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Re: Bournemouth next week
Who’s playing right back?
Think I’d be tempted with O’Shea there you know.
Can’t be as bad as he’s been at centre half and I’d like a bit of extra height in the team.
Not sure on where we stand with the fitness of Beyer and Ekdal though which is a problem.
Think Delcroix is better than given credit for like; would like to see Al Dakhil out of the side for a while and brought back in slowly.
Time for Brunn Larsen, Zaroury/Redmond as well and yeah Cork back in a dedicated sitting two man midfield with Cullen.
Brownhill back in the ‘number 10’ / Hendrick ish role that he played last season and press from the front.
Think I’d be tempted with O’Shea there you know.
Can’t be as bad as he’s been at centre half and I’d like a bit of extra height in the team.
Not sure on where we stand with the fitness of Beyer and Ekdal though which is a problem.
Think Delcroix is better than given credit for like; would like to see Al Dakhil out of the side for a while and brought back in slowly.
Time for Brunn Larsen, Zaroury/Redmond as well and yeah Cork back in a dedicated sitting two man midfield with Cullen.
Brownhill back in the ‘number 10’ / Hendrick ish role that he played last season and press from the front.
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Re: Bournemouth next week
And vithinio nearly too if I remember right.
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Not true though is it?
Muric, Zaroury, Benson, Brownhill all fit to start the season.
Should all have been starting against City
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Benson had no pre-season so he was not fit to start against City. Zaroury got pocketed by Walker in the away game last season, came on anyway and got sent off. Brownhill was supposedly not fully fit according to his brother.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:47 pmNot true though is it?
Muric, Zaroury, Benson, Brownhill all fit to start the season.
Should all have been starting against City
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We spent 19 m on Trafford and he no better than Muric .. coukd be worse ,, signed Ramsey for around 15m but our first choice Hamer at Coventry we wouldn’t pay the money even with them wanting mcnally who we sent to Stoke instead ,,,we turned down Tella at 15m who then got sold for over 20 m then bought Amoudini who we knew nothing about for 16m .. tresor we signed on loan with a guaranteed purchase when we have Zaroury who looks miles better can’t even get on the bench ,, some strange things gone on
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Not sure I agree they all should have startedCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:47 pmNot true though is it?
Muric, Zaroury, Benson, Brownhill all fit to start the season.
Should all have been starting against City
Was Benson fit?....surprised Zaroury didn't start I agree, but the poster wasn't talking just about the first game....so you can take those two out of the list.
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We haven't spent 19 million on Trafford, when will it get through to some people.Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:52 pmWe spent 19 m on Trafford and he no better than Muric .. coukd be worse ,, signed Ramsey for around 15m but our first choice Hamer at Coventry we wouldn’t pay the money even with them wanting mcnally who we sent to Stoke instead ,,,we turned down Tella at 15m who then got sold for over 20 m then bought Amoudini who we knew nothing about for 16m .. tresor we signed on loan with a guaranteed purchase when we have Zaroury who looks miles better can’t even get on the bench ,, some strange things gone on
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Brownhill on the bench first three league games no? Can’t have been that unfit.
Heaven forbid Zaroury got pocketed by the best defensive fullback in world football away at the Etihad.
How did Gvardiol do against City the game before we played them last season?
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Re: Bournemouth next week
Muric
Taylor Ekdal AAD Vitinho
Cork Cullen
Zaroury Brownhill Koleosho
Foster
Taylor Ekdal AAD Vitinho
Cork Cullen
Zaroury Brownhill Koleosho
Foster
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Maybe needed easing in? Just going off what his brother said.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:59 pmBrownhill on the bench first three league games no? Can’t have been that unfit.
Heaven forbid Zaroury got pocketed by the best defensive fullback in world football away at the Etihad.
How did Gvardiol do against City the game before we played them last season?
Not saying it’s owt on Zaroury, just that it’s not the end of the world that we tried something slightly different to upset City. And again, he came on, did nothing and got sent off.
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You still don’t make the vast changes we did to start a season. It’s proper rookie stuff.
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We’ve got to win this next game. Who knows what the team will be , it’s a huge game now and I fear we could end up adrift before the January window if we don’t improve quickly.
