Trump/Russia Dossier

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:08 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Sorry I assumed you meant the up and coming clash at the border...
I can't help feeling something bad is going to happen between now and Tuesday its mental it really is..

Between now and Tuesday at the border? The asylum seekers are months away. I know you lot have been stirred into a scared frenzy over them but they're between 800 and 2000 miles away from the US border, depending on what part of the border they aim for.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:36 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Between now and Tuesday at the border? The asylum seekers are months away. I know you lot have been stirred into a scared frenzy over them but they're between 800 and 2000 miles away from the US border, depending on what part of the border they aim for.

It's not just the border the democrats are unhinged and I don't think there is a limit to what they will do then turn it on Trump !

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:45 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:It's not just the border the democrats are unhinged and I don't think there is a limit to what they will do then turn it on Trump !

How are they unhinged. Give examples.

Something that compares with Trump saying his army should slaughter people for throwing stones.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:How are they unhinged. Give examples.

Something that compares with Trump saying his army should slaughter people for throwing stones.

How about their behaviour throughout the Kavanaugh hearings. Utterly despicable. Now today we learn that one of the accusers has admitted to making it up. There are no words adequate to describe the depths to which the democrats will plumb.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:45 pm

Uwe Noble wrote:How about their behaviour throughout the Kavanaugh hearings. Utterly despicable. Now today we learn that one of the accusers has admitted to making it up. There are no words adequate to describe the depths to which the democrats will plumb.

They called for an investigation into very credible sexual assault claims. That's all they did. But you seem to think that's unhinged. The same kind of unhinged as Trump saying that people throwing stones should be shot dead.

You are a ******* lunatic.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:37 pm

Very credible sexual allegations! I've just told you that one of the accusers has admitted to lying. Another one is under Justice department investigation along with her lawyer. This is an utter travesty when you consider that democrats (along with you) were prepared to use these smears to literally destroy someone's life. And your response is to insult me. You've got nothing.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:26 am

They're already analyzing what will happen after the mid-terms this week. Congress is anticipated to turn slightly blue (Democratic), but the Senate to remain red (Republican). All of the Congressional seats are up for grab, but only 1/3 of Senate seats. Interestingly, that most red of all states, Montana, is expected to elect a Democrat to the Senate, by a small margin, but states such as Iowa, Colorado, and South Dakota, which have gone Democratic in Senate races in the past, are expected to be easy Republican wins this time. It'll be very interesting. I'll be glued to my TV.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:58 am

Uwe Noble wrote:Very credible sexual allegations! I've just told you that one of the accusers has admitted to lying. Another one is under Justice department investigation along with her lawyer. This is an utter travesty when you consider that democrats (along with you) were prepared to use these smears to literally destroy someone's life. And your response is to insult me. You've got nothing.

Yes, credibly accused by Christine Ford. So credible was the accusation that the Republicans were too scared to let the FBI interview her and Kavanaugh, or conduct anything close to a full investigation of her allegations.

By all means continue with your screeching about the idiot who lied when she said she was "Jane Doe" but that's just you trying to distract from the real, serious, and in all probability true accusation that Kavanaugh tried to rape Christine Ford. There's no explanation for Kavanaugh's lies, or his and the Republican's fear of a full investigation, unless what Ford is saying is true.

I hope this woman who has admitted to lying gets the book thrown at her, because i believe people who lie to accuse others of sexual assault should see prison time. And i believe Kavanaugh should also see prison time for his lies to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

It doesn't surprise me that people like you are happy to allow this attempted rapist into a position of power. What I don't know is whether it's more to do with you just not giving a **** about women, or whether you don't give a **** about liars - as long as it upsets the left. I think it's a combination.

bfcboyo falsely accused me of calling him a psychopath earlier, probably because he's misremembered what it was i actually said, but i want you to know that i really do think people like you are actual psychopaths who would take pleasure in "librul tears" when liberals complain loudly about things like what Kavanaugh is probably guilty of. I really believe that if Kavanaugh came out and admitted that Ford's allegations were true you'd love it because it would **** off people like me.

