If only we had a striker...

[taio]

Christ almighty are any suggestions allowed here? So bored of the ‘gotcha’ attempts.

Do players lose speed as they age? Yep… Would that be out of the realm to suggest a player that isn’t blessed with pace to begin with might lose a bit of acceleration from being younger to getting to the end of his prime? No…

150 plus career goals. Lyle has under 30.

Lyle has shown that he can be a PL striker - still has a long way to go to have had the career that Weghorst has had ffs

I can assure you Weghorst was not quicker at 26/27 than he was at 29.

[CoolClaret]

Couldn't care less what he's done elsewhere. He was useless here.

29 means end of their prime is utter nonsense

Almost like I wasn’t referencing their Burnley careers when looking at the overall body of work.

29 of course is coming towards the end of the prime for the majority of football players. Doesn’t mean that they still can’t be effective but the first attributes to go tend to be zip/acceleration.

[taio]

Almost like I wasn’t referencing their Burnley careers when looking at the overall body of work.

29 of course is coming towards the end of the prime for the majority of football players. Doesn’t mean that they still can’t be effective but the first attributes to go tend to be zip/acceleration.

Weghorst has never had zip/acceleration.

The list of strikers who were outstanding at 29 is endless.

[CoolClaret]

Weghorst has never had zip/acceleration.

The list of strikers who were outstanding at 29 is endless.

I never said he had zip or acceleration or suggested that there aren’t strikers that aren’t world beaters at 29.

I suggested that one of the first things to go in athletes as they age is acceleration/power (as it is) and the late 20s is usually the end of the prime for footballers.

There are of course outliers no doubt that have a longer prime and retain their speed/power for longer.

I was merely suggesting that we *may* have seen more from Weghorst at sort of 26 in the Prem.

[taio]

I never said he had zip or acceleration or suggested that there aren’t strikers that aren’t world beaters at 29.

I suggested that one of the first things to go in athletes as they age is acceleration/power (as it is) and the late 20s is usually the end of the prime for footballers.

There are of course outliers no doubt that have a longer prime and retain their speed/power for longer.

I was merely suggesting that we *may* have seen more from Weghorst at sort of 26 in the Prem.

With little thought I can immediately think of strikers like Van Persie, Bergkamp, Drogba and Kane who hit their peak around 29. I could carry on with a long list.

Bottom line is Weghorst didn't want to be here.

[Big Vinny K]

Van Nistleroy, Totti, Del Piero etc etc

[CoolClaret]

With little thought I can immediately think of strikers like Van Persie, Bergkamp, Drogba and Kane who hit their peak around 29. I could carry on with a long list.

Bottom line is Weghorst didn't want to be here.

Myth that he didn't want to be here. Ran his ******** off when played, is he an egotstical diva? Probably...

Yeah and for your little thought there can be a list of players that dropped off when pushing 30

My point being for a player that's already slow, another hit on their acceleration would be really noticable (especially after a few injuries)

https://theathletic.com/2935360/2021/11 ... ions-peak/

[taio]

Myth that he didn't want to be here. Ran his ******** off when played, is he an egotstical diva? Probably...

Yeah and for your little thought there can be a list of players that dropped off when pushing 30

My point being for a player that's already slow, another hit on their acceleration would be really noticable (especially after a few injuries)

https://theathletic.com/2935360/2021/11 ... ions-peak/

Unbelievable that you think Weghorst wanted to be here. It's so blatantly obvious he didn't. I can't even begin to understand how anyone could think that. Not too dissimilar saying strikers are beyond their peak at 29.

[CoolClaret]

Unbelievable that you think Weghorst wanted to be here. It's so blatantly obvious he didn't. I can't even begin to understand how anyone could think that. Not too dissimilar saying strikers are beyond their peak at 29.

His onfield actions suggested he was comitted to the cause.

If you want to find where I said that strikers are beyond their peak at 29 then go for it. I said it's coming towards the end of their (athletic) prime.

[taio]

His onfield actions suggested he was comitted to the cause.

If you want to find where I said that strikers are beyond their peak at 29 then go for it. I said it's coming towards the end of their (athletic) prime.

He couldn't get away fast enough. I acknowledge you said a player aged 29 is at the end of their prime. But there are countless examples that disprove that. I'd go further than that and say that it's especially true of forwards who have never relied on pace and acceleration. I couldn't access the link that you posted because I don't have an account, but I can almost guarantee that it says it's not straightforward, depends on a player's position and their attributes.

[CoolClaret]

He couldn't get away fast enough. I acknowledge you said a player aged 29 is at the end of their prime. But there are countless examples that disprove that. I'd go further than that and say that it's especially true of forwards who have never relied on pace and acceleration. I couldn't access the link that you posted because I don't have an account, but I can almost guarantee that it says it's not straightforward, depends on a player's position and their attributes.

It suggests that 27 is the prime age for a striker.

Anyway - properly going past my initial point that was picked up on being that Wout has had a good career.

I also believe that we were better when both he and Cork played in our relegation season but he absolutely lacked the acceleration to really be effective in the PL.

Worth noting as well that even though he didn’t bag for United, they were much more potent going forward with his inclusion in their side last year. I think we should’ve kept him this season.

[Darthlaw]

Weghorst didn’t want to be here the second Van Gaal told him if he stayed, he wasn’t going to be considered for the Holland World Cup squad.

Which is fair enough, in my eyes, when I take my Burnley specs off.

On the point of his performance yesterday, scoring against Ireland isn’t going to magically make him into a decent PL striker, just as scoring against Argentina didn’t.

He’s at his level in the German league.

[taio]

It suggests that 27 is the prime age for a striker.

Anyway - properly going past my initial point that was picked up on being that Wout has had a good career.

I also believe that we were better when both he and Cork played in our relegation season but he absolutely lacked the acceleration to really be effective in the PL.

Worth noting as well that even though he didn’t bag for United, they were much more potent going forward with his inclusion in their side last year. I think we should’ve kept him this season.

I don't think we should've kept him this season because he clearly didn't want to be here. It really is as simple as that.

[Kilson810]

I mean.. Two (three when Obafemi is fully fit) of their starting lineup plays regularly for us...

I should have qualified that statement as meaning our full strength team would beat Ireland. O'Shea, Cullen and Obafemi probably wouldn't start for us if we had everyone fully fit (with the exception of maybe Cullen if he starts to step up).