Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:37 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:29 pm
Given the very small profit made on a player who has now had a season of PL football and a decent scoring record maybe Alan has learnt his lesson and won't be including 'release clauses' in future contracts. It makes no sense to limit the possible sell-on value of a player in that fashion.
It is more likely the clause has come from the player and his agent side, especially once relegation occurs.

Sometimes you are faced with 2 options have these clauses or miss out on the player. It is like the Trippier deal it took some a few years to grasp it and still even to today some don't. I can imagine the comments had we not signed Cornet and then it came out we didn't sign him due to not agreeing to a release clause in his contract.
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Post by Steddyman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:37 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:29 pm
Given the very small profit made on a player who has now had a season of PL football and a decent scoring record maybe Alan has learnt his lesson and won't be including 'release clauses' in future contracts. It makes no sense to limit the possible sell-on value of a player in that fashion.
Mostly likely we would not have been able to buy him without it in place, especially when you consider where we were in the table.
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Post by Yearofthefox » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:38 pm

Hopefully a striker is priority now.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:38 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:29 pm
Given the very small profit made on a player who has now had a season of PL football and a decent scoring record maybe Alan has learnt his lesson and won't be including 'release clauses' in future contracts. It makes no sense to limit the possible sell-on value of a player in that fashion.
Or, the more likely scenario, is that Maxwel Cornet, Ivory Coast international and Champions League pedigree player from Lyon, would not sign for Burnley unless there was such clause in the contract.
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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm

Hello Forza.

The likes of Trippier (back in the day) or Cornet, or even Collins, don't sign / re-sign without such clauses.

We are a magnificent, but medium sized club, and thus face challenges on occasions getting excellent players over the line who long term back themselves to go onto bigger and better things.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm

Is there a press conference today? That would be the ideal chance to showcase Benson, surely?

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Post by claretandy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:54 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm
Is there a press conference today? That would be the ideal chance to showcase Benson, surely?
Yes, kompany pre match press conference.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:55 pm

claretandy wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:54 pm
Yes, kompany pre match press conference.
But what time? No indication on the official site.

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Post by Goody1975 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:10 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:55 pm
But what time? No indication on the official site.
Last week it was about 2.30pm-3pm, I think.

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Post by forzagranata » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:21 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm
Hello Forza.

The likes of Trippier (back in the day) or Cornet, or even Collins, don't sign / re-sign without such clauses.

We are a magnificent, but medium sized club, and thus face challenges on occasions getting excellent players over the line who long term back themselves to go onto bigger and better things.

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Yeah I can understand that is the logic behind agreeing to those things at the time of purchase but when you look at foreign players who triple their value after one season in the PL - it would be wise to avoid those kind of arrangements whenever possible.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:32 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm
Is there a press conference today? That would be the ideal chance to showcase Benson, surely?
I can't remember the last time we unveiled a player at a press conference. It just seems to be videos on the website.

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Post by jackmiggins » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:34 pm

Ooh…….love all the conversation about clauses in contracts that no one had seen or read. Please get a LIFE 🙏

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:43 pm

jackmiggins wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:34 pm
Ooh…….love all the conversation about clauses in contracts that no one had seen or read. Please get a LIFE 🙏
I love it when posters take the time to log on to a forum they don't like and post about how others on there ought to get a life.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:46 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:32 pm
I can't remember the last time we unveiled a player at a press conference. It just seems to be videos on the website.
That doesn't mean it won't happen. We have a different regime in charge now. If not, why hasn't Benny already been announced? Problems with the medical maybe?

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:51 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:58 am
Yes Ian the whole world and his dog seem to want Maxwell, but seem to want to pay the asking price!!!

ps will SHE be fit for Saturday???
The club should stick out for the whole amount or a big chunk and more than a big chunk later. Cornet should be getting ready to play.

Sadly, it appears that she is no longer welcome, by the controllers, on this board. I am unable to post any images, which is a sad indictment.

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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:56 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:21 pm
Yeah I can understand that is the logic behind agreeing to those things at the time of purchase but when you look at foreign players who triple their value after one season in the PL - it would be wise to avoid those kind of arrangements whenever possible.
All agreed avoid where possible Forza.

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Post by ecc » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:59 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:56 pm
All agreed avoid where possible Forza.

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What exactly do you mean by that?

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:00 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaiM1GAJOGA

Link to Kompany's press conference today, for those interested. I'm sure there'll be a few snippets on transfers.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:04 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:00 pm
He’s got a point though it is pretty much guesswork from us all we aren’t privy to the intricacies of such sensitive information & by & large we don’t really know but that doesn’t stop us from pretending we do.
No, it's being discussed on a discussion forum for fans of Burnley FC. If you're not interested, then fair enough, the beauty is nobody is forced to read it, let alone post.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:04 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaiM1GAJOGA

Link to Kompany's press conference today, for those interested. I'm sure there'll be a few snippets on transfers.
Already posted, just above.

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Post by Rileybobs » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:06 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm
Is there a press conference today? That would be the ideal chance to showcase Benson, surely?
Do we ever 'showcase' new transfers at the manager's press conference?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:08 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:04 pm
No, it's being discussed on a discussion forum for fans of Burnley FC. If you're not interested, then fair enough, the beauty is nobody is forced to read it, let alone post.
& the assumption is people have to agree with it, on occasions we don’t even get the opportunity to be forced to read anything because some posts get deleted straightaway even without obvious reason. Even if we wanted to read or ignore we’d be on a hiding to nothing.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:08 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:06 pm
Do we ever 'showcase' new transfers at the manager's press conference?
As I said earlier, it's a new regime, so why not? What's the delay otherwise? Failed medical? We'll soon know, one way or the other.
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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:10 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:08 pm
As I said earlier, it's a new regime, so why not? What's the delay otherwise? Failed medical?
We have been announcing signings after 5pm. Not saying we definitely will today but that’s been the trend so far.

