Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Jakubs Tash]

I’ve got a feeling we might see Humphreys at LB a bit (like when we first signed Ben Mee). When we come up against teams with strong attacking right sides, a left side of Pires and Koleosho sends shivers down my spine from a defensive perspective.

[Casper2]

I understand it fully. I understand enough to know that it will work great until it doesn't.

What we've learnt over the last season is that our ever so clever American overlords are not immune to

- making mistakes
- hubris
- naivety
- having the wool pulled over their eyes.

They, and their financial model are not infallible so you can take your condescension and shove it up your hoop.

All the best

Not heard hoop for ages

[quoonbeatz]

Benson made 2 short, late appearances at the end of last season and was more threatening than anybody else all season.

Yes, far more threatening than the guy we just sold to spurs for 30mil.

[Guller Bull]

Players in so far?

Hladkey
Greene
Esteve - contract
Tresor - Contract
Sambo
Pires
Humphries
Gudmunson - in out shake it all about.

Ronaldhino jnr?

Have I missed any?

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Players in so far?

Hladkey
Greene
Esteve - contract
Tresor - Contract
Sambo
Pires
Humphries
Gudmunson - in out shake it all about.

Ronaldhino jnr?

Have I missed any?

Hountondji

[bumba]

Anybody have any info on this guy?
From The Athletic: Aston Villa winger Samuel Iling-Junior is exploring potential loan options ahead of the transfer window deadline.

Young left winger England U21, signed from Juve highly rated

[Blyclaret]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

[AfloatinClaret]

I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately

I think on the pitch at the moment we can definitely compete with them...

Give it another half hour and you'll perhaps join the majority opinion?

[claretskeith]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

Esteve has only just signed.

[123EasyasBFC]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

Why does is look like both are off?

[Blyclaret]

Well Humphrey a left sided defender
Worral a right sided defender
O Shea and Esteve have interested party’s … so as we are in selling mode

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Al Dakhil off, McNally off and Beyer and Ekdal look nowhere near being fit anytime soon. Worrall looks like a good move.

[bumba]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

Or Beyer and Delcroix have serious injuries and Ekdal and Al Dakhil are off??

Maybe we'll sell O'Shea but I'd be go smacked if we didn't keep Esteve

[RicardoMontalban]

Well Humphrey a left sided defender
Worral a right sided defender
O Shea and Esteve have interested party’s … so as we are in selling mode

Who are the interested party for Estéve?

[gandhisflipflop]

Please do not sell Esteve Burnley. He is the one player who for me is key.

[Row x]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

Just looked on his twitter account, not mentioned

[xxmunkyennuixx]

Can't see it being Esteve as well. Would imagine AAD and O'Shea.

[Boss Hogg]

Sounds like the whole team is off and we are building another one.

[ArmchairDetective]

Surely Worrall is only a replacement for O'Shea?

I'd be gutted if we sold Esteve. But thought the rumours about him had quietened down. He seems pretty content here for now?

[xxmunkyennuixx]

Pace could have made this cheaper for himself by buying a copy of Footy Manager and holidaying the bit in between transfer windows.

[Jakubs Tash]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

Wolves are the only club to have been linked to Esteve so far this summer and it has been well documented over the last few days that they only have £20m to spend on a defender - which wouldn’t be enough to buy Esteve.

O’Shea on the other hand…..

[NewClaret]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

I think we have 3 CB’s leaving: O’Shea, AAD & McNally, so not necessarily a sign Esteve is off, but I agree it’s starting to look a bit precarious.

Wonder whether Palace fancy him to replace Gueye or Branthwaite to United is happening and

I suppose the only thing you can take from either scenario is that we’ve replaced before we sold, which is good business.

Pretty depressing though.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Palace set to sell Anderson to Fulham and Guehi still possibly going to leave.

Wonder if they will come in for DOS (or potentially Esteve)?

[Holtyclaret]

Worral having medical according to O Rourke.
Looks like O Shea and Esteve are off

Esteve??? Where’s he going?

Aad and probably o Shea (possibly McNally and Delcroix)

[RVclaret]

Palace set to sell Anderson to Fulham and Guehi still possibly going to leave.

Wonder if they will come in for DOS (or potentially Esteve)?

Id be more worried if I was Luton, I reckon Tenden Mengi will be a target. Other than that, Romano reporting they are in for a Bundesliga left footed cb.

[RVclaret]

Worrall medical link

https://www.footballinsider247.com/excl ... ms-agreed/

[Steddyman]

Just looked on his twitter account, not mentioned

It's there now

[123EasyasBFC]

I think we have 3 CB’s leaving: O’Shea, AAD & McNally, so not necessarily a sign Esteve is off, but I agree it’s starting to look a bit precarious.

