Tonight’s Football

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Foshiznik » Mon May 15, 2023 10:46 pm

ChrisG wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 8:33 pm
I've never gotten over that 4 nil in 2011. I can't hear Fire by Kasabian without thinking about Jensen's 'perfomance' that day
Is that the one Ben Mee played for Leicester in?

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 15, 2023 10:51 pm

I can't get over just how bad Leicester were in a "must not lose" game

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon May 15, 2023 11:04 pm

Too many unmotivated players who are either out-of-contract at the end of the season or who know they will easily find employment at another Premier League, or high ranking international, Club. Going down for sure now I think. A shame as I was hoping for an Everton relegation but think its now between Leeds and Forest along with Southampton and Leicester. Everton's final home game v On-the beach Bournemouth feels like a definite three points for them.
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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by AmbleClaret » Mon May 15, 2023 11:06 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 10:51 pm
I can't get over just how bad Leicester were in a "must not lose" game
We had a fair few of those in our last relegation season to be fair, Norwich away springs to mind.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by ClaretLoup » Mon May 15, 2023 11:08 pm

Re Leicester’s finances the owners recently converted £194 million debt into equity as they did previously in 2013 (£100m)

Apparently this was accrued largely to cover the costs of their new £200 million training facility.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon May 15, 2023 11:25 pm

Everton maybe safe after their next game but if it goes to Bournemouth don’t rule out a Cherries win. Pragmatically they may want rid of Everton rather than Forest or Leeds, the latter two being weaker next season as AFCB start their “2nd season syndrome”.

I agree though it doesn’t look good for Leicester. Like us last season their goal difference doesn’t indicate a relegation side but I can’t see them getting 4 points and they will need them.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 15, 2023 11:30 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 11:04 pm
Too many unmotivated players who are either out-of-contract at the end of the season or who know they will easily find employment at another Premier League, or high ranking international, Club. Going down for sure now I think. A shame as I was hoping for an Everton relegation but think its now between Leeds and Forest along with Southampton and Leicester. Everton's final home game v On-the beach Bournemouth feels like a definite three points for them.
got rid of too many experienced players, selling Schmeical was a massive moment for them

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue May 16, 2023 12:20 am

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 11:04 pm
Too many unmotivated players who are either out-of-contract at the end of the season or who know they will easily find employment at another Premier League, or high ranking international, Club. Going down for sure now I think. A shame as I was hoping for an Everton relegation but think its now between Leeds and Forest along with Southampton and Leicester. Everton's final home game v On-the beach Bournemouth feels like a definite three points for them.
I was going to post the same. Very similar to us last season. A few knowing they were seeing out a year, a few out of form and the “we are in it together” seemed to disappear.
Leicester haven’t half missed Kasper Schmeichel.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Tim Burr » Tue May 16, 2023 4:37 am

I agree with Vegasclaret, not supporting your own side, leaving before the end when you are not winning does not make you a true supporter. Like many on here I would never leave before the game was over, win or not.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by ChrisG » Tue May 16, 2023 6:49 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 10:46 pm
Is that the one Ben Mee played for Leicester in?
That's the one aye.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by DCWat » Tue May 16, 2023 7:12 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 11:25 pm
Everton maybe safe after their next game but if it goes to Bournemouth don’t rule out a Cherries win. Pragmatically they may want rid of Everton rather than Forest or Leeds, the latter two being weaker next season as AFCB start their “2nd season syndrome”.

I agree though it doesn’t look good for Leicester. Like us last season their goal difference doesn’t indicate a relegation side but I can’t see them getting 4 points and they will need them.
Leeds may be much stronger, if they avoid relegation. Their takeover is likely to happen which probably means a big uplift in spending. Don’t stay up and the takeover could be up in the air.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Spijed » Tue May 16, 2023 7:26 am

Leicester are a prime example that no matter how much success a team can have (winning the PL, FA Cup, Charity Shield, playing Champions league football in just a few seasons) that unless you are one of the biggest clubs then you're not guaranteed safety each season.

Shows how difficult it is for teams to get a foothold in the Premier league regardless of what you've won.
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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Quicknick » Tue May 16, 2023 7:38 am

DCWat wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 7:12 am
Leeds may be much stronger, if they avoid relegation. Their takeover is likely to happen which probably means a big uplift in spending. Don’t stay up and the takeover could be up in the air.
Imperative, for me at least, that Leeds go down.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by warksclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 8:41 am

Went last night-Leicester were awful, and but for the Liverpool fans the atmosphere would have disappeared after 25 minutes. Too many big named players who are surely moving on in June, and they appeared not to be connected or engaged with the game-Tilemans, Maddison to mention a few. I have seen Forest, Leeds, Everton really fighting to survive in the last month or so. Its just not there with Leicester-almost a resignation they are down by the players. Leicester cannot survive now, and have as big a rebuilding job as we did a year ago, if not bigger.They have simply not planned in the last two years. Like us vital they make the right manager choice, but I genuinely believe that manager will not get the level of support Vinnie has had.I understand that like us there is a wage drop for players if relegated-their good players still under contract like Castagne, Faux, Barnes, will want away

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue May 16, 2023 8:47 am

Leicester never been the same since they lost Drinkwater

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 8:48 am

Spijed wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 7:26 am
Leicester are a prime example that no matter how much success a team can have (winning the PL, FA Cup, Charity Shield, playing Champions league football in just a few seasons) that unless you are one of the biggest clubs then you're not guaranteed safety each season.

Shows how difficult it is for teams to get a foothold in the Premier league regardless of what you've won.
They absolutely had a foothold but stood still for a season or two - that's what you cannot do in the Premier League.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by warksclaret » Tue May 16, 2023 8:58 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 8:48 am
They absolutely had a foothold but stood still for a season or two - that's what you cannot do in the Premier League.
Agreed-the PL moves on at a frantic rate. Just look at the players this season's relegation threated teams have-Everton, Forest, Leicester, Leeds, even Saints. Compare this to last years Watford & Norwich, plus ourselves. Just pleased we are not in the Championship next year as the top 6 teams will be stronger

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by nil_desperandum » Tue May 16, 2023 8:59 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon May 15, 2023 11:30 pm
got rid of too many experienced players, selling Schmeical was a massive moment for them
Along with inexplicably appointing Dean Smith. That was their Brian Laws moment, but there was more logic in us appointing Laws and we were desperate given the circumstances.
They should never have got rid of Rogers if Smith was the only option.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue May 16, 2023 10:02 am

Can still see it being Leeds to go.
If they dont win at West Ham this weekend, they'll have to beat Spurs at home last game. Two draws will see them down, i reckon.
Spurs terrible though. Incredibly tight, GD could easily decide on the last day.

As someone already said, looks like Leicester have thrown in the towel.

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Re: Tonight’s Football

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 16, 2023 3:23 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 8:59 am
Along with inexplicably appointing Dean Smith. That was their Brian Laws moment, but there was more logic in us appointing Laws and we were desperate given the circumstances.
They should never have got rid of Rogers if Smith was the only option.
yep very strange

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