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Post by Rileybobs » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:11 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:08 pm
As I said earlier, it's a new regime, so why not? What's the delay otherwise? Failed medical? We'll soon know, one way or the other.
Who say's there's a delay. All recent signings have been unveiled on Twitter as far as I'm aware, I expect Benson will be the same. In the meantime, the club have to do their creative media work and press releases etc. What's the rush?

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:10 pm
We have been announcing signings after 5pm. Not saying we definitely will today but that’s been the trend so far.
Maybe it's just media stuff holding it up. Let's hope so.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:15 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:12 pm
Maybe it's just media stuff holding it up. Let's hope so.
Just be patient. We've already signed 9, we're pretty good at it now, and there is absolutely nothing to suggest there is a delay. Chill man. It'll happen soon.

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Post by claretandy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:16 pm

claretandy wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:29 pm
Cornet gone....

https://twitter.com/FabriceHawkins/stat ... L9N9A&s=19
Cornet going West Ham for a medical in case anyone missed it ...

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:19 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:15 pm
Just be patient. We've already signed 9, we're pretty good at it now, and there is absolutely nothing to suggest there is a delay. Chill man. It'll happen soon.
I'm chilled, and far more patient than most people. It's just that I've been a Burnley fan for 70 years now and I'm eager to get Benson announced, so we can move on to the next one.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:19 pm
I'm chilled, and far more patient than most people. It's just that I've been a Burnley fan for 70 years now and I'm eager to get Benson announced, so we can move on to the next one.
The club doesn't need to announce Benson before it can move on to the next one.

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Post by Boxy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm

For all we know he could of signed yesterday. Players aren't insanely announced once signed. There's a lot of media and stuff they have to do

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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm

ecc wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:59 pm
What exactly do you mean by that?
Hello Ecc

I mean we (BFC) should of course should avoid release clauses where possible. I.e. the situation where there is no competitive tension when signing a player. In those instances, we can obviously play hard ball with the agent. Appreciate this is egg sucking.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm

I wonder if some posters think its ok to have a relegation drop in wages for players but not ok for them to have a relegation release clause?

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:22 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm
The club doesn't need to announce Benson before it can move on to the next one.
I wasn't born yesterday, I do know that.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:23 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:22 pm
I wasn't born yesterday, I do know that.
I'm a bit confused by your post then. Why do we need to announce Benson and then we can move on to the next one?

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Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:24 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:50 pm
Scheduled presser 2-15 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaiM1GAJOGA
They are late!

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:26 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:23 pm
I'm a bit confused by your post then. Why do we need to announce Benson and then we can move on to the next one?
You obviously get confused very easily. Once Benson is announced, we as fans can start getting excited about who's next. I wasn't talking about the club. I think you are just nit picking or looking for an argument of some sort.

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Post by Gordaleman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:27 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:24 pm
They are late!
Aren't they always?

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Post by ecc » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:28 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm
Hello Ecc

I mean we (BFC) should of course should avoid release clauses where possible. I.e. the situation where there is no competitive tension when signing a player. In those instances, we can obviously play hard ball with the agent. Appreciate this is egg sucking.

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Hi GBP,

Thanks. So, if I understand rightly, you agree with forzagranta (?).

Cheers

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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:31 pm

ecc wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:28 pm
Hi GBP,

Thanks. So, if I understand rightly, you agree with forzagranta (?).

Cheers
This is my stance Ecc..... with the additional line that of course when the situation allows the clause to be avoided, it would be as BAU.

Cheers
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GrahamBranchsPerm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:40 pm
Hello Forza.

The likes of Trippier (back in the day) or Cornet, or even Collins, don't sign / re-sign without such clauses.

We are a magnificent, but medium sized club, and thus face challenges on occasions getting excellent players over the line who long term back themselves to go onto bigger and better things.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:31 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:26 pm
You obviously get confused very easily. Once Benson is announced, we as fans can start getting excited about who's next. I wasn't talking about the club. I think you are just nit picking or looking for an argument of some sort.
No argument. I'm sure Benson will be announced when the club are ready to do so and all the details have been concluded.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:38 pm

Boxy wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm
For all we know he could of signed yesterday. Players aren't insanely announced once signed. There's a lot of media and stuff they have to do
That as well but what some people naively don’t realise is that until you are 100% sure all the paperwork is signed off you can’t officially announce you can be 99.9 but you can’t jump the gun well you could but you’d be rather foolish for doing so.

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Post by martin_p » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:38 pm

Kompany has just said in his press conference that he expects Benson to be coming to Burnley.

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Post by jtv » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:39 pm

Vizeh
​Benson Confirmed, class times

Comment on text channel during VK presser

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Post by martin_p » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:43 pm

jtv wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:39 pm
Vizeh
​Benson Confirmed, class times

Comment on text channel during VK presser
Not confirmed as such, but he does expect him to be here.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:51 pm

Another good presser from VK

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:51 pm

Kompany impeccable in his press conference...again.

What a joy to listen to he is - matter of fact, transparent, just a pleasure to hear from.

He basically confirmed Benson and said that it'll be announced shortly.

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