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Re: Man City

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:09 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:11 pm
Cheers for that link Vegas, really useful.

I didn’t know about the ‘loss of a chance’ law which I think further strengthens the possibility we’ll be awarded compensation.
Yep not something I'd heard of either tbh

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Re: Man City

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:52 am

Why is this not being reported on BBC etc

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Re: Man City

Post by NewClaret » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:07 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:52 am
Why is this not being reported on BBC etc
I think the report was from the Times that majored on the City case/claims, but briefly mentioned ours vs Everton was ongoing, that the guys in Vegas’ links are all discussing and speculating about.

I don’t think the BBC necessarily pick up on all Times reports or regurgitate speculation from ‘experts’ on the radio. Guess they need their own sources and solid facts to report on stories, which are probably few and far between in complex, confidential legal disputes.

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Re: Man City

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:42 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:07 pm
I think the report was from the Times that majored on the City case/claims, but briefly mentioned ours vs Everton was ongoing, that the guys in Vegas’ links are all discussing and speculating about.

I don’t think the BBC necessarily pick up on all Times reports or regurgitate speculation from ‘experts’ on the radio. Guess they need their own sources and solid facts to report on stories, which are probably few and far between in complex, confidential legal disputes.
Thanks. I would have thought that what is being reported on here would be a huge headline making story. Maybe I am missing something

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Re: Man City

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:17 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:52 am
Why is this not being reported on BBC etc
The BBC and Sky are often days behind

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Re: Man City

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:47 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:52 am
Why is this not being reported on BBC etc
As NewClaret says it all emanates from an article in The Times last week which I linked on the MMT last Friday - all discussions, particularly on Stefan Borson and Talksport, since have been based on that one report.

It is really only a case of Martin Zeigler been given the information and of course the Manchester City element is the bigger story

this is what I posted on the MMT and to be fair not many read it there
Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:59 pm
I must say I am surprised that this report hasn't made it onto the board given how much it reveals about Burnley FC's ongoing compensation claim against Everton

from the Times

Why rivals’ Man City compensation claims could take years
Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur have lodged legal notices reserving the right to make claims if City are found guilty – but the process could drag on

https://archive.ph/2NV6z

the key comments being

"For example, Burnley are still involved in a compensation claim against Everton relating to the Merseyside club’s six-point deduction for breaking Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) in the 2021-22 season. The first judgment in the Everton case was in November 2023 and sources with knowledge of the process said it could be another full year before there is an outcome.

.....In the Everton PSR case, five clubs initially applied for potential compensation — Burnley, Leeds United, Leicester City, Nottingham Forest and Southampton. When Everton’s points deduction was reduced from ten to six after an appeal, it meant that only Burnley would have avoided relegation had the sanction been applied in the 2021-22 season — when the transgression took place — so the other clubs withdrew their applications.

However, the same commission that imposed a ten-point deduction on Everton is also deciding on the compensation for financial damages connected to the case, with its chairman, David Phillips KC, saying: “I am satisfied that the applicant clubs have potential claims for compensation.”

Everton initially challenged that position given that their ten-point sanction was reduced by a different commission, and there are still many legal arguments in the case, including over the sum Burnley would be entitled to in damages."


I agree with Stefan Borson on this

"Interesting to see confirmation that only Burnley’s case v Everton has survived with other clubs presumably not confident they could make out causation on alleged losses."
https://x.com/slbsn/status/1857128224557277519
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