Dependant on who is available I’d go for this
Muric
Vitinho
Al-Dakhil
O’Shea
Taylor
Cullen
Brownhill
Berge
Zaroury
Foster
Larsen
Dependant on who is available I’d go for this
Muric
Vitinho
Al-Dakhil
O’Shea
Taylor
Cullen
Brownhill
Berge
Zaroury
Foster
Larsen
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Fit to start is different from sitting on the bench on a ‘just in case’ basis.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:59 pmBrownhill on the bench first three league games no? Can’t have been that unfit.
Heaven forbid Zaroury got pocketed by the best defensive fullback in world football away at the Etihad.
How did Gvardiol do against City the game before we played them last season?
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Not for 3 weeks!Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:49 pmFit to start is different from sitting on the bench on a ‘just in case’ basis.
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Not confident about this at all based on what I’ve seen to date. It would be no surprise if we got battered 4-0. If we persist with line ups like we have been doing and the clueless tactics we’ve no chance. We need Muric in and we just cannot play Berge as a CDM. Personally do not like Amdouni and Foster in the same line up. We need players like Ekdal, Beyer and Zaroury back in if fit.
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Brownhill plays next to Cullen or doesn’t play.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:16 pmWho’s playing right back?
Think I’d be tempted with O’Shea there you know.
Can’t be as bad as he’s been at centre half and I’d like a bit of extra height in the team.
Not sure on where we stand with the fitness of Beyer and Ekdal though which is a problem.
Think Delcroix is better than given credit for like; would like to see Al Dakhil out of the side for a while and brought back in slowly.
Time for Brunn Larsen, Zaroury/Redmond as well and yeah Cork back in a dedicated sitting two man midfield with Cullen.
Brownhill back in the ‘number 10’ / Hendrick ish role that he played last season and press from the front.
We have enough number tens in Berge, Ramsey, Amdouni, even Redmond.
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Berge has not played as a CDM once except arguably against City.Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:12 pmNot confident about this at all based on what I’ve seen to date. It would be no surprise if we got battered 4-0. If we persist with line ups like we have been doing and the clueless tactics we’ve no chance. We need Muric in and we just cannot play Berge as a CDM. Personally do not like Amdouni and Foster in the same line up. We need players like Ekdal, Beyer and Zaroury back in if fit.
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We have got to stop conceding goals.Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:42 pmWe’ve got to win this next game. Who knows what the team will be , it’s a huge game now and I fear we could end up adrift before the January window if we don’t improve quickly.
Dependant on who is available I’d go for this
Muric
Vitinho
Al-Dakhil
O’Shea
Taylor
Cullen
Brownhill
Berge
Zaroury
Foster
Larsen
I would honestly be tempted to go with the below just to get some solidity.
Trafford
Vitinho, O’Shea, Al Dakhil, Delcroix, Taylor
Cork, Cullen, Brownhill
Foster, Amdouni
Goes completely against what VK wants, as none of his 8 wingers get in but that’s the only formation I can see where we potentially keep a clean sheet
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Yeah that’s more shade to the recruitment
& he hasn’t really been playing ‘next’ to him this year as a sitting midfielder.
I think we need him back where he was best last season - and where he managed to find himself in the Champ team of the year.
We miss his energy pressing from the front.
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Yeah I’ll agree with this really - I think he’s definitely meant to do more defensively dependent on personnel but that could just be me misinterpreting it.
For example against Villa I’m fairly certain he was meant to be more disciplined.
Do you think the current system we’re trying to do sort of emulate Arsenal?
Sitting midfielder, two floating 8s?
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We beat them 4 - 1 with last season squad, so this may put to bed the argument of which is our better squad/tactics last season or this season.
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If my memory serves me right I think they played a full strength team needing the money for the next round
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I don't consider any opposition when we are away a 'must win' in October.alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:52 pmI'd love to know which opposition you'd consider must win if this one isn't![]()
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It is, sorry. Not from the point of view that we will be relegated as a result of losing,obviously. But given our poor start,lack of cohesion,confidence etc ,we really must use it as a springboard to turn things around. Otherwise, where do you suggest the positives will come from.
