Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Got a feeling that Cornet will stay. While no one wants to play in the championship, VK and a new style of play/players might want him to stick around, at least for a year.
I don't think Chelsea is really that interested in him.

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Seems a bit weird that we were all in for a striker, Cornet has come back to training, the striker deal has fallen apart and we've not been linked with anyone else?

Maybe VK's has a sit down with him.

[joey13]

Gordon from Everton been linked with a £35m move to Newcastle after half of a good season. Yet people will accept £10m-£15m for McNeil, very unusual

Gordon can use both feet,is younger and has better stats for last season , this explains the difference.

[RVclaret]

Seems a bit weird that we were all in for a striker, Cornet has come back to training, the striker deal has fallen apart and we've not been linked with anyone else?

Maybe VK's has a sit down with him.

Cornet surely had to return to training otherwise he would have been fined?

[Jakubs Tash]

Whether VK can talk Cornet into staying or not is a tad irrelevant due to his release clause. If someone comes sniffing there is no negotiating to be done - the price is already set. It's only £17.5m and if this is met, no matter how late in the window, then he will be off.

[AshevilleNCClaret]

Seems a bit weird that we were all in for a striker, Cornet has come back to training, the striker deal has fallen apart and we've not been linked with anyone else?

Maybe VK's has a sit down with him.

Maybe.... I think out of all of our players, Cornet will probably benefit the most with our new manager/style. Honestly, I think he can score 20 at this level. Would like another striker to be brought it, for as much as I like barnes and jay rod, they don't have much left in the tank.

[Jakubs Tash]

Gordon can use both feet,is younger and has better stats for last season , this explains the difference.

I would think Gordon used his left foot as many times as McNeil used his right foot.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Cornet surely had to return to training otherwise he would have been fined?

That's not really the point I am making at all.

I am saying that Cornet's return to training might have been the first chance VK has had to speak to him.

Perhaps there is a lot more optimism that he is staying than there was before he had spoken to him.

[distortiondave]

I've asked this before I think, but what's the expiry of the 17.5m release clause? This transfer window only, or until we are promoted, or until MC signs a new deal sans clause?

[joey13]

Maybe.... I think out of all of our players, Cornet will probably benefit the most with our new manager/style. Honestly, I think he can score 20 at this level. Would like another striker to be brought it, for as much as I like barnes and jay rod, they don't have much left in the tank.

Cornet is not a striker .

[ClaretMov]

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[randomclaret2]

Gordon can use both feet,is younger and has better stats for last season , this explains the difference.

He's certainly a better diver than McNeil and that's a highly prized skill in the Premier League

[RVclaret]

That's not really the point I am making at all.

I am saying that Cornet's return to training might have been the first chance VK has had to speak to him.

Perhaps there is a lot more optimism that he is staying than there was before he had spoken to him.

Ah got it… fair point - I did see an Athletic article yesterday saying the club do expect to lose him, that there have been clubs in contact, yet at the same time hope to try and convince him to stay under the new project.

[Bullabill]

Whether VK can talk Cornet into staying or not is a tad irrelevant due to his release clause. If someone comes sniffing there is no negotiating to be done - the price is already set. It's only £17.5m and if this is met, no matter how late in the window, then he will be off.

Not so. If the release clause is met the player still has to agree to go. If he decides to stay he could stay.

[AshevilleNCClaret]

Not so. If the release clause is met the player still has to agree to go. If he decides to stay he could stay.

The big thing for me is that he is in training now. sure, he could be gone tomorrow, but at this point it doesn't look like he is forcing a move, unlike other players in the past.

[Quickenthetempo]

If a big club comes in he Cornet will be off, and although it's only small, It's only the bigger clubs splashing that kind of money about at the minute.

But Cornet loves it here, he loves the fans attention he gets here. And the new lad Bastien looks a similar character to Cornet so will probably suit him down to the ground.
As well as better football and system for him (not having to chase back 30 yards as soon as we lose the ball) there are signs to me that he could well stay.