Wonder whether Palace fancy him to replace Gueye or Branthwaite to United is happening and

I suppose the only thing you can take from either scenario is that we’ve replaced before we sold, which is good business.

Pretty depressing though.

Palace have a French lad coming in and want a lad from benfica.

United have spent the best part of 95m on two defenders they aren’t spending another 60m on another

Surely with all the info you have had you would know if a club wants esteve

[willsclarets]

Getting Humphries and Worrall in for 20+ million and selling Esteve/O Shea makes no sense to me. I know we have to balance the books, but a good CB pairing is so crucial to gaining promotion. Esteve and O Shea's value only goes up by the summer, and getting rid of them now reduces our chances of automatic spots. I'd rather sell Ekdal, Al Dahkil and Delcroix for relative peanuts and bring Humphries in as understudy. Still have McNally, and Beyer to come back, which is more than enough.

[Burnley Ace]

Agree entirely we this. We look a completely different threat the moment he walks on the pitch. He may not be a 90 minute player but the sort you need to win a championship and turn tight games.

Madness if we sell him.

https://understat.com/player/11702

His positive contribution last season was just slightly above 0. He did nothing. He did 1 pass that lead to a shot on goal, not a goal but a shot on goal. The sum of his entire seasons Xg was 0.09!!

[Row x]

It's there now

Yep, just appeared

[RVclaret]

Getting Humphries and Worrall in for 20+ million and selling Esteve/O Shea makes no sense to me. I know we have to balance the books, but a good CB pairing is so crucial to gaining promotion. Esteve and O Shea's value only goes up by the summer, and getting rid of them now reduces our chances of automatic spots. I'd rather sell Ekdal, Al Dahkil and Delcroix for relative peanuts and bring Humphries in as understudy. Still have McNally, and Beyer to come back, which is more than enough.

I’m not sure swapping O’Shea for Worrall reduces our chances of automation spots. I wasn’t enthused at first as he’s clearly not cut it over time in the Prem, but we aren’t there yet and right now we need top Champ players & leaders, of which he is (also homegrown quota). And you can’t just sell Ekdal and Delcroix when they are both injured.

[TheFamilyCat]

Sounds like the whole team is off and we are building another one.

No it doesn't. Drama queen.

[Enola Gay]

Do we and Leeds have the same scouting/analytic research on players, oarticularly midfield and wingers where we always seem to be linked with the same player, or is there a mole in either camp.

More likely we're being followed by the same lazy journalists who see one promotion-chasing club linked with a player and realise they can get a couple of hundred words out of linking him with another one.

[SGr]

O’Shea -> Worrall is a big downgrade for me.

Really think selling O’Shea is overcooking it.

[dibraidio]

Worrall medical link

https://www.footballinsider247.com/excl ... ms-agreed/

Worrall at 27 is a complete departure from the kind of player we keep being linked with. No resale value but someone with Championship and Premier League experience. More like a Dyche signing. Can only assume that he's cheap and is seen as adequate cover for departing players if this is true.

[123EasyasBFC]

It’s interesting that until Esteve came into the side nobody rated O’Shea, maybe Esteve is the modern day Ben mee and makes every defender next to him look good.

One key factor O’Shea has is pace that’s the thing we will miss the most and his ability to nick a goal from a corner

[willsclarets]

I’m not sure swapping O’Shea for Worrall reduces our chances of automation spots. I wasn’t enthused at first as he’s clearly not cut it over time in the Prem, but we aren’t there yet and right now we need top Champ players & leaders, of which he is (also homegrown quota). And you can’t just sell Ekdal and Delcroix when they are both injured.

I know two of the players are mentioned are injured, so likely to be a Jan sale. Worrall is a decent player no doubt, and if it's just O Shea on the way out I'd be slightly less concerned. Beyer in my opinion is being overlooked a little, he is a Rolls Royce of a defender if he can get/stay fit. The one I really want to keep is Esteve, for now. No doubt he'll move on but some continuity would be great. When I said automatic spots may be compromised it was on the basis both CBs would go not just O Shea.

[RVclaret]

I know two of the players are mentioned are injured, so likely to be a Jan sale. Worrall is a decent player no doubt, and if it's just O Shea on the way out I'd be slightly less concerned. Beyer in my opinion is being overlooked a little, he is a Rolls Royce of a defender if he can get/stay fit. The one I really want to keep is Esteve, for now. No doubt he'll move on but some continuity would be great. When I said automatic spots may be compromised it was on the basis both CBs would go not just O Shea.

