Thank God that’s all over

[quoonbeatz]

The idea that Luton made a better fist of staying is very lol. They were way off it, all 3 promoted clubs were. In fact we'd have been level on points but for one of the worst refereeing decisions of the season.

[Jakubclaret]

Nobody really made a good go of it as the points tallys testament but I'd say they made a better go of it than us. It might only be 2 points but on the back of the championship season Luton was expected to finish where Sheffield united ended up with us replacing Luton so all in all they did better than many people expected them to.

[Boss Hogg]

According to Kompany yesterday was meant to be the beginning of our re-set for next season. 15 minutes in we are 2 down and the defence looking as ropey as at any time this season. 72% possession and three shots on target tells you all you need to know about our attacking play and our goal was as jammy as they come and they never looked like adding to it.

Hoping VK isn’t thinking we won’t play as badly going forward or we are in trouble

[kentonclaret]

The idea that Luton made a better fist of staying is very lol. They were way off it, all 3 promoted clubs were. In fact we'd have been level on points but for one of the worst refereeing decisions of the season.

Before a ball was kicked this season Burnley were priced up at 2/5 by William Hill to finish as the Top Promoted Club with Luton priced up as the outsider of 3 at 9/2.
The very fact that Luton ended the season as Top Promoted Club against all the odds proves that they made a far better fist of staying up than the Clarets.

[quoonbeatz]

I think I'd probably go with what actually happened over what betting odds were 8 months ago but either way I reckon making far better fist of staying up would have meant... staying up. As it was, they got 2 points more than us. Any way you look at it, that's not a 'far better' fist of it.

[Elizabeth]

Luton definitely gave their fans more hope than we got. We knew we were down very early , Luton ran out of steam . Needless to say relegation happened to both teams but I know which experience I would have wanted

[quoonbeatz]

Only because we've got the experience of having been down there before and know what it takes. Luton fans might have had hope but to the experienced, trained eye they were realistically gone as early as we were.

[Elizabeth]

Only because we've got the experience of having been down there before and know what it takes. Luton fans might have had hope but to the experienced, trained eye they were realistically gone as early as we were.

No idea what you are talking about when you refer to the experienced trained eye, maybe yourself but can't see the evidence

[quoonbeatz]

Just people who understand football, thought that was fairly obvious.

[blatherwickstattoos]

We won’t be walking no league with this squad. Need 4 or 5 new players minimum

[Elizabeth]

Just people who understand football, thought that was fairly obvious.

I've never put you in that bracket but you do so good luck

[quoonbeatz]

I've never put you in that bracket but you do so good luck

You're right, I do understand football, good to hear you've realised your rating system needs revision.

[Elizabeth]

You're right, I do understand football, good to hear you've realised your rating system needs revision.

So deluded

[boyyanno]

The idea that Luton made a better fist of staying is very lol. They were way off it, all 3 promoted clubs were. In fact we'd have been level on points but for one of the worst refereeing decisions of the season.

The table literally proves Luton made a better fist of it.

That's about as black and white and factual as you can get.

[quoonbeatz]

So deluded

Lol deluxe.

[quoonbeatz]

The table literally proves Luton made a better fist of it.

That's about as black and white and factual as you can get.

Like I said, a better fist of it would have been actually staying up. All 3 promoted teams were way off good enough.

[NewClaret]

We have a decent squad, especially those coming back from loan moves coming back into the fold.

My worry is, will they play for the manager? I cant imagine the likes of Benson, Zaroury, Twine, Obafemi really pulling up trees to impress him. He's cast them aside already once.

I think losing JBG and Cork will be a big miss for us, having them in them in the Championship as leaders would've been a real benefit.

I don't expect next season to be a walk in the park again. I don't think the likes of Amdouni, Tresor, Foster and Delcroix have enough about them to cut it at that level.

I think the whole ‘will they play for Kompany’ thing is over stated, particularly with that group you mention. Kompany talks a lot about the communication with the players, the care they give them, etc. And he’s very recently an ex player himself, so I’m certain he’ll know how to treat them.

I expect he’ll have spoken properly with all of them, explained why they’re not playing and what he wants them to improve and very probably arranged loans that best allow them to do that. I don’t think they’ll have sensed they’re discarded. I think they’ll have been professional and approached it in the right way.

The way we talk about this subject is like all our players are spoiled brats who’ll spit their dummy’s out every time they don’t play.

Plus, it’s fair to say all our loanees didnt have the best spells or prove themselves at Championship level: Zaroury not starting in the end, Obafemi didn’t score many, Twine hit by injury, Churlinov didn’t start much, Roberts kept out of the team by a teenager. Only really McNally who has had a full season. I expect they’ll all come back a bit humbled and ready to fight. Or that’s what they should do because their careers might rest on it.

