I am sick of us not conceding.

[mikeS]

It's the madhouse of the playoffs for us unless the team score more and win more that Leeds and SheffU.

[Colburn_Claret]

Not conceding goals is one of the ways you win games because even 1 goal gets you the win
If you don’t score not conceding gets you the point that conceding would have taken away

If you haven't worked out that draws are no good for us you need to wake up.
Having our defensive record, only losing 2 games all season, and yet still be so far behind the top 2, is testament to the damage settling for a point brings you.

We weren't as good as recent yesterday, but a lot better than the dark days of Derby and Stoke, but we still needed to up it. We looked like we needed to make changes, and we didn't.

If all these draws were 1-1 or 2-2, instead of with a clean sheet, people would stop being blinded by the 'record', and realise we are dropping 2 pts instead.

[deanothedino]

It’s not about not conceding, it’s about Parker actually going for it.

93rd minute today we had 6 players in our own half with Esteve and Egan Riley passing to each other 5 times in 20 seconds. It’s about system, Leeds would have had 8 players in the opposition half with probably 4 of them in the opposition box.

I watched the last ten minutes very closely today and nothing changed at all, same system, same tempo, just hoping Preston made a mistake

Same system that brought us more than enough clear cut chances to win if we had players who could finish.

Preston were offering a bit of pressure late on, more than Leeds did at the Turf.

[BleedingClaret]

If you haven't worked out that draws are no good for us you need to wake up.
Having our defensive record, only losing 2 games all season, and yet still be so far behind the top 2, is testament to the damage settling for a point brings you.

We weren't as good as recent yesterday, but a lot better than the dark days of Derby and Stoke, but we still needed to up it. We looked like we needed to make changes, and we didn't.

If all these draws were 1-1 or 2-2, instead of with a clean sheet, people would stop being blinded by the 'record', and realise we are dropping 2 pts instead.

Only read your first line
I’ll read the rest
I’ve been saying 46 0.0’s would have got you relegated last year as Brum went down with 50 points so draws are no good in the quest for Automatic promotion
Not conceding is not the problem is all I’m saying
I don’t think we’re even over defending we were just not using our possession in a progressive enough way, now we’re better but we’re not taking our chances

[dougcollins]

Same system that brought us more than enough clear cut chances to win if we had players who could finish.

Preston were offering a bit of pressure late on, more than Leeds did at the Turf.

Leeds only had to play out a draw in that one game.

They beat everyone else.

[BleedingClaret]

If you haven't worked out that draws are no good for us you need to wake up.
Having our defensive record, only losing 2 games all season, and yet still be so far behind the top 2, is testament to the damage settling for a point brings you.

We weren't as good as recent yesterday, but a lot better than the dark days of Derby and Stoke, but we still needed to up it. We looked like we needed to make changes, and we didn't.

If all these draws were 1-1 or 2-2, instead of with a clean sheet, people would stop being blinded by the 'record', and realise we are dropping 2 pts instead.

Agreed on the subs
Earlier would have been better
2 up top was an option
Shelvey for Laurent with 15 to go accepting Shelvey wouldn’t have Laurent legs but may have unlocked a few doors

[BleedingClaret]

Thanks Scott.
Ps- Any other season that might be fine, this year I don't think so.

I’m aware that we need to score goals and win games but it doesn’t change the fact that not conceding goals is the cornerstone to this.
A couple of months back we were so negative with possession, Stoke and Derby games as prime examples that we actually were risking those teams getting late winners that we were creating for them.
We are now a lot better but are too ponderous in the final 3rd and are simple not taking the chances that we are creating.
Keeping a clean sheet is not the reason for this, we are now not over defending we’re just not good enough at attacking.
Letting 2 in wouldn’t win us a game 3.2 it would likely see us beaten.
We do need earlier subs
Positive substitution not like for like and going 2 up top for at least the last 20 plus added.
Our clean sheets mean 1 scruffy goal off someone arse would be worth 3 points

[Ric_C]

I've just done a quick (favourable) tally of our points in our remaining games and I get us finishing on 96 points. 9 wins and 4 draws.

In theory we could lose only 2 games all season and not concede another goal for the rest of the season and STILL not finish in the top 2. Which is absolutely bonkers.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I've just done a quick (favourable) tally of our points in our remaining games and I get us finishing on 96 points. 9 wins and 4 draws.

In theory we could lose only 2 games all season and not concede another goal for the rest of the season and STILL not finish in the top 2. Which is absolutely bonkers.