Yeah fully agree re. Esteve. Surely can’t go and sell both starting cb’s 3 weeks into a season. Would be madness.

[Steddyman]

Why are people losing there **** over Esteve leaving where there has not been a single comment from someone with connections to suggest he is?

We will be losing Al Dakhil and O'Shea, and getting two defenders in.

I'm actually encouraged by the fact that unlike last season in the Championship, we are signing players with Premier League experience.

[Pearcey]

Worrall is an excellent championship player that doesn’t quite cut it in the premier league. That fact that O’Shea is only attracting Wolves, Brentford and Ipswich says a lot for me. I’ll be sad to lose him though.

[123EasyasBFC]

I know two of the players are mentioned are injured, so likely to be a Jan sale. Worrall is a decent player no doubt, and if it's just O Shea on the way out I'd be slightly less concerned. Beyer in my opinion is being overlooked a little, he is a Rolls Royce of a defender if he can get/stay fit. The one I really want to keep is Esteve, for now. No doubt he'll move on but some continuity would be great. When I said automatic spots may be compromised it was on the basis both CBs would go not just O Shea.

Correct had Beyer not been injured you would imagine Beyer and Esteve would have been the partnership last season and beginning of this season, worrall would be a solid option, not my first choice but solid until Beyer is fit

[gandhisflipflop]

I’d beyer was close I wouldn’t be that bothered about O’Shea but he isn’t, so I am. Worrell sounds like a leader which is what we need at the moment.

[Enola Gay]

To me not just Benson but the whole team were legends, only losing x3 games all season, breaking 100 point's in a season, winning x10 game's in a row, going x22 league game's without defeat and lifting the title at Ewood, legends the lot of them including Kompany

And here (arguably) lies the problem.

That team was fantastic, it gave me one of the best seasons of my life, even hearing those names will cast the mind back to some great moments, spectacular goals and amazing moments. Every one of them deserves a binload of praise for that season.

But harsh as it sounds, you can't let that influence your thinking forever if you're planning on progressing. At some point they're always going to be replaced and with us not having the access to the behind-the-scenes stuff that informs that (and no, watching both seasons of Mission To Burnley doesn't count) you've got to trust the very highly-paid professionals in charge. It's not like they don't all know the consequences of getting it wrong.

Our emotional attachment to those players is great but it's not something Parker et al could afford even if he had it.

[jtv]

Anybody have any info on this guy?
From The Athletic: Aston Villa winger Samuel Iling-Junior is exploring potential loan options ahead of the transfer window deadline.

Wasn't he at Juve the past season?

[claretskeith]

Pace could have made this cheaper for himself by buying a copy of Footy Manager and holidaying the bit in between transfer windows.

We'd have Mark Collis and Ferah Orosco as our assistants.

[AGENT_CLARET]

And here (arguably) lies the problem.

That team was fantastic, it gave me one of the best seasons of my life, even hearing those names will cast the mind back to some great moments, spectacular goals and amazing moments. Every one of them deserves a binload of praise for that season.

But harsh as it sounds, you can't let that influence your thinking forever if you're planning on progressing. At some point they're always going to be replaced and with us not having the access to the behind-the-scenes stuff that informs that (and no, watching both seasons of Mission To Burnley doesn't count) you've got to trust the very highly-paid professionals in charge. It's not like they don't all know the consequences of getting it wrong.

Our emotional attachment to those players is great but it's not something Parker et al could afford even if he had it.

Correct all legends but it doesn't mean they can't be sold and replaced

[Firthy]

You couldn't make some of this stuff up. Unfortunately some on here seem to manage it

[AfloatinClaret]

Apparently we've got Ivan TONEY! trouble is, we're selling him , but not to Man Utd...

Good move on our part; Toney doesn't really fit our player age/future sale profile model, will be on huge wages and has a history of illegal betting, so he just isn't the 'right-sort' for Turf Moor... We get rid of a player we don't want and clear a good chunk of the Club's debt, what's not to like.

[warksclaret]

Hopefully speculation about O Shea going, will not happen. Would mean Oshea and Esteve as our starting two, Worrall as stand in if injuries, Humphreys battling with Worrall for this, but he provides cover in both full back positions too, which is great as Vitinho is at his best wide midfield. Means McNally and Al Dakhill can go, and hopefully Decroix too (but may be hard if injured). I think if Beyer ever gets fit then a loan out in Jan for game time. If someone did come in for silly money for O Shea then we have good cover in Worrall, but Esteve going too is absolutely crazy.