On the off-chance that you actually care that people can reasonably view you in such a bad light maybe you'd like to reconsider how you present yourself to the rest of us. Take some time for a little introspection and see if you can see in you all the ugliness and hatred that you project. If not, then i guess it's just who you are. But if you can, and you don't like what you see then i recommend you do something about it because the west is heading towards the kind of fascism we saw last century and you're on the wrong side if you want to be on the side of the good guys.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:22 am

ontario claret wrote:They're already analyzing what will happen after the mid-terms this week. Congress is anticipated to turn slightly blue (Democratic), but the Senate to remain red (Republican). All of the Congressional seats are up for grab, but only 1/3 of Senate seats. Interestingly, that most red of all states, Montana, is expected to elect a Democrat to the Senate, by a small margin, but states such as Iowa, Colorado, and South Dakota, which have gone Democratic in Senate races in the past, are expected to be easy Republican wins this time. It'll be very interesting. I'll be glued to my TV.

There are no senate seats up for election in either Iowa, Colorado or South Dakota so I imagine the republican incumbents there will have an easy time holding on to their seats

I'm pessimistic about the Dems chances. The polls look great and the forecasts look even better, but i think there will be even more direct Russian interference than 2 years ago. Republicans have gone out of their way to do absolutely nothing to bolster security of election machines. Machines that the Russians hacked two years ago and probably flipped votes even then. Not only have the Republicans done nothing to prevent Russian interference, they also did nothing in response to the hacking of 2016. They passed sanctions in congress but then Trump sat on them for months and refused to enforce them. It's inconceivable that Russia won't do everything they can to keep their puppets in complete control, and if that means flipping votes then who's going to hold them accountable?

The polls and forecasts can't account for that. I also don't think they can account for the massive voter suppression that's going on, again almost entirely by republicans (i only say "almost" because there might be a Democratic effort i don't know about).

I think if the Republicans hold onto control of everything it will be the final nail in the coffin of American democracy. And even if Democrats win the House it might not be enough to prevent America's decline into despotism/tyranny/authoritarianism/totalitarianism (take your pick). Already he wants to overturn constitutional amendments by executive decree and with Republicans in control, and completely abdicating their responsibility to be a check on his power, who's going to stop him? The supreme court? lol. He'll just pack it with more obedient judges if they don't give him what he wants.

Mid-post edit: There is one more chance America has if Republican's hold onto all their power and that's if Brazil goes full dictatorship first. That might (but probably not) scare enough cowardly Republicans into action if Trump starts to tip-ex out the constitutional amendments about birthright citizenship (14th), about the election of senators by popular vote rather than just them being appointed by governors(17th), presidential term limits (22nd). Those are three amendments to the constitution that Trump and/or the Right have expressed a desire to do away with. If Trump's Supreme Court judges allow him to get rid of one with the stroke of a pen, why not others?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:28 am

Trump has finally admitted that Russia stole the election for him

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6427808768" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd love to hear his defenders on here continue to deny this reality.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:57 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Trump has finally admitted that Russia stole the election for him

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6427808768" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd love to hear his defenders on here continue to deny this reality.

How much more proof do we need that being on the left involves losing your sense of humour?

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:58 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yes, credibly accused by Christine Ford. So credible was the accusation that the Republicans were too scared to let the FBI interview her and Kavanaugh, or conduct anything close to a full investigation of her allegations.

By all means continue with your screeching about the idiot who lied when she said she was "Jane Doe" but that's just you trying to distract from the real, serious, and in all probability true accusation that Kavanaugh tried to rape Christine Ford. There's no explanation for Kavanaugh's lies, or his and the Republican's fear of a full investigation, unless what Ford is saying is true.

I hope this woman who has admitted to lying gets the book thrown at her, because i believe people who lie to accuse others of sexual assault should see prison time. And i believe Kavanaugh should also see prison time for his lies to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

It doesn't surprise me that people like you are happy to allow this attempted rapist into a position of power. What I don't know is whether it's more to do with you just not giving a **** about women, or whether you don't give a **** about liars - as long as it upsets the left. I think it's a combination.

bfcboyo falsely accused me of calling him a psychopath earlier, probably because he's misremembered what it was i actually said, but i want you to know that i really do think people like you are actual psychopaths who would take pleasure in "librul tears" when liberals complain loudly about things like what Kavanaugh is probably guilty of. I really believe that if Kavanaugh came out and admitted that Ford's allegations were true you'd love it because it would **** off people like me.

