Trafford Egan Riley and Esteve end of season values?

[Stacks]

Not convinced by that, I don’t see us paying the £13m option to keep Humphreys if we don’t go up.

We’d be losing, Trafford, Roberts, Brownhill, CJ, Esteve, Shelvey, Edwards, Anthony, Humphreys, Barnes.

Not sure on the situation with Flemming but if we can’t get automatically promoted with this current group it’s wishful thinking to assume we would with a considerably weaker lot.

Ash on a one year if we stay in EFL?

[IanMcL]

Trafford hasn't actually done anything. About 20 shots. His 2 pens being the exception, which standard him in good stead. His work with crosses is not great.

Just keep talking him up and saying how HE has kept all the clean sherts and he will be worth a fortune.

Esteve and Egan-Riley
Esteve £40m Egan-Riley out of contract. £10m for being young?

[KRBFC]

Trafford hasn't actually done anything. His work with crosses is not great.

lol

As for crosses, he’s improved a ton on that aspect, I think it’s largely because we’re considerably better set up defensively at set pieces under Parker.

But not done anything? That’s just utterly ridiculous to say, even for a biased Trafford hater like yourself.

[GetIntoEm]

Always one ain't there. I'd imagine all 20 premier league clubs would bite your hand off to take him at the right price

[what now !]

i am sure there will be discussions with Egan Riley about a new contract but if not i would expect in the region of £10 million at a tribunal

Esteve probably £40 mil that's what Everton reportedly offered in the last window so maybe a touch more and Trafford about the same

i was surprised we got £42mil for Oderbert i didn't think he was worth that much yet spurs paid it so who knows what price we might get , granted these are defenders and a keeper but still , plus Pace wont let them go on the cheap , look at the business he did last summer i think we got the maximum we could have wished for for the ones that left we certainly had Ipswich over with Muric and O'Shea

as for can we compete next season if we don't go up, why not ? i certainly dont expect us to do a Luton that's for sure, anyway the question we should be asking is can we be more competitive if we go up ?

[Walton]

I wouldn't be using the compensation for Danny Ings as a yardstick for Egan-Riley.

Ings joined from a League One club, played well over a hundred games for us, his goals got us promoted to the PL and then had a quite successful year there. His development over that period was huge, and it's the development you get compensation for.

Egan-Riley joined from the recent era's most successful club, had played in the Champions League, didn't play for us for two years, had a few loans out and has now played 30ish games for us.

We would be looking in the hundreds of thousands region for compensation for his development rather than anything else, if that.

Saying that, I'd be amazed if he didn't sign a new contract shortly.

[boyyanno]

CJ will be gone if we don't go up. Apparently discussions have been held and he's waiting to see which division we will be in, but I don't think his demands will be small.

As for what they're worth:

If Esteve goes for anything less than 35m+ someone has had our pants down.

[boyyanno]

Trafford hasn't actually done anything. About 20 shots. His 2 pens being the exception, which standard him in good stead. His work with crosses is not great.

Just keep talking him up and saying how HE has kept all the clean sherts and he will be worth a fortune.

Esteve and Egan-Riley
Esteve £40m Egan-Riley out of contract. £10m for being young?

Disagree with this. I think Trafford has done what a lot of very good keepers do which is make one or two very crucial saves in games to keep us in them.

He's not tested loads but he's come up with the goods this year when he has been imo.

[IanMcL]

Disagree with this. I think Trafford has done what a lot of very good keepers do which is make one or two very crucial saves in games to keep us in them.

He's not tested loads but he's come up with the goods this year when he has been imo.

I wouldn't disagree with that either. Crosses are the weak spot.

[IanMcL]

lol

As for crosses, he’s improved a ton on that aspect, I think it’s largely because we’re considerably better set up defensively at set pieces under Parker.

But not done anything? That’s just utterly ridiculous to say, even for a biased Trafford hater like yourself.

20 shots over a dozen games is actually nothing, when the thread is about the end of season value of a player.

[boatshed bill]

20 shots over a dozen games is actually nothing, when the thread is about the end of season value of a player.

It rather depends on the quality of the shots faced, doesn't it?