[bumba]

Not so. If the release clause is met the player still has to agree to go. If he decides to stay he could stay.

As much as I like what Pace is doing if the release clause is met he'd be packing Cornets locker himself!

[Tricky Trevor]

For all the talk on the previous page re:WW returning I didn’t see the comment that covers his situation. If, as hoped, we are promoted he is nowhere near PL level. As his attitude is atrocious I hope we never see him again.

[Jakubs Tash]

Not so. If the release clause is met the player still has to agree to go. If he decides to stay he could stay.

Technically you are correct but the chances of that scenario playing out are extremely thin.

[spt_claret]

Cornet is not a striker .

He's not a winger or fullback either though. To me he's closer to a striker, arguably a trequartista/deep forward. I'd like to see him off the shoulder of a striker slightly to the right, coming in to use his left. Similar to Del Piero but on the other side, or a Dries Mertens. Or with his clever movement a Thomas Muller type role making unorthodox runs in and around the box.

I hope he stays. He's an unusual player but with bags of quality who if we can figure him out will be superb- he did very well last year even being bounced between roles and positions.

[RVclaret]

He's not a winger or fullback either though. To me he's closer to a striker, arguably a trequartista/deep forward. I'd like to see him off the shoulder of a striker slightly to the right, coming in to use his left. Similar to Del Piero but on the other side, or a Dries Mertens. Or with his clever movement a Thomas Muller type role making unorthodox runs in and around the box.

I hope he stays. He's an unusual player but with bags of quality who if we can figure him out will be superb- he did very well last year even being bounced between roles and positions.

Agree with this. Would undoubtedly benefit from a more fluid system too with the likes of Twine / McNeil threading balls through on the deck.

[elwaclaret]

Cornet is not a striker. You could make the argument for a number withdrawn 10. For me he’s best suited on the left overloading/unbalancing the defence by his late arrival in the box… I suspect if he stays he will continue to switch right/left with Dwight (if both stay) or similar.

[IanMcL]

Whether VK can talk Cornet into staying or not is a tad irrelevant due to his release clause. If someone comes sniffing there is no negotiating to be done - the price is already set. It's only £17.5m and if this is met, no matter how late in the window, then he will be off.

Only if he wishes!
The clause is a 2 way thing. If either side wishes to enact (following offer received). Nonetheless, if he doesn't want to play for that club or leave Burnley, he can say no.

[IWOODLOVETT]

We have 7 (realistically 6) games before the transfer window slams shut.

Therefore, as most business is carried out in the last days, it quite likely that some or all of our “at risk” players I.e. McNeil, Collins, Roberts, Cornet and Brownhill, could feature in the tricky opening games.

This will allow some of the young guns to be introduced gradually - rather than crash, bang, wallop against Huddersfield.

In my opinion this should be the plan as, although there is an element of risk from injury, it would allow the club to hold out for the best eleventh hour bids for our prized assets.

[Suntan]

Cornet surely had to return to training otherwise he would have been fined?

Cornet is more than happy to stay, he hasn't asked to leave. He likes the club and the group.

Although he accepts its not really in his hands as another club could meet his release clause and he knows Burnley would want him to accept the deal as they want the funds.

[summitclaret]

Max needs to play in a front 3 (like Chelsea do) on the right or left of a central striker. With Dwight on the other side. Both need to be freed up from chasing back.

[Suntan]

If a big club comes in he Cornet will be off, and although it's only small, It's only the bigger clubs splashing that kind of money about at the minute.

But Cornet loves it here, he loves the fans attention he gets here. And the new lad Bastien looks a similar character to Cornet so will probably suit him down to the ground.
As well as better football and system for him (not having to chase back 30 yards as soon as we lose the ball) there are signs to me that he could well stay.

This is spot on!

[NewClaret]

We have 7 (realistically 6) games before the transfer window slams shut.

Therefore, as most business is carried out in the last days, it quite likely that some or all of our “at risk” players I.e. McNeil, Collins, Roberts, Cornet and Brownhill, could feature in the tricky opening games.