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Possibly away to Bournemouth or at home to Palace.AmbleClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:44 pmIt is, sorry. Not from the point of view that we will be relegated as a result of losing,obviously. But given our poor start,lack of cohesion,confidence etc ,we really must use it as a springboard to turn things around. Otherwise, where do you suggest the positives will come from.
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I agree If we don’t play two holding midfielders we ares screwed.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:16 pmWho’s playing right back?
Think I’d be tempted with O’Shea there you know.
Can’t be as bad as he’s been at centre half and I’d like a bit of extra height in the team.
Not sure on where we stand with the fitness of Beyer and Ekdal though which is a problem.
Think Delcroix is better than given credit for like; would like to see Al Dakhil out of the side for a while and brought back in slowly.
Time for Brunn Larsen, Zaroury/Redmond as well and yeah Cork back in a dedicated sitting two man midfield with Cullen.
Brownhill back in the ‘number 10’ / Hendrick ish role that he played last season and press from the front.
Brownhill doesn’t offer anything in the ten, apart from losing the ball upfield, would rather have Berge there in a 4-2-3-1.
Agree Larsen needs to play on right with kolo and zaroury on the left sub etc.
Need to get Ekdal or Beyer fit as a minimum.
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Brownhill does mate he presses from the front and also tracks back - Berge can come off the bench for 35 mins or so.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:00 pmI agree If we don’t play two holding midfielders we ares screwed.
Brownhill doesn’t offer anything in the ten, apart from losing the ball upfield, would rather have Berge there in a 4-2-3-1.
Agree Larsen needs to play on right with kolo and zaroury on the left sub etc.
Need to get Ekdal or Beyer fit as a minimum.
Zaroury or Redmond to start. Koleosho doesn’t have the same ability with the ball.
Need footballers with high game/field intelligence right now that have been there a bit before. Absolutely have to get a result.
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He might press but he does little else , doesn’t offer anything going forward ( at this level) and we need someone with some forward passing like Berge in there tbh. I’m not a fan of his and never have been so my perception may be biasedCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:11 pmBrownhill does mate he presses from the front and also tracks back - Berge can come off the bench for 35 mins or so.
Zaroury or Redmond to start. Koleosho doesn’t have the same ability with the ball.
Need footballers with high game/field intelligence right now that have been there a bit before. Absolutely have to get a result.
Zaroury seems out of favour which is bizarre to say the least. Needs another start for me or at least 45 minutes off the bench.
Brun Larsen also owed a start I would imagine.
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Maybe Kompany has an axe to grind because Zaroury ditched Belgium for MoroccoSuperjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:38 pmZaroury seems out of favour which is bizarre to say the least.

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Or ours…
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Zaroury and Brunn Larsen would help with our ball retention and passing up top id have thought -Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:38 pmHe might press but he does little else , doesn’t offer anything going forward ( at this level) and we need someone with some forward passing like Berge in there tbh. I’m not a fan of his and never have been so my perception may be biased
Zaroury seems out of favour which is bizarre to say the least. Needs another start for me or at least 45 minutes off the bench.
Brun Larsen also owed a start I would imagine.
Don’t forget Brownhill bagged a few from there early season last year - he still has something to offer.
The other obvious candidate is Redmond; certainly not averse to Berge further forward just hate him out of possession.
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I’d have Cork, Zaroury and Redmond in against Bournemouth.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:53 pmZaroury and Brunn Larsen would help with our ball retention and passing up top id have thought -
Don’t forget Brownhill bagged a few from there early season last year - he still has something to offer.
The other obvious candidate is Redmond; certainly not averse to Berge further forward just hate him out of possession.
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I reckon Brownhill could tap a mean corner into touch right next to the corner flag so he should probably be included.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:01 amYeah wouldn’t hate it; as long as we belt our corners out for throwins though
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———————Trafford
Vitinho——AAD——Delcroix——Taylor
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Amdouni—Berge—Brownhill——Zaroury
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Vitinho——AAD——Delcroix——Taylor
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Amdouni—Berge—Brownhill——Zaroury
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Think that offers the best balance from what’s available?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:35 amReally struggling to see how that team concedes less than 2.
No dig btw, just think we look really unbalanced
That midfield 3 had been looking more structured. Allow Amdouni to drift central.