On the off-chance that you actually care that people can reasonably view you in such a bad light maybe you'd like to reconsider how you present yourself to the rest of us. Take some time for a little introspection and see if you can see in you all the ugliness and hatred that you project. If not, then i guess it's just who you are. But if you can, and you don't like what you see then i recommend you do something about it because the west is heading towards the kind of fascism we saw last century and you're on the wrong side if you want to be on the side of the good guys.

Not one piece of corroboration

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:13 am

Uwe Noble wrote:Not one piece of corroboration

Kavanaugh's own calendar is a piece of corroboration. But you know this, you just deny reality because reality upsets you.

But i'm not going to let you get this thread deleted too. Unless you have something relevant to the topic then i won't be responding to your desperate attempts to legitimise the illegitimate.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:27 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Kavanaugh's own calendar is a piece of corroboration. But you know this, you just deny reality because reality upsets you.

But i'm not going to let you get this thread deleted too. Unless you have something relevant to the topic then i won't be responding to your desperate attempts to legitimise the illegitimate.

His high school calendar (which Kavanaugh produced as evidence that he didn't rape Dr "one drink" Ford) is corroboration that he raped multiple times?! You are going to have to produce a better argument if you want to be taken seriously.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:30 am

Pretty sure that I saw Iowa, Colorado, and South Dakota on the map they presented on CNN. I'm usually very good with my U.S. geography, but they didn't go through the list state by state. Maybe it was Kansas, not Colorado. They're both identical shapes.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:37 am

I tried to make love to several girls while I was drunk in university. One girl orgasmed on me on the dance floor. Another let me take her back to my room and remove her bra before she told me that she was saving herself for her future husband. Another walked off the dance floor on me when I couldn't learn the steps to the LA Walk fast enough. I guess all of that should always disqualify me from ever becoming a U.S. Supreme Court justice, although that last one was American.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:43 am

ontario claret wrote:Pretty sure that I saw Iowa, Colorado, and South Dakota on the map they presented on CNN. I'm usually very good with my U.S. geography, but they didn't go through the list state by state. Maybe it was Kansas, not Colorado. They're both identical shapes.

Nope. it wasn't Kansas either.

Are you sure they weren't talking about all the states without any Senate seats up for election?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:49 am

ontario claret wrote:I tried to make love to several girls while I was drunk in university. One girl orgasmed on me on the dance floor. Another let me take her back to my room and remove her bra before she told me that she was saving herself for her future husband. Another walked off the dance floor on me when I couldn't learn the steps to the LA Walk fast enough. I guess all of that should always disqualify me from ever becoming a U.S. Supreme Court justice, although that last one was American.

Can we have videos and photos please

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:54 am

The other thread dissapeared, but here is a good example of the US Media being completely impartial and only reporting facts

, just after they criticise Trump for his rhetoric.

Not divisive at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOvroMExPwU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:14 am

burnleymik wrote:The other thread dissapeared, but here is a good example of the US Media being completely impartial and only reporting facts , just after they criticise Trump for his rhetoric.

Not divisive at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOvroMExPwU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm just looking through some headlines now looking for all the people radicalised to commit terrorism by the media saying Trump is a racist based on his clear racism. I'll be back with links when i find them.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:41 am

This is how Trump's defenders work. They create a false equivalence and then only criticise one side even though that side is merely reacting to Trump. Trump called for unity and then straight away blames the victims of terrorism for the terrorism. Not a word from the likes of Mik about that. But when the victims refused to accept the blame people like Mik are right there to accuse them of being divisive. It's hard to describe this level of insanity without using the term "******* moronic beyond all understanding".

Trump can say he wants his military to slaughter migrants if they throw stones. Trump can put them into concentration camps. Trump can repeat the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that drove a guy so crazy with hate that he went to a Jewish place of worship and murdered 11 people. He can called the media and democrats the enemy of the people leading to one of his supporters trying to murder them with bombs. And not a ******* word from Trump's defenders until someone in the media says that Trump is dangerous then people like Mik will be along to say "see? Both sides!"

This is how fascism spreads and becomes tolerated. When the rest of us are sounding the alarm there will always be useful idiots who claim to be above it all ready and willing to do the fascists bidding by claiming that both sides are the same. Muddying the waters to make it look like the fascist is no more dangerous than the dissenter. Well, two years ago there were people like Mik saying that there won't be concentration camps and anyone who thinks there will be is a hysterical leftist who just hates Trump. Well, there are concentration camps and now he's openly talking about building more. He calls them "tent cities" to allow his useful idiots to deny the reality of what they are, but the rest of us know what they really are.