This will allow some of the young guns to be introduced gradually - rather than crash, bang, wallop against Huddersfield.

In my opinion this should be the plan as, although there is an element of risk from injury, it would allow the club to hold out for the best eleventh hour bids for our prized assets.

Not only that, but a good start could be critical come the end of the season, particularly given the tough opening games. Get them out of the way and a good start, then an easier run with a potentially less experienced squad might be a bit easier to absorb.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If we can sign the lad from Rotherham and Ohare then only let go of Cornet our midfield will be in a truly great spot.

It would just be up top where we need someone.

[ClaretMov]

Chelsea are not interested in Burnley winger Maxwell Cornet despite reports suggesting a move was in the offing (The Athletic)

[Vegas Claret]

funny thing about Max (who I don't think is remotely good enough for Chelsea) is he scored more goals than 100 million Lukaku did !

[PremierLeagueClass]

We have 7 (realistically 6) games before the transfer window slams shut.

Never knew Jim White was a Burnley fan!

[NewClaret]

If we can sign the lad from Rotherham and Ohare then only let go of Cornet our midfield will be in a truly great spot.

It would just be up top where we need someone.

Do you rate Wiles & Ohare so highly?

Worry for me with being linked to so many midfielders is that neither really strike me as PL midfielders, should we go up! Appreciating that’s not something we need to immediately concern ourselves with.

[Spijed]

If we can sign the lad from Rotherham and Ohare then only let go of Cornet our midfield will be in a truly great spot.

Tbf, no-one has a clue as to whether any of our new signings are good enough to step up to the Championship.

It's certainly exciting, but a leap into the unknown as well.

[Vino blanco]

Do you rate Wiles & Ohare so highly?

Worry for me with being linked to so many midfielders is that neither really strike me as PL midfielders, should we go up! Appreciating that’s not something we need to immediately concern ourselves with.

In my opinion Westwood, Stepehens, Cork, possibly Brownhill weren't PL central midfielders either. We have needed an upgrade in this area for a long while. We have now been relegated and need to prepare for the Championship. We have a new manager who is keen to bring in younger, new blood, after the club has decided to release its older out of contract players amd some other good players have decided to move on. We need new players, especially in midfield, so I welcome us being linked with these new names.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Do you rate Wiles & Ohare so highly?

Worry for me with being linked to so many midfielders is that neither really strike me as PL midfielders, should we go up! Appreciating that’s not something we need to immediately concern ourselves with.

I believe they are on the cusp between championship and premier league (personally think Wiles is a really really good signing).

I am more hoping that they both develop this season playing with better team mates and then if promoted they can make the step up.

Genuinely for the first time since Barton, Defour etc… happy with our midfield options if they come in to the club.

[Vino blanco]

Tbf, no-one has a clue as to whether any of our new signings are good enough to step up to the Championship.

It's certainly exciting, but a leap into the unknown as well.

I would like to think that our new managet, his staff and our recruitment team 'have an idea' if these new signings are good enough.

[RVclaret]

Tbf, no-one has a clue as to whether any of our new signings are good enough to step up to the Championship.

It's certainly exciting, but a leap into the unknown as well.

Errm I take it our recruitment team and manager do.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Tbf, no-one has a clue as to whether any of our new signings are good enough to step up to the Championship.

It's certainly exciting, but a leap into the unknown as well.

Both players have had two full seasons at championship level and both have pretty impressive stats. (Not just talking goals and assists, but passing, dribbles, shooting, tackles etc….)

[ArmchairDetective]

I'd love for Cornet to stay, but only if he is happy to stay and play in the Championship. A fired up Cornet could excel in a more progressive system in this league. But if any of our players are here half heartedly they could really struggle to shine in such a competitive league and could do with being moved on, a la Wout.

On paper the squad looks to be taking shape. I think we can afford to lose one of McNeil, Cornet, Collins or Brownhill as long as they are replaced with some experience and quality.

This season could be fun. UTC!

[Hipper]

Has Cornet had a cut in wages because of relegation. Surely that will be an important factor in his thinking if he has. Same applies to any other of our players who might get a Premier League opportunity.

