Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[CFS]

Cornet doesn't want to come?
The brass on that chap, don't want him either If he's going to blow his own trumpet like that.

Same for tarky too?

[MACCA]

Are we actually trying to strengthen central midfield ? Cork /Brownhill don’t really cut it and need improving. I won’t comment on Stephens.

IMO its Cork that needs upgrading, I'd have Brownhill ahead of him.

The fact is we probably need 2 or 3 starters, as the first 11 has gone z bit stale and age is certainly catching up with a few.

Suppose it's the result of a few consecutive failed windows. If you stand still in this league, you often go backwards

[boatshed bill]

Cornet doesn't want to come?
The brass on that chap, don't want him either If he's going to blow his own trumpet like that.

Well he's clearly not in tune with what SD wants to orchestrate

[Lancasterclaret]

So we've signed him to play left wind back?

[MACCA]

From Local Cricketer?

Absolutely not, if he said it was raining I'd go outside to check, he's constantly on the wind up.

[boatshed bill]

There's something wrong with Cornet, I just can't put my finger on it

[randomclaret2]

As long as we can get a tune out of him...

[Local cricketer]

Absolutely not, if he said it was raining I'd go outside to check, he's constantly on the wind up.

Lovely bit of rain today

[Down_Rover]

If the club think Cornet is good enough then I hope we sign him.

If he does not sign there are many on here who will be delighted at the opportunity to rant about the failings of the club. This despite not knowing what has been happening throughout the negotiations

We are dealing with real people here not playing FIFA

[Jakubclaret]

If the club think Cornet is good enough then I hope we sign him.

If he does not sign there are many on here who will be delighted at the opportunity to rant about the failings of the club. This despite not knowing what has been happening throughout the negotiations

We are dealing with real people here not playing FIFA

True that’s why it’s important to have some sort of a backup plan another target, if it doesn’t happen the groundwork is already laid for somebody else, that failure will disappoint.

[Colburn_Claret]

IMO its Cork that needs upgrading, I'd have Brownhill ahead of him.

The fact is we probably need 2 or 3 starters, as the first 11 has gone z bit stale and age is certainly catching up with a few.

Suppose it's the result of a few consecutive failed windows. If you stand still in this league, you often go backwards

I feel the same, start Brownhill, but Cork did put in some good performances when he came back in last season. Some of his best for us.

[Bazer1882]

If Cornets main concern is lack of nightlife in Burnley? What does this tell of his professionalism!
Just move on from this one

[Iloveyoubrady]

If Cornets main concern is lack of nightlife in Burnley? What does this tell of his professionalism!
Just move on from this one

Nobody ever said he was concerned about the nightlife in Burnley. and in fact he has been described as a “nice guy” and “good professional.”

[kentonclaret]

Will the signing be announced by a huge fanfare or the trumpet voluntary

[NewClaret]

If Cornets main concern is lack of nightlife in Burnley? What does this tell of his professionalism!
Just move on from this one

Pace quotes this morning:

“… you have to be really cautious because if you are going to take somebody, you have to have somebody who wants to play here and in the Premier League and is going to give the effort.

Sean has a style of playing and a fitness level that has to be adhered to.

If you are going to come here, you better be prepared to work, because otherwise it ain't going to work.”

Twitter this evening:

“Cornet prefers Hertha, prefers nightlife elsewhere, etc.”

Something’s not adding up, but I trust we’ll be nowhere near a player that doesn’t want to be here!

[Vegas Claret]

interesting in terms of attitude (which I've also picked up along the way from various OL fans)

[Iloveyoubrady]

interesting in terms of attitude (which I've also picked up along the way from various OL fans)

Funny that. One of the things I have heard from Lyon fans is that he has been a good pro and worked hard. So much conflicting information out there. We'll see if it happens or not over the next few days...

[Burnley Ace]

Reports that Choudhury is interested in a loan to Newcastle as he wants more first team football

[martin_p]

Funny that. One of the things I have heard from Lyon fans is that he has been a good pro and worked hard. So much conflicting information out there. We'll see if it happens or not over the next few days...

I’d hesitate to call any of it ‘information’.