[KRBFC]

plus Pace wont let them go on the cheap , look at the business he did last summer i think we got the maximum we could have wished for for the ones that left we certainly had Ipswich over with Muric and O'Shea

Good point actually, I think Pace has shown signs of being a tougher negotiator (typically when selling players) as time has gone on. Whilst we probably let Mcneil, Pope and Collins go too cheaply, I think he's learnt from that and I can't argue with the value he got for the bunch who left in the last summer window.

[KRBFC]

20 shots over a dozen games is actually nothing, when the thread is about the end of season value of a player.

I'm not talking about just shots faced though, in the big moments when we're under the pump he's pulled massive saves out the bag or picked a cross to relieve the pressure. Elland road springs to mind, a fantastic 1v1 save in the first half, second half he caught a few big crosses. Pompey away recently, an enormous double save to save us late on. The penalty saves against Sunderland.

How many goals have we conceded from corners this season? he's been considerably more dominant of his penalty area and I don't feel like we're going to concede every time the opposition gets a corner. Now that's not just down to Trafford but Parker and the team for the entire setup.

How many big errors has he made? I cant think of one.

[Commy]

I'm not talking about just shots faced though, in the big moments when we're under the pump he's pulled massive saves out the bag or picked a cross to relieve the pressure. Elland road springs to mind, a fantastic 1v1 save in the first half, second half he caught a few big crosses. Pompey away recently, an enormous double save to save us late on. The penalty saves against Sunderland.

How many goals have we conceded from corners this season? he's been considerably more dominant of his penalty area and I don't feel like we're going to concede every time the opposition gets a corner. Now that's not just down to Trafford but Parker and the team for the entire setup.

How many big errors has he made? I cant think of one.

He hasn't made any errors resulting in goals and, although I might be wrong, I think we have only let one goal in from a set piece.

[ClaretPete001]

Trafford was terrible last season but he has been top drawer this season. We were terrible defensively last season but excellent this...!

How that affects his price I don't know. It may bother some that he didn't perform in the PL but others might think he is maturing into a top keeper.

I think the football world rates him hence his England call ups so you would think PL clubs will be watching him with a good deal of interest.

[wilks_bfc]

Not sure if “Trafford hasn’t done anything” & “one faced 20 shots” was a fishing trip but I’ll bite

[bodge]

Last goal we conceded was a set piece goal against Watford, even that came about from a spawny ricochet.

[IanMcL]

I'm not talking about just shots faced though, in the big moments when we're under the pump he's pulled massive saves out the bag or picked a cross to relieve the pressure. Elland road springs to mind, a fantastic 1v1 save in the first half, second half he caught a few big crosses. Pompey away recently, an enormous double save to save us late on. The penalty saves against Sunderland.

How many goals have we conceded from corners this season? he's been considerably more dominant of his penalty area and I don't feel like we're going to concede every time the opposition gets a corner. Now that's not just down to Trafford but Parker and the team for the entire setup.

How many big errors has he made? I cant think of one.

Apart from crosses, which are still not great, I agree!

The only point I am trying to make is that the defence has blocked just about everything, so hard to judge on 20 odd shots, since our no goals session. Your points above are valid. Just about the 'value' question being determined.

[IanMcL]

It rather depends on the quality of the shots faced, doesn't it?

Mostly straightforward. The 1 on 1s and the pens being the real exceptions apart from a couple of cases where he made excellent saves.

The point I am trying to make is only about determining 'value' at the end of the season, if his activity is minimal, thanks to a lock tight defence.

[dandeclaret]

Mostly straightforward. The 1 on 1s and the pens being the real exceptions apart from a couple of cases where he made excellent saves.

The point I am trying to make is only about determining 'value' at the end of the season, if his activity is minimal, thanks to a lock tight defence.

The stats are above, he's clearly not had minimal to do. He's saved 9.61 goals - that will put him very high on any keepers anywhere in the country.

[IanMcL]

The stats are above, he's clearly not had minimal to do. He's saved 9.61 goals - that will put him very high on any keepers anywhere in the country.

Agreed. My original point, whenever far back it was, related only to the 20 odd shots faced since December. He saved more when we're 'getting going', those pens and 1 on 1s being the exceptions.

[BurnleyFC]

Esteve will probably chuck in a transfer request if he’s asked to play alongside Worrall again.

[No Ney Never]

Trafford will go to Newcastle United as a replacement/upgrade for an injury prone and no good with his feet Pope. I just hope they don't get him on the cheap like they did Pope, still can't believe they got him for only 10m.