[spt_claret]

In my opinion Westwood, Stepehens, Cork, possibly Brownhill weren't PL central midfielders either. We have needed an upgrade in this area for a long while. We have now been relegated and need to prepare for the Championship. We have a new manager who is keen to bring in younger, new blood, after the club has decided to release its older out of contract players amd some other good players have decided to move on. We need new players, especially in midfield, so I welcome us being linked with these new names.

Cork spent the vast majority of his career in the Premier League and even did well enough to play for England- while with us no less.

Westwood's form cratered in the last 18 months but before that he was terrific - he registered more assists than McNeil even when McNeil was flying, and there was a fantastic data analysis of him posted here which demonstrated that he was actually one of the most efficient centre midfielders in the entire Premier League.

Stephens and possibly Brownhill I'd agree, going further back Marney and Jones, and despite what I've just said I still felt we needed to improve our centre midfield as Westwood dipped, Defour and Barton left, and Cork really got hit by age and injury, meanwhile other teams were taking forward steps in that area of the pitch. But at their best they were both very good at PL level, and part of why we had such good finishes until the sale talks began and funds completely dried up.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If we could line up something like this come Huddersfield I suspect we finish in the top 2:

Muric
Roberts, Collins, THB, Taylor
Bastien, Wiles,
O’Hare, Twine, McNeil
New

[clarethomer]

If we could line up something like this come Huddersfield I suspect we finish in the top 2:

Muric
Roberts, Collins, THB, Taylor
Bastien, Wiles,
O’Hare, Twine, McNeil
New

The teams that finish in the promotion places are not always the ones that look good on paper but the ones that find consistency in winning, even when playing badly.

There is always a team that surprises usually and its a league where anyone can beat anyone on the day - hence why consistency is quite hard for teams in this league.

I think that team has the ability to be promoted for sure but Im not so confident that it would be a shoe in at all given short playing time and time needed to gel.

Never say never though.

[Vegas Claret]

If a big club comes in he Cornet will be off, and although it's only small, It's only the bigger clubs splashing that kind of money about at the minute.

But Cornet loves it here, he loves the fans attention he gets here. And the new lad Bastien looks a similar character to Cornet so will probably suit him down to the ground.
As well as better football and system for him (not having to chase back 30 yards as soon as we lose the ball) there are signs to me that he could well stay.

have you seen how quickly Man City chase back when they lose the ball - I expect our intensity to be up on what we usually see tbh, if you don't work hard you wont get in a VK team

[CoolClaret]

have you seen how quickly Man City chase back when they lose the ball - I expect our intensity to be up on what we usually see tbh, if you don't work hard you wont get in a VK team

As we used to at our best under Dyche

We used to press relentlessly and get the ball forward at pace

[joey13]

I would think Gordon used his left foot as many times as McNeil used his right foot.

You would think wrong then

[Tinribs]

Tbf, no-one has a clue as to whether any of our new signings are good enough to step up to the Championship.

It's certainly exciting, but a leap into the unknown as well.

Vincent Kompany thinks he knows,and I’d rate his judgement more than anyone who posts on here

[joey13]

He's not a winger or fullback either though. To me he's closer to a striker, arguably a trequartista/deep forward. I'd like to see him off the shoulder of a striker slightly to the right, coming in to use his left. Similar to Del Piero but on the other side, or a Dries Mertens. Or with his clever movement a Thomas Muller type role making unorthodox runs in and around the box.

I hope he stays. He's an unusual player but with bags of quality who if we can figure him out will be superb- he did very well last year even being bounced between roles and positions.

He was poor when he came back from the ANC , plus his attitude left a lot to be desired

[Vegas Claret]

People wondering about the likes of Brownhill - Forest just got promoted with 32 year old Jack Colback as one of their main players.........

[fidelcastro]

People wondering about the likes of Brownhill - Forest just got promoted with 32 year old Jack Colback as one of their main players.........

Skipton claret would have a cardiac if we signed someone like that!