We've been warning about this guy for over 3 years now, and all he's ever done is justify our warnings.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:54 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:This is how Trump's defenders work. They create a false equivalence and then only criticise one side even though that side is merely reacting to Trump. Trump called for unity and then straight away blames the victims of terrorism for the terrorism. Not a word from the likes of Mik about that. But when the victims refused to accept the blame people like Mik are right there to accuse them of being divisive. It's hard to describe this level of insanity without using the term "******* moronic beyond all understanding".

There is something genuinely wrong with you. I have not and do not defend Trump, as I have said many times, but your absolute, unblinking bias, is incredible. You cannot see anything that people who oppose Trump are doing wrong and that almost makes you a fanatic to my mind. Your lack of perspective is quite worrying really.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:57 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:This is how Trump's defenders work. They create a false equivalence and then only criticise one side even though that side is merely reacting to Trump. Trump called for unity and then straight away blames the victims of terrorism for the terrorism. Not a word from the likes of Mik about that. But when the victims refused to accept the blame people like Mik are right there to accuse them of being divisive. It's hard to describe this level of insanity without using the term "******* moronic beyond all understanding".

Trump can say he wants his military to slaughter migrants if they throw stones. Trump can put them into concentration camps. Trump can repeat the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that drove a guy so crazy with hate that he went to a Jewish place of worship and murdered 11 people. He can called the media and democrats the enemy of the people leading to one of his supporters trying to murder them with bombs. And not a ******* word from Trump's defenders until someone in the media says that Trump is dangerous then people like Mik will be along to say "see? Both sides!"

This is how fascism spreads and becomes tolerated. When the rest of us are sounding the alarm there will always be useful idiots who claim to be above it all ready and willing to do the fascists bidding by claiming that both sides are the same. Muddying the waters to make it look like the fascist is no more dangerous than the dissenter. Well, two years ago there were people like Mik saying that there won't be concentration camps and anyone who thinks there will be is a hysterical leftist who just hates Trump. Well, there are concentration camps and now he's openly talking about building more. He calls them "tent cities" to allow his useful idiots to deny the reality of what they are, but the rest of us know what they really are.

We've been warning about this guy for over 3 years now, and all he's ever done is justify our warnings.

I am actually taking a screenshot of this post incase this thread gets removed. I think this shows exactly how a radical thinks and how they are brainwashed by the media and their own echo chambers.

Frightening.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:02 pm

Even Joseph Goebbels would have stopped repeating this Russian tripe by now..

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:19 pm

burnleymik wrote:There is something genuinely wrong with you. I have not and do not defend Trump, as I have said many times, but your absolute, unblinking bias, is incredible. You cannot see anything that people who oppose Trump are doing wrong and that almost makes you a fanatic to my mind. Your lack of perspective is quite worrying really.

I can see plenty of things wrong with people who oppose Trump. I just am not so stupid as to think that they are in any way comparable to what Trump is doing. The media reporting and commenting on Trump's fascistic language and tendencies is not anywhere near as dangerous as Trump's fascistic language and tendencies, and when you claim they are then you are giving support to fascism. You cal claim that you don't support him but your actions in defending him and deflecting from his evilness you are doing exactly what he wants you do do.

By all means think there's somethign wrong with me, but when Trump's supporters continue to murder Trump's opponents, and when Trumps actions and policies lead to the kind of fascism we defeated over 70 years ago, you'll be wishing you listened to those of us who were saying that the man shouting lugenpresse was the problem, not the free press.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:22 pm

burnleymik wrote:I am actually taking a screenshot of this post incase this thread gets removed. I think this shows exactly how a radical thinks and how they are brainwashed by the media and their own echo chambers.

Frightening.

It continues to creep. What was once mainstream is the radical now. The anti-fascist, anti-nazi is now the radical.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:28 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:It continues to creep. What was once mainstream is the radical now. The anti-fascist, anti-nazi is now the radical.

