as eggs is eggs need a striker in this window to scare defences more. I’m sad that Weghorst has gone to United to be honest.

[boatshed bill]

When our number one striker is being dropped for Barnes you have to worry slightly. He reached nine goals in no time and zilch since. Thankfully we are scoring from all over the place (15 goal scorers now) but we sure as eggs is eggs need a striker in this window to scare defences more. I’m sad that Weghorst has gone to United to be honest.

Dropped?

I agree we need someone fresh up front, but come on... no one has been dropped, we have a squad.

[elwaclaret]

Dropped?

I agree we need someone fresh up front, but come on... no one has been dropped, we have a squad.

Quite right, BB and it does stand being pointed out. We need to get away from thinking 1-11 and subs. It isn’t like that any more.

[KRBFC]

I do think the team has been off it the last few league games, still setting a high standard and still winning games, just not at our very fluent best. It's almost like this is our dip in form, the bad patch other fans often say we'll go through, we're just so far ahead of the rest we can beat the majority of sides at this level whilst remaining in gear 2.

[houseboy]

Dropped?

I agree we need someone fresh up front, but come on... no one has been dropped, we have a squad.

Clumsy wording from me. What I was trying to say was if Barnes is considered our best option just now by many then we are in poor way striker wise. If we actually had a good striker (as opposed to an okayish one) we could be even further ahead than we are. I don’t know what has happened to Jay but Barnes sure as hell ain’t the answer.

[beddie]

Clumsy wording from me. What I was trying to say was if Barnes is considered our best option just now by many then we are in poor way striker wise. If we actually had a good striker (as opposed to an okayish one) we could be even further ahead than we are.

I don’t know what has happened to Jay but Barnes sure as hell ain’t the answer.

Maybe, but he is at the moment. (Barnes) I know he’s not the most skilful or everyone’s favourite but he never fails to give 100% and to me I can’t ask for more.

[jedi_master]

I do think the team has been off it the last few league games, still setting a high standard and still winning games, just not at our very fluent best. It's almost like this is our dip in form, the bad patch other fans often say we'll go through, we're just so far ahead of the rest we can beat the majority of sides at this level whilst remaining in gear 2.

I think that's fair, we haven't been at our best bar in patches. Second half against Coventry when we pinned them in for 25 minutes we were more like ourselves.

We will need to be on it from minute one for West Brom.