Swans versus Mighty Clarets

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:54 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I really hope I don't remind you of this in a few weeks. We aren't going to pick up many points between now and the end of the seaosn. Not going to happen.

Good job we don't need many then.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:54 pm

Swansea deserved it. Dyche a fossil away from home. Lacks any sort of bravery and just sticks to what he knows. Until he takes real risks (and that includes during the actual game) then we won't get an away win.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:54 pm

Very poor. We had no answer to that, it was the same all afternoon.

Can't keep persisting with the same tactics away from home and getting beat

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:54 pm

Tarkowski and Westwood was a ******* surreal substitution.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Can someone please teach these players how to pass and control the ******* ball.

Den_Perry · Post by **Den_Perry** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Just remind me how many crosses we put into their box?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Gutted

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Boyd useless. Robinson below premier league quality. Dyche as predictable as ever. Didn't deserve a penalty. But if that's not a foul on Mee then I don't know what is...

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Dyche out

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Robinson is a Joker in goal.. pay him up n get rid!!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

IF we stay up we will need to spend a boat load of cash to improve the first 11

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:55 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Can someone please teach these players how to pass and control the ******* ball.

We've spent so long in so many games without it that we don't know what to do with it when we do get it. Just look at the game versus Lincoln!

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:56 pm

No complaints from me, battered to death and an absolutely shocking display of
kick and rush football. No quality on show from us whatsoever today I'm afraid.

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:56 pm

Awful performance. Way too many passengers today.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:56 pm

2 headers like that i shocking

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:56 pm

just seen stats for the game

no comment
well roll on next game at home in 3 weeks

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:56 pm

this board is hilarious when we get beat

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:56 pm

It's almost like the players are frightened to death away from home.

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Yeah no complaints. They were better all over. Missed the skill of Defour as a playmaker in games like this, even if it is only for 45 mins.

We're away from home, Swansea are on form. Never gonna be easy.

Can we please learn how to beat the offside trap though?

Gray did have a much better game as it takes 2 lads to mark him, and did deserve his goals. Hopefully his confidence will carry over into the training sessions.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Did well to keep them to 3. Thank goodness my next away game is Crystal Palace and it's walking distance to the mother in law's. At least I'll get a good tea afterwards

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Agree with ksr, the passing on show yet again was just pathetic for a Premier League side. Surely we aren't that bad.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Swans deserved the win but given the luck we were handed we should been smart enough to come away with a point. Dissapointing

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:57 pm

HendricksHair wrote:this board is hilarious when we get beat

It isn't about getting beat. We're used to losing away from home but there have been positives to take away from some of the recent away performances.

We were awful today - there's rightly discussion to be had.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:58 pm

i rhink the current bottom 3 are the final 3

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:58 pm

HendricksHair wrote:this board is hilarious when we get beat

Oh sorry no one allowed to have an opinion!

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:58 pm

Swansea deserved it, but Dyche substitutions helped them. Boyd appalling!

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:58 pm

criminalclaret wrote:Great header. Terrible defending. 4 lads there!!!

Definite foul. Referees as usual not doing due diligence and looking before the game at what players do illegally to get away with things. Today, Llorente leaning into players with the arm and giving a shove. But it happens every week. Deserved to lose though

Den_Perry · Post by **Den_Perry** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:58 pm

Ha. 28% possession.

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm

No idea why Pope isn't second choice, yes he is inexperienced but there's a reason why Robinson hasn't played regularly over the past 4 years.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm

We had about as much luck as we're going to get in one game... and we still lost.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm

IndigoLake wrote:It isn't about getting beat. We're used to losing away from home but there have been positives to take away from some of the recent away performances.

We were awful today - there's rightly discussion to be had.

You're right.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm

Would have win that if Tom had been playing. Wouldn't have deserved it though

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:00 pm

joey13 wrote:Oh sorry no one allowed to have an opinion!

No, no they're not

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:00 pm

Den_Perry wrote:Just remind me how many crosses we put into their box?

When you've got wide men who are told to play defensive and narrow you will never see any crosses into the box - and that applies at home as well as away

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:00 pm

On a positive note, we might not be last on MOTD

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:01 pm

IndigoLake wrote:It isn't about getting beat. We're used to losing away from home but there have been positives to take away from some of the recent away performances.

We were awful today - there's rightly discussion to be had.

Surely managing to go 2-1 up when the run of play was against us is a positive?

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:01 pm

joey13 wrote:Oh sorry no one allowed to have an opinion!

Of course they are but let's have a bit of perspective, eh ?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

I'm not at the game, but some saying we were terrible, it's Robinson's fault etc, were you there?

ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

Best team won. We have only one system - kick it up to the two forwards. Dont think I even heard Brady or his school boy mate mentioned.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:02 pm

HendricksHair wrote:this board is hilarious when we get beat

If you have seen the game today, and are totally honest with yourself, you will admit that
we were dreadful today and a million miles away from what we need to be for next season.

It's not the getting beat, it's the manner in which we were beat.

Just hope Bellew gets a pasting tonight, to ease my sadness, in the words of Van Morrison.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:03 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Surely managing to go 2-1 up when the run of play was against us is a positive?

Sure. I didn't say there were no positives today but there were few. And let's be clear - the first goal (the penalty) was extremely fortunate.

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:03 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Of course they are but let's have a bit of perspective, eh ?

Exactly, so we played awful but managed to go 2-1 up away from home, only losing to an injury time winner. There's having an opinion and then there's going completely overboard with it

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:03 pm

jojomk1 wrote:When you've got wide men who are told to play defensive and narrow you will never see any crosses into the box - and that applies at home as well as away

I can't believe so many people fail to grasp this simple concept.

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:04 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Sure. I didn't say there were no positives today but there were few. And let's be clear - the first goal (the penalty) was extremely fortunate.

And their winner was a clear foul on Ben Mee

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:04 pm

Gray fed off scraps all game, got a good goal from the only bit of service he received. That's maybe the only positive for me.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:04 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Of course they are but let's have a bit of perspective, eh ?

Yes we were awful today

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:05 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Exactly, so we played awful but managed to go 2-1 up away from home, only losing to an injury time winner. There's having an opinion and then there's going completely overboard with it

They hit the woodwork multiple times and we cleared off the line twice. It could (and probably should) have been a heavy Swansea win.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:08 pm

jojomk1 wrote:When you've got wide men who are told to play defensive and narrow you will never see any crosses into the box - and that applies at home as well as away

Last Burnley player to put a cross into the opposition penalty area was Kieran trippier.

Den_Perry · Post by **Den_Perry** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:10 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I can't believe so many people fail to grasp this simple concept.

Why spend a record amount on a winger known for his crossing ability/assists? Because he sure as f doesn't look like he's happy to just run around breaking up play and helping out his full back like Boyd does. Complete waste of money if that is the planned use for him.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:13 pm

ebby wrote:Best team won. We have only one system - kick it up to the two forwards. Dont think I even heard Brady or his school boy mate mentioned.

Bypassed the midfield constantly. Hoof a long ball, lose possession, repeat.

On the occasions we won the ball back in midfield, we played some nice football, but as soon as it goes backwards, we just hoof it again. We lack the quality up front to link the play and hold the ball up. Of course we are going to only have 30% possession playing this way. And when Brady never gets the ball out wide and Boyd is our other crossing option, we aren't going to threaten from crosses. Dyche is a predictable manager. Starting line up, tactics, substitutions. If it's working, fine. But we only have 2 points away from home. And I'm not sure anybody would argue that we seriously deserve more