Benson to Southampton

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
boatshed bill
Posts: 17375
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
Been Liked: 3565 times
Has Liked: 7837 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:59 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:57 pm
No?

I'm referring to how daft this 'model' can be if we get silly with it. Not quite as simple as some like to make out.
Te be honest, I'm not really sure what the model is.

Westleigh
Posts: 1387
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pm
Been Liked: 241 times
Has Liked: 230 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Westleigh » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:22 pm

Is this the system that VK’s part owner of or is that something else ?

Quicknick
Posts: 6789
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:25 pm
Been Liked: 1446 times
Has Liked: 9638 times
Location: Chiang Rai, Thailand.

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Quicknick » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:20 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:07 pm
I genuinely think Anass simply lacks that explosive pace off the mark needed at this level in his position. His end product also seemed to take a real dip post World Cup, again, in my opinion.

No doubting he has talent, but unfortunately for him, he now has Koleosho and Odobert rightly ahead of him as well as the unproven Tresor who came at a price and with a fairly strong reputation following his previous season.

No room for sentiment at this level of sport, so if VK doesn’t think he’s up to it, and if Anass isn’t happy, with his development stunted due to a lack of playing time, then a loan is the best and right choice. Either that or someone comes in with a good money offer which we can then use to reinvest in the squad elsewhere. Here’s a curve ball; could we use Anass as a makeweight plus some cash from us for Jack Clarke at Sunderland? That’s assuming we are still interested in him of course.
Good points there, but is Clarke better than Zaroury?

Ampth7
Posts: 1387
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:12 pm
Been Liked: 312 times
Has Liked: 283 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Ampth7 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:10 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:20 pm
Good points there, but is Clarke better than Zaroury?
Great question, and I have absolutely no idea. 🤣

Ultimately, does VK think Clarke is an upgrade to Zaroury?

Vegas Claret
Posts: 34898
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
Been Liked: 12712 times
Has Liked: 6320 times
Location: clue is in the title

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:55 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:10 pm
Great question, and I have absolutely no idea. 🤣

Ultimately, does VK think Clarke is an upgrade to Zaroury?
Sunderland want between 20-25 million for Clarke, no way we go for him at that price when we weren't prepared to pay half of that last summer

Nori1958
Posts: 3833
Joined: Tue May 03, 2022 10:45 am
Been Liked: 1112 times
Has Liked: 347 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:55 pm
Sunderland want between 20-25 million for Clarke, no way we go for him at that price when we weren't prepared to pay half of that last summer
Why would he come now anyway?

ClaretLoup
Posts: 2140
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:35 pm
Been Liked: 610 times
Has Liked: 212 times
Location: Retirement Home in Suffolk

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by ClaretLoup » Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:56 pm

Good point Nori and this is the problem created by our league position. We need to strengthen but the type of player we need won’t come given the probability is that they will end up in the Championship.

Nori1958
Posts: 3833
Joined: Tue May 03, 2022 10:45 am
Been Liked: 1112 times
Has Liked: 347 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:08 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:56 pm
Good point Nori and this is the problem created by our league position. We need to strengthen but the type of player we need won’t come given the probability is that they will end up in the Championship.
Exactly, which is roughly what Kompany has been saying recently.

Ampth7
Posts: 1387
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:12 pm
Been Liked: 312 times
Has Liked: 283 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Ampth7 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:41 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:32 pm
Why would he come now anyway?
Agree, although is there an argument whereby we are more likely to win promotion again next season when compared to Sunderland? I know this is a somewhat subjective opinion, but the odds/stats are more in favour of teams bouncing back when compared to those who have been lingering around the lower divisions for several years.

As for his supposed value of £20-25 million, that was why I threw in the curve ball Zaroury swap, which by the way, I don’t think will happen. However, if it could be agreed, obviously it’s impossible to say what Zaroury would be worth in a swap deal with Sunderland, but Anass’ value would be more than enough to make the money owed to Sunderland considerably less.

Nori1958
Posts: 3833
Joined: Tue May 03, 2022 10:45 am
Been Liked: 1112 times
Has Liked: 347 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:53 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:41 pm
Agree, although is there an argument whereby we are more likely to win promotion again next season when compared to Sunderland? I know this is a somewhat subjective opinion, but the odds/stats are more in favour of teams bouncing back when compared to those who have been lingering around the lower divisions for several years.

As for his supposed value of £20-25 million, that was why I threw in the curve ball Zaroury swap, which by the way, I don’t think will happen. However, if it could be agreed, obviously it’s impossible to say what Zaroury would be worth in a swap deal with Sunderland, but Anass’ value would be more than enough to make the money owed to Sunderland considerably less.
I agree re promotion, I just don't think footballers think that far ahead

Quickenthetempo
Posts: 19787
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
Been Liked: 4201 times
Has Liked: 2246 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:05 pm

Benson not even on the bench.

Definitely on the move.

Ampth7
Posts: 1387
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:12 pm
Been Liked: 312 times
Has Liked: 283 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Ampth7 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:53 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:53 pm
I agree re promotion, I just don't think footballers think that far ahead
You might be right and to be fair Sunderland are currently in the play offs whereas our position is less than desirable shall we say? 🤣

Ampth7
Posts: 1387
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:12 pm
Been Liked: 312 times
Has Liked: 283 times

Re: Benson to Southampton

Post by Ampth7 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:57 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:05 pm
Benson not even on the bench.

Definitely on the move.
Yep, imminent departure I reckon.

Post Reply