So for clarity you think we are going to increase our win percentage by 50% over the next 13 games

[agreenwood]

So for clarity you think we are going to increase our win percentage by 50% over the next 13 games

For clarity, are you suggesting it isn’t possible?

We’ve won 8 and drawn 5 of the last 13 league games (arguably against stronger opposition), so you what’s so odd about it?

[Goody1975]

We have drawn 11 games this season 0-0, some of these we have settled on the result with 15-20 minutes left rather than rolling the dice.

11 draws is 11 points, trying to win the games while risking losing and a return of just 3 wins, 5 draws and 3 losses is 14 points.

We can't turn back the clock but I feel at the end of the season, we will wish we had taken the opportunity to go for it in these games, especially at home and think what could've been.

Three points for a win was implemented in 1981 to encourage teams to win games, win one and lose one is better than two draws.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

We have drawn 11 games this season 0-0, some of these we have settled on the result with 15-20 minutes left rather than rolling the dice.

11 draws is 11 points, trying to win the games while risking losing and a return of just 3 wins, 5 draws and 3 losses is 14 points.

We can't turn back the clock but I feel at the end of the season, we will wish we had taken the opportunity to go for it in these games, especially at home and think what could've been.

Three points for a win was implemented in 1981 to encourage teams to win games, win one and lose one is better than two draws.

Keep saying the longer the clean sheet record has gone on the more it has become a ‘noose around our necks’ . Tactics will have to change in the run in

[Newcastleclaret93]

For clarity, are you suggesting it isn’t possible?

We’ve won 8 and drawn 5 of the last 13 league games (arguably against stronger opposition), so you what’s so odd about it?

We have won 7 and drawn 6. 27 points.
Stats suggest that we will not dramatically increase our number of wins. Specifically because we have failed to score in 42% of our fixtures this season. That means we will likely not increase our win ratio to the required level.

In that time Leeds have won 9 and drawn 4. 31 points
In that time Sheffield have won 9 and drawn 2. 29 points

We are now a minimum of four points behind them and as the last 13 games have shown they are winning more games and gaining more points. For us to close the gap and get above them in the next 13 games we would have to effectively win nearly every game.

So yes we won’t do that and will end up in the play offs

[dandeclaret]

It’s amazing that football isn’t just straight line extrapolation, particularly as the pressure of promotion challenges begin to kick in.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

It’s amazing that football isn’t just straight line extrapolation, particularly as the pressure of promotion challenges begin to kick in.

Indeed including the pressure on ourselves to start scoring and win games.

[dandeclaret]

Will be interesting to see how teams handle the pressure. I couldn’t make any big claims right here and now, other than to say, there’s still 4 teams in it, and a couple of them Are likely to have a spell
of results that are surprising before now And may.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Will be interesting to see how teams handle the pressure. I couldn’t make any big claims right here and now, other than to say, there’s still 4 teams in it, and a couple of them Are likely to have a spell
of results that are surprising before now And may.

Agree I just worry about our lack of goals but hopefully this will change!

[dandeclaret]

I appreciate this will read ridiculous to some….. I’m
More relaxed now that they’re creating and
Missing big chances, rather than early season where they weren’t creating much.

[Spijed]

Will be interesting to see how teams handle the pressure.

And non more so than last season where Leeds had taken 47 out of 51 points going into the last 6 games.

Then for whatever reason took just 4 points from the last 6.

[Spijed]

Last year only Ipswich didn't drop points at an alarming rate.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Will be interesting to see how teams handle the pressure. I couldn’t make any big claims right here and now, other than to say, there’s still 4 teams in it, and a couple of them Are likely to have a spell
of results that are surprising before now And may.

I think Leeds in particular will go through a sticky spell. (I actually think if we are going to catch anyone it’s them, because they have a similar issue to us in that they draw too many games).

I just don’t think they will lose/draw enough between now and then.

If Parker gets us up automatic from here then he deserves all the praise

[dsr]

I think Leeds in particular will go through a sticky spell. (I actually think if we are going to catch anyone it’s them, because they have a similar issue to us in that they draw too many games).

I just don’t think they will lose/draw enough between now and then.

If Parker gets us up automatic from here then he deserves all the praise

Leeds' last ten games have seen 7 wins, 3 draws, 25 goals scored, 4 conceded.
Burnley's last ten games have seen 4 wins, 6 draws, 9 scored, 0 conceded.

I don't think they're all that similar!