[superdimitri]

Aaron Lennon did a full 90 alongside Gomez-Mancini, Richardson, Bobby Thomas, Nathan Collins, Vyds, Barnes, Pieters, Bardsley (and I can’t pick out the rest...) in a behind closed doors friendly at Manchester United. We lost 3-1. Barnes was booked but I don’t know who our scorer was. Lingard, Maguire, and Fred scored to my knowledge.

The reason this is relevant to transfers: Aaron Lennon is assuredly joining us. No way he’d show up on match day AND being playing this friendly if he wasn’t... even if it was a favor from Dyche.

This also lets us know that Gomez-Mancini has broke into the first team thinking. He may get a debut this year. Lewis Richardson is clearly there as well. He has already debuted as of last year doing expertly IMO. We MAY have a ready made backup PL level striker in Richardson. He needs game time and maybe a loan to a championship side.

This team is probably our Carabao Cup team with one or two additions.

This also seems to be telling me Dyche may prefer Jay Rod to Vyds OR that Vyds is still not match fit. (He did just get married and take vacation.)

So... add in Cornet maybe... all arrows point in that direction, Lennon for sure, and we have a team that can compete this season. Gomez Mancini is a better back up than Stephens IMO so best to cast off the deadwood and focus on strengthening CM in January or next Summer.

It's really not unusual for the younger players to play in pre season games. Don't get your hopes up thinking it means anything though. It's usually the case they never make the team, and it's only last year that they had some appearances that really bucked that tends. I certainly hope they can perform well if they do get the chance though.

I don’t get it either. If he really didn’t want to come to Burnley then we wouldn’t be pursuing this.

Dyche like signings. As he himself said last week, all managers like to sign good characters but there are times when it’s right to bring in a player who is a different character and he mentioned Joey.

I don't get this 'he doesn't want to be here' stuff. If that was true he wouldn't even be talking to us yet we are apparently making progress.

Berlin may be more attractive to him, but there is much more than cobbled streets and cotton mills here. The area has seen many former players take up residence locally.

If he likes the lights and sights of city life, Manchester and Liverpool are not a million miles away. Football-wise, he would be right on the doorstep of some of the biggest clubs in the country. There is every incentive right there. Catch the eye of City, Utd, Liverpool... who knows what his next step will be.

We know next to nothing about him yet he is being blindly judged because it would be an un-Dyche-like signing. We are calling for progression on our playing style, yet pick holes when we look for something different.

The mind boggles.

The mind certainly does boggle. As mentioned already no one really said he didn't want to come to Burnley, only that he'd prefer Berlin. This fact wasn't pulled from thin air, but instead comes from numerous news sources saying he would prefer going there rather than here. The reasons why may be unknown, but it's really kind of obvious why that may be..I honestly can't be bothered going on about them again because it's already been done to death. If you guys can't understand why he would rather go there I'm really at a loss!

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Stories about him wanting the Hertha move are all a ploy by the agent to get them to return and match our bid, in my opinion.

He can then get more money with two clubs fighting on terms.

I am sure that had he not wanted to come at all, we wouldnt even be at that point in the deal.

Surely we developed since the Lansbury debacle?

[Vegas Claret]

Funny that. One of the things I have heard from Lyon fans is that he has been a good pro and worked hard. So much conflicting information out there. We'll see if it happens or not over the next few days...

yep, all pinch of salt stuff from all perspectives !!

[Pearcey]

I just can’t see Cornet coming here. I hope he does but it seems very un Burnley like. I’d be happy if he did though.

[ClaretMov]

Cornet was on 36k in 2019 and that's from a previous pay rise several season's back, he resigned a new deal in 2019 taking up until 2023 season and given another pay increase up to 49k and that's pounds not euros surely if he come to Burnley we would have to smash our wage structure and pay him above the 55k Ben Mee is on.......can't see us doing this

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Cornet was on 36k in 2019 and that's from a previous pay rise several season's back, he resigned a new deal in 2019 taking up until 2023 season and given another pay increase up to 49k and that's pounds not euros surely if he come to Burnley we would have to smash our wage structure and pay him above the 55k Ben Mee is on.......can't see us doing this

I'm not sure us paying 5-10k a week higher than the top earner is 'smashing' the wage structure. If it was 80k then maybe.

I'm sure even Ben will realize he has hit his ceiling when it comes to salary, I can't see a club paying him more than 55k at this stage in his career, and we have to stretch the finances at some point.

We'll have to wait and see I guess.

