Bayern Munich

[KRBFC]

I think you might need therapy to get over VK. Serious.

Why because I like a manager who produced the best season of my lifetime? I’m a Burnley fan, am I supposed to be fickle and now start slagging him off?

[bumba]

Go watch the game and stop boring me to death

Boring was watching your idol manage us last season, as for best season in your lifetime?
Depends what you base it on seen as Dyche got us to 7th and Europe.

I've watched the game, bog standard friendly means nothing. Why wasn't you raving last week when a lower league team held them to a draw? Or when a pub team kept it down to 14 (previously 20+) AND actually scored!!

What I did see was Bayern giving chances away by playing stupid football at the back.

[KRBFC]

Boring was watching your idol manage us last season, as for best season in your lifetime?
Depends what you base it on seen as Dyche got us to 7th and Europe.

I've watched the game, bog standard friendly means nothing. Why wasn't you raving last week when a lower league team held them to a draw? Or when a pub team kept it down to 14 (previously 20+) AND actually scored!!

What I did see was Bayern giving chances away by playing stupid football at the back.

I didn’t watch any other friendly, just saw the Spurs game.
Is there any need for all of this?

You hate Kompany, I like him. I don’t think we need to keep going over it given he’s no longer here. I look forward to you whining about everything BFC for another season.

[CoolClaret]

Why because I like a manager who produced the best season of my lifetime? I’m a Burnley fan, am I supposed to be fickle and now start slagging him off?

Better than a 7th finish in the Prem?

No, just be at least a bit objective about it all - you posted like he's just gone and demolished a title contender in a crunch match. It was a preseason game ffs!

[roperclaret]

Better than a 7th finish in the Prem?

No, just be at least a bit objective about it all - you posted like he's just gone and demolished a title contender in a crunch match. It was a preseason game ffs!

To be fair, the promotion season was way more exciting and enjoyable than the season we finished 7th even though that was more of an achievement

[equinox]

The promotion under Kompany was incredible, just about the perfect season, the only thing that could have made it better was if my son had scored the clincher at Ewood.

[Big Vinny K]

Like the vast majority of Burnley fans I enjoyed the season when we finished 7th in the Premier League AND the one when we finished top of the championship under VK.

In other unsurprising news I also enjoyed all the other seasons we preformed well and not so much those when we didn’t.

And then there’s the seasons when it was a bit of both.

In summary I like it when we win…..sometimes I like it when we draw and often I’m a bit sad when we get beat.

[CoolClaret]

Like the vast majority of Burnley fans I enjoyed the season when we finished 7th in the Premier League AND the one when we finished top of the championship under VK.

In other unsurprising news I also enjoyed all the other seasons we preformed well and not so much those when we didn’t.

And then there’s the seasons when it was a bit of both.

In summary I like it when we win…..sometimes I like it when we draw and often I’m a bit sad when we get beat.

Yep - this should be the default/natural view in all honesty.

[KRBFC]

Better than a 7th finish in the Prem?

No, just be at least a bit objective about it all - you posted like he's just gone and demolished a title contender in a crunch match. It was a preseason game ffs!

I think the Coyle promotion season and VKs first season were my two favourite seasons. Everyone has their own opinion and I’m not going to bother arguing this.

[bumba]

I didn’t watch any other friendly, just saw the Spurs game.
Is there any need for all of this?

You hate Kompany, I like him. I don’t think we need to keep going over it given he’s no longer here. I look forward to you whining about everything BFC for another season.

I don't hate him, I'm grateful for one season which was fantastic but don't like the way he put himself before the club last season.
Any fan with common sense had a whine last season.

[exilecanada]

Bayern Munich have been my favourite European club for years. I subscribe to DAZN who have Canadian broadcast rights to EPL and Bundesliga, so I'll probably catch a few Bayern games to see how VK is handling a team full of super stars with inflated egos. Bayern also have Canadian Alphonso Davies. Personally I think VK will do quite well, but how they do in Champions League will be the acid test. Bayern aren't know for sticking with an under performing coach.

[Quicknick]

TSV 1860 !!!!

[JimmyRobbo]

I wish him well.

Year 1, he was brilliant.
Year 2, he made a lot of mistakes.

I was sad he left. I put his mistakes down to a learning curve as he was a very bright young man.

I wish him well because I don't blame him for leaving.

I'll be interested to see what happens.

[equinox]

A lot of Bayern fans are absolutely furious that they didn't appoint David Moyes after he lifted the European Cup with West Ham.

[clarets1978]

Can we not just all move and give it a rest about Kompany. Its been done over and over again. We have a new man in charge now and its a new season. We should be looking forwad not back!