[evensteadiereddie]

An excellent post, NewClaret.

[warksclaret]

Luton definitely gave their fans more hope than we got. We knew we were down very early , Luton ran out of steam . Needless to say relegation happened to both teams but I know which experience I would have wanted

I think if you asked a big group of neutral fans and sensible pundits, who were not supporters of either of Luton or ourselves, as to which team achieved most in in the PL this season, the majority would say Luton.

I have noticed that when talking about Luton, pundits and reporters generally say that they made a fist of it, and gave it a good go. With Burnley it seems to be that there was some improvement but too little too late, and after the season they had last season, under VK they were a major disappointment. I don't think too many of our fans can argue with these comments

[Jakubclaret]

I think if you asked a big group of neutral fans and sensible pundits, who were not supporters of either of Luton or ourselves, as to which team achieved most in in the PL this season, the majority would say Luton.

I have noticed that when talking about Luton, pundits and reporters generally say that they made a fist of it, and gave it a good go. With Burnley it seems to be that there was some improvement but too little too late, and after the season they had last season, under VK they were a major disappointment. I don't think too many of our fans can argue with these comments

Luton's efforts even if it ended in the same disappointment as ours are looked at in a completely different light. The application was night & day to people independent from both clubs. Luton were cast as more the plucky underdogs fighting against all odds nobody expected much from them so every sort of positive result was magnified. Our expectations were far higher & not delivered in any shape or form.

[CrosspoolClarets]

The above is true no doubt, but also true is that we are clear favourites for next season, 7/1 whereas Luton are 10/1.

Just goes to show how much we underperformed this season. I personally think we are flat track bullies - able to crush worse teams but fragile against better teams. So the odds are fair.

[AmbleClaret]

Said it before I've seen the rise of the team of the 70s down to the Orient game and back again but without a shadow of a doubt this ranks as the worst season I've ever seen

Me too,as a season ticket holder from the early '70s. The thing about us in the '80s was that you knew we had some pretty poor players,very poor, but I don't recall many matches where they didn't give their all.
This seasons bunch of overpaid lightweights however......

[evensteadiereddie]

What, all of them?
A few of them?
One or two?

Some names would be helpful.
I've seen players look lightweight because they been outclassed but I've not seen any of our lads who didn't put a shift in.

[Jakubclaret]

What, all of them?
A few of them?
One or two?

Some names would be helpful.
I've seen players look lightweight because they been outclassed but I've not seen any of our lads who didn't put a shift in.

Maybe you've not seen something because you refuse to see it. All season it's been hit & miss game to game & generally it's been a half arsed effort from everybody.

[evensteadiereddie]

Luton's efforts even if it ended in the same disappointment as ours are looked at in a completely different light. The application was night & day to people independent from both clubs. Luton were cast as more the plucky underdogs fighting against all odds nobody expected much from them so every sort of positive result was magnified. Our expectations were far higher & not delivered in any shape or form.

Yet in the final twelve games or so, we rallied to some extent and Luton, the allegedly brave warriors with a never say die attitude, were abysmal.
The media love in will no doubt move on to Ipswich next season.

[Jakubclaret]

Yet in the final twelve games or so, we rallied to some extent and Luton, the allegedly brave warriors with a never say die attitude, were abysmal.
The media love in will no doubt move on to Ipswich next season.

Luton were always going to run out of steam & don't have the quality squad depth. We found a way of drawing instead of outrightly losing if you call that rallying. It shouldn't serve as any consolation to say Luton were abysmal the same applies for Sheffield united. It's like arguing who sh1ts out the best turd.

[SydneyClaret]

This time last year there were plenty of supporters saying they wished we could just reject promotion and stay in the Championship for the very reasons we are discussing. The gulf is to large and those big clubs get everything there own way.

[evensteadiereddie]

Luton were always going to run out of steam & don't have the quality squad depth. We found a way of drawing instead of outrightly losing if you call that rallying. It shouldn't serve as any consolation to say Luton were abysmal the same applies for Sheffield united. It's like arguing who sh1ts out the best turd.

Indeed but you were perpetuating the myth that Luton were the plucky, grafting underdogs not me.

[dougcollins]

Roberts kept out of the team by a teenager. Only really McNally who has had a full season. I expect they’ll all come back a bit humbled and ready to fight. Or that’s what they should do because their careers might rest on it.

Never thought I'd see the words 'Roberts' and 'humbled' linked.

[Jakubclaret]

Indeed but you were perpetuating the myth that Luton were the plucky, grafting underdogs not me.

They was that's how some people perceived them.