[williamjblazkowicz]

According to this link, Leeds have enquired about Brownhill. Take it with a pinch of salt but it does at least fit under the "rumours - links - discussion" elements of the thread!

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/leeds-uni ... -exclusive

Personally, I wouldn't sell largely because we've proven ourselves incapable of strengthening the team in recent seasons.

[box_of_frogs]

Surely we developed since the Lansbury debacle?

Oh, you’re being serious…..

[Newcastleclaret93]

According to this link, Leeds have enquired about Brownhill. Take it with a pinch of salt but it does at least fit under the "rumours - links - discussion" elements of the thread!

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/leeds-uni ... -exclusive

Personally, I wouldn't sell largely because we've proven ourselves incapable of strengthening the team in recent seasons.

Get rid and get Hendrick back for next to nothing. Newcastle are actively looking to get rid of him.

Then look to get another Cm in

[Iloveyoubrady]

No, brownhill is developing into a good cm, miles better than Jeff Hendrick. The guy wins the ball back, more than Hendrick ever did. I suspect brownhill will really kick on over the next couple of years and grow into a fine player. We have already seen him lead interceptions tables last year and this has attracted a few rumours from bigger clubs.

[Local cricketer]

No, brownhill is developing into a good cm, miles better than Jeff Hendrick. The guy wins the ball back, more than Hendrick ever did. I suspect brownhill will really kick on over the next couple of years and grow into a fine player. We have already seen him lead interceptions tables last year and this has attracted a few rumours from bigger clubs.

Must be watching a different Brownhill to me

[claretonthecoast1882]

No, brownhill is developing into a good cm, miles better than Jeff Hendrick. The guy wins the ball back, more than Hendrick ever did. I suspect brownhill will really kick on over the next couple of years and grow into a fine player. We have already seen him lead interceptions tables last year and this has attracted a few rumours from bigger clubs.

You have to ignore the irrational comments newcastle makes about Brownhill, he has a very bitter agenda against him. I used to think he turned up at a a game with a piece of cardboard asking for his shirt at the end of the a match and was snubbed but then he admits he doesn't go to games. I can only presume he asked Josh to follow him back on twitter and he was ignored. He has had a petty boring agenda against him since the day he signed. Hopefully he grows up 1 day and moves on from this.

Strange though how he has been linked with 2 clubs, West Ham with a much better squad than us and now Leeds who have the greatest manager in the history of the game, yet he isn't good enough for us.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No, brownhill is developing into a good cm, miles better than Jeff Hendrick. The guy wins the ball back, more than Hendrick ever did. I suspect brownhill will really kick on over the next couple of years and grow into a fine player. We have already seen him lead interceptions tables last year and this has attracted a few rumours from bigger clubs.

I think he is ok as a back up Cm but for me he is knowhere near the level of cork and Westwood. If we can get more than we paid for him in my opinion we should cash in and try strengthen in that area.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Strange though how he has been linked with 2 clubs, West Ham with a much better squad than us and now Leeds who have the greatest manager in the history of the game, yet he isn't good enough for us.

Exactly. It’s as if some expected this creative number 10 when we signed him and are disappointed now he isn’t.

[superdimitri]

No way we'd let been Brownhill leave. He's far too honest to play for Leeds anyway.

[MACCA]

Get rid and get Hendrick back for next to nothing. Newcastle are actively looking to get rid of him.

Then look to get another Cm in

Brownhill is already our 2nd best CM and is relatively inexperienced at this level.
He is young enough to develop even more.

The mere fact Leeds are interested ir have watched him tells you all his attributes.
They play a high tempo, high pressing game and play on off the turnover.

He is very good at getting about the pitch and winning the ball back, I suspect he will be a key player for us in the future ( imo should be now )

I'm sure we have him for upto 4 more years too, great business getting him tied up long term.

[MACCA]

Lovely bit of rain today

Dry where I am, I've got a lovely view this morning for my coffee.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Brownhill is already our 2nd best CM and is relatively inexperienced at this level.
He is young enough to develop even more.

The mere fact Leeds are interested ir have watched him tells you all his attributes.
They play a high tempo, high pressing game and play on off the turnover.

He is very good at getting about the pitch and winning the ball back, I suspect he will be a key player for us in the future ( imo should be now )

I'm sure we have him for upto 4 more years too, great business getting him tied up long term.