[IanMcL]

I wish him well.

Year 1, he was brilliant.
Year 2, he made a lot of mistakes.

I was sad he left. I put his mistakes down to a learning curve as he was a very bright young man.

I wish him well because I don't blame him for leaving.

I'll be interested to see what happens.

His unwillingness to compromise his game pattern was his huge weakness and our downfall. Kompany before Burnley.

[equinox]

Can we not just all move and give it a rest about Kompany. Its been done over and over again. We have a new man in charge now and its a new season. We should be looking forwad not back!

Maybe football forums or perhaps the Internet in general isn't for you?

[Spijed]

Let's face it, the Bundesliga is like the SPL, take out the top few clubs and the rest of the league is far far weaker than the PL.

[clarets1978]

Maybe football forums or perhaps the Internet in general isn't for you?

Or maybe a bit of positive thinking is needed instead of going over played out old ground for weeks and weeks on end that is over and done with? Do you not agree we should move on then or are you just happy to fester in the past? We've a new season with a new manager and ideas to look forward to. The Kompany era is over

[ecc]

Maybe football forums or perhaps the Internet in general isn't for you?

True to form.

[equinox]

True to form.

Cheers,

[ecc]

No problem.

[Bullabill]

Or maybe a bit of positive thinking is needed instead of going over played out old ground for weeks and weeks on end that is over and done with? Do you not agree we should move on then or are you just happy to fester in the past? We've a new season with a new manager and ideas to look forward to. The Kompany era is over

I don't know a lot about the internet and football forums, but I've found on this one that you don't have to read all of every post and get yourself all worked up. You can just pass and leave others to their discussions.

[clarets1978]

I don't know a lot about the internet and football forums, but I've found on this one that you don't have to read all of every post and get yourself all worked up. You can just pass and leave others to their discussions.

Just feel like people should looking forward not back now. The man has gone now and we still talking about where he went wrong. This is most exciting time of the season, new manager, new ideas, how we are going to play, who is going to get games now etc. I get that I can just pass but I can also express an opinion as is my right, just as you could have passed on what i said

[equinox]

Wolfsburg 0 - 1 Bayern Munich.

Musiala 20 mins.

[lovebeingaclaret]

Wolfsburg have just equalised 1-1

[Wo Didi]

2-1 To Wolfsburg

[123EasyasBFC]

Do people not realise we receive more money in compensation if Bayern win the league

[tarkys_ears]

Who cares?

It's not going to me or on players

[Rick_Muller]

Do people not realise we receive more money in compensation if Bayern win the league

Couldn’t care less right now. To see megamind fall on his sword would be great

[Wo Didi]

2-2 own goal.

[Wo Didi]

3-2 Bayern, Thomas Muller has made a big difference since coming on.

[ceborame]

That's the worst they'll play all season

[evensteadiereddie]

Cracking win for VK and his boys

[Corway]

Do people not realise we receive more money in compensation if Bayern win the league

No I didn’t 123 do you know how that is structured eg Champions league Cup

[equinox]

Breaking records left, right and center...

[MT03ALG]

I am in Germany now. German TV etc. is beginning to love Kompany now that he has won his first five games. He obviously understands German, speaks German quite well and interviews quite well. It is not known how much he swears in the changing room or whether he curses in English or German. It will be interesting to see the Bayern results at home to Leverkusen and away to Villa late September/early October.

[IanMcL]

Breaking records left, right and center...

Centre

[equinox]

Centre

My choice.

[Quicknick]

That's the worst they'll play all season

Haha! Good one.

[bfcjg]

He left us in a right old mess,but he won the league at Deadwood, we had an amazing season, and as he like all managers is a mercenary who wouldn't choose Bayern over us. Purely for financial reasons I want him to succeed.

[IanMcL]

My choice.

To spell incorrectly? Of course. Just trying to assist.

[bumba]

Don't know how reliable 'kicker' is but according to them there is unrest brewing in the Bayern dressing room due to Kompanys bizarre way of communicating.
Bubble may burst shortly.

[Quicknick]

Why because I like a manager who produced the best season of my lifetime? I’m a Burnley fan, am I supposed to be fickle and now start slagging him off?

Followed by the worst when there was no need for it.

[evensteadiereddie]

Don't know how reliable 'kicker' is but according to them there is unrest brewing in the Bayern dressing room due to Kompanys bizarre way of communicating.
Bubble may burst shortly.

Your wishful thinking, I suspect.

[Colburn_Claret]

Don't know how reliable 'kicker' is but according to them there is unrest brewing in the Bayern dressing room due to Kompanys bizarre way of communicating.
Bubble may burst shortly.