That’s a fair opinion, I can see why people like him he’s a grafter.

In my opinion CM is our weakest position with only Westwood currently premier league quality. I genuinely believe we are one quality CM signing away from a good side

[1914tyrone]

Cork has been on good form since he came back into the side, I don't know what the gripe is against him. He's quality, it was Westwood who didn't track his man for the Brighton winner! They both lack in stature and someone more athletic could replace either of them if we want to move up a level. UTC

[Down_Rover]

True that’s why it’s important to have some sort of a backup plan another target, if it doesn’t happen the groundwork is already laid for somebody else, that failure will disappoint.

I believe they have back up plans. I suspect they are looking at several players at the same time. Maybe Cornet is not a number one target for us, maybe he is the consolation prize if we don’t get Maitland Niles. Maybe Christie is the bronze medal.

I don’t know and nobody on this board does. That is my point.

But it does not stop posters here criticising the club after every item they read on Twitter

[Woodleyclaret]

Charlie Taylor was overloaded for both Brighton goals with no one covering or tackling the runners
Then the marking allowing a donkey like Maupay to score was awful
But we need more steel in cm
Alex Mowatt just moved from Barnsley would have been a good shout or Harrison Reed at Fulham still is

[Denno97]

Cork has been on good form since he came back into the side, I don't know what the gripe is against him. He's quality, it was Westwood who didn't track his man for the Brighton winner! They both lack in stature and someone more athletic could replace either of them if we want to move up a level. UTC

Brownhill should be first name on the teamsheet in midfield and Cork/Westwood playing for one spot. Personally would go Cork but it's much of a muchness

[Rileybobs]

Brownhill should be first name on the teamsheet in midfield and Cork/Westwood playing for one spot. Personally would go Cork but it's much of a muchness

It’s really not. Westwood is by far our most creative midfielder.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

It’s really not. Westwood is by far our most creative midfielder.

Agree on this. Westwood/Brownhill is our best pairing IMO.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Brownhill would be ideal in a three, the issue we have is that we don’t have the depth in that particular position, nor do we have enough speed in the wide areas (yet), I think Brownhill would be fantastic winning the ball high up the pitch with two wingers outside him offering a counter

[Paddy1882]

It’s really not. Westwood is by far our most creative midfielder.

Completely agree and as last seasons stats show Brownhill breaks up play and intercepts more…. As for cork I do not see what he offers anymore, doesn’t score, doesn’t assist, doesn’t tackle, very rarely passes forward…. Not great ingredients for a CM in the prem

[jrgbfc]

Taking set pieces greatly skews Westwood's stats for assists. I'd say Cork is a far better passer of the ball.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Taking set pieces greatly skews Westwood's stats for assists. I'd say Cork is a far better passer of the ball.

I agree cork is the best passer at the club

[brexit]

Completely agree and as last seasons stats show Brownhill breaks up play and intercepts more…. As for cork I do not see what he offers anymore, doesn’t score, doesn’t assist, doesn’t tackle, very rarely passes forward…. Not great ingredients for a CM in the prem

Again Dyche is loyal to his players and his system. Ignores youth and potential.

[Jakubclaret]

I believe they have back up plans. I suspect they are looking at several players at the same time. Maybe Cornet is not a number one target for us, maybe he is the consolation prize if we don’t get Maitland Niles. Maybe Christie is the bronze medal.

I don’t know and nobody on this board does. That is my point.

But it does not stop posters here criticising the club after every item they read on Twitter

Yes that is true we don’t know for sure including your belief that we are looking at “several players at the same time”, but what we do know for certain 100% given previous transfer windows & this 1 so far is that things are extremely slow & very minimal regarding the requirements needed on that basis it doesn’t exactly fill one with confidence that things will happen according to plan assuming there is one.

[dibraidio]

Charlie Taylor was overloaded for both Brighton goals with no one covering or tackling the runners

People focus on Dwight McNeil's attacking performances but he's often guilty of not helping Charlie Taylor. For both goals he was the closest man to the attacking player when they received the ball but he made no effort to go with them he just trots back behind the play and slots into a position at the front of the box where he has 0 influence on what follows. Obviously the fact that the central two didn't deal with the threat isn't his fault but fact that there was no pressure on the player receiving the ball on their right wing is.