I read the same on goal.com. Again not sure how reliable it is.

I fully expect the bubble to burst, but thought it would take a run of bad results to bring it to the fore. If there is unrest already God help him with what's to come.

M2B showed that his man management was awful. He got away with it because we had the youngest squad in the league, last season. A team of seasoned vets, and probably prima donnas, aren't going to take it lying down.

I'll always look on that first season of VKS as one of the highlights of 60 years following the Clarets, but it doesn't blind me to the disaster he oversaw last season. Unless someone can get him to sit down and listen to criticism he won't get far in management. Despite the height he's reached now, it's going to be a very short career.

[Quicknick]

Your wishful thinking, I suspect.

I hope it does.

[bobinho]

Couldn’t care less right now. To see megamind fall on his sword would be great

I don’t think he’s the sort to fall on his sword…. His ego won’t let him.

I think when you first meet him, listen to him and see him smile and engage with people, you are drawn in. Then I think as you get to watch him and listen to him deal with people, you realise he’s not as nice nor as bright as you thought he was. Bright people don’t try to ‘manage’ others and motivate them like he tried with JBG. Bullies do that.

Responsible for bringing some of the prettiest football I’ve seen us play. Winning the league at deadwood is the stuff dreams are made of. But in all honesty, I’m happier with Scott Parker at the helm.

[NewClaret]

I read the same on goal.com. Again not sure how reliable it is.

I fully expect the bubble to burst, but thought it would take a run of bad results to bring it to the fore. If there is unrest already God help him with what's to come.

M2B showed that his man management was awful. He got away with it because we had the youngest squad in the league, last season. A team of seasoned vets, and probably prima donnas, aren't going to take it lying down.

I'll always look on that first season of VKS as one of the highlights of 60 years following the Clarets, but it doesn't blind me to the disaster he oversaw last season. Unless someone can get him to sit down and listen to criticism he won't get far in management. Despite the height he's reached now, it's going to be a very short career.

I think he’ll go on to have an excellent career in management. I dare say better than Dyche who did a great job for us - my point being that how well you do here isn’t necessarily going to be relevant to the rest of your career.

It’s quite a simple equation, really: with players that are better than the others in the league, Kompany’s system works very well. That’s why he won the Championship at a canter and will win the Bundesliga in my opinion, or be there or thereabouts anyway.

Our issue last season was he was trying champagne football with beer money (£100m is a pittance in the premier league), but even then I’d say he started to get it right after Christmas when he’d signed Assignon and Esteve and, crucially in my view, brought back Muric. We probably still weren’t quite there but my point is I think we’d have got there eventually playing that style, even with our budget - so I’m not convinced it’s impossible.

He’s guilty for spending wastefully, some poor selection decisions and not evolving his style until we strengthened in January. But I think don’t think any of these failings will be relevant now because he’s at a huge club who’ll always have the resources and experience to play his style.

I want him to be a success as I think every Burnley fan should. Mainly because it’ll mean up to an extra £5m for us and we might end up really, really needing it. But also because it will act as a great proof point to other young managers how Burnley can springboard your career, in the same way that I want Dyche to be successful (just not Everton )

On his man management, didn’t Lyle say how he owed Kompany his life and generally wax lyrical about him? We’ve also had several rumours of players wanting to leave that I may or may not be linked to Kompany leaving. I’m not sure we can conclude that his man management was poor. His language definitely was though.

[ClaretPete001]

I wish him well.

Year 1, he was brilliant.
Year 2, he made a lot of mistakes.

I was sad he left. I put his mistakes down to a learning curve as he was a very bright young man.

I wish him well because I don't blame him for leaving.

I'll be interested to see what happens.

Not mistakes it was ideological folly.

It will be interesting to see how he does just as it would be interesting to see how Pep would do if he had to manage Barnsley or Rotherham United.

Ultimately, his approach was inexplicable given the players he had and to write it off as a mistake or a learning process is clearly not true.

Ultimately, the tens of millions available to parachute clubs is a big factor in the success of relegated PL clubs. Scott Parker will likely achieve a third promotion with a relegated club but whether that infers managerial talent or simply reflects an Economic reality is equally as true in his situation as the spending power of elite clubs in Pep’s situation.

As Ancelotti proved with some very erratic signings at Everton perhaps elite managers talent lies not in management but in elite management in which case VK may well be a success.

He would have to change considerably to be able to do what a Ternent or Dyche did at Burnley.

Ideological dogma is not in the gift of managers who have to create a greater sum than the individual parts they have at their disposal.