Anti-fascist, Anti-nazi is and always has been the norm. Normal people have the ability to see there are two sides to the whole mess in the US. Only the extremes of either side struggle to see anything different.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:37 pm

burnleymik wrote:Anti-fascist, Anti-nazi is and always has been the norm. Normal people have the ability to see there are two sides to the whole mess in the US. Only the extremes of either side struggle to see anything different.

You think i can't see that there is more than one side? Of course i can. I see one side spouting hatred by spreading fear of migrants, calling the left/the press/everyone who isn't them, the "enemy". I see the leader of one side encouraging and supporting violence against people who oppose him, and then i also see him spreading the same insane, anti-jewish conspiracy theories after one nazi murders a bunch of Jews. I see the president encouraging his army to slaughter migrants for throwing rocks, while he also sets up concentration camps for migrants.

I see fascists on one side, on another side (although they're really the same side) i see the complicit ***** who allow him to do this (Republicans), and on another side I see people like me screaming at the top of our lungs that this is all ******* dangerous.

And then, the final side, is you. The people who think they're above it all but actually they're just doing exactly what the fascists want them to do. They want you to "both sides" everything that the fascists do to make it seem like the people warning about the fascists are just as extreme as the fascists themselves. You fools.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:57 pm

You are lost mate. You really are. I do not think I am above anything, but you project all kinds of things onto me, which are not only untrue, but frankly they are bonkers.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 pm

burnleymik wrote:You are lost mate. You really are. I do not think I am above anything, but you project all kinds of things onto me, which are not only untrue, but frankly they are bonkers.

You complain that i'm projecting onto you things that aren't true yet you're the one saying that i've been radicalised.

Answer me this, who has radicalised me? And how?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:03 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You complain that i'm projecting onto you things that aren't true yet you're the one saying that i've been radicalised.

Answer me this, who has radicalised me? And how?

By the sounds of it you have done much of it on your own...

Mad as a box of frogs. I'll leave you frothing at your PC for a bit.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:03 pm

burnleymik wrote:There is something genuinely wrong with you. I have not and do not defend Trump, as I have said many times, but your absolute, unblinking bias, is incredible. You cannot see anything that people who oppose Trump are doing wrong and that almost makes you a fanatic to my mind. Your lack of perspective is quite worrying really.

I could not agree more. Thus guy is a fanatic. He still believes in the Russian collusion BS.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:17 pm

Uwe Noble wrote:I could not agree more. Thus guy is a fanatic. He still believes in the Russian collusion BS.

I could be wrong but i think even Mik finds you ridiculous. But what do I know. I'm a radical, apparently. You know, like the mail bomber. Like the synagogue shooter. Like the woman-hating Yoga class murderer. Like the racist supermarket killer. I'm a radical just like them because i oppose Trump.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I could be wrong but i think even Mik finds you ridiculous. But what do I know. I'm a radical, apparently. You know, like the mail bomber. Like the synagogue shooter. Like the woman-hating Yoga class murderer. Like the racist supermarket killer. I'm a radical just like them because i oppose Trump.

Right on cue you make my point. Thankyou.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:50 pm

It's beginning. Trump has requested the resignation of his AG Jeff Sessions and Sessions has submitted it.

Whoever replaces him will be responsible for the Mueller Investigation because Rosenstein was only in charge of it because Sessions had to recuse himself after it turned out he lied to congress about his Russia contacts during the Trump presidential transition.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:07 pm

Trump has replaced him with Matthew Whittaker, a critic of the Mueller investigation.

Banana republic stuff going on in the Trump administration. Not unexpected, i'm just surprised it happened literally the day after the mid-terms.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:10 pm

What do people think of this? I mean, regular people. Like, do they just think this is normal? What about Trump supporters? What's the logical explanation for this so quickly after the mid terms? And why isn't it being questioned? Was this on the cards?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:20 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What do people think of this? I mean, regular people. Like, do they just think this is normal? What about Trump supporters? What's the logical explanation for this so quickly after the mid terms? And why isn't it being questioned? Was this on the cards?

It's all over the news over there. It's only just happened.

It was on the cards, though there was uncertainty how Trump would do it. Would he order Rosenstein to fire Mueller and then fire Rosenstein when he refused, or would he fire Sessions and replace him with a loyalist who will protect him from the Mueller investigation? Well, we have our answer.
Trump has been furious with Sessions ever since he recused himself because Trump saw Sessions' job as being to protect Trump from things like the Mueller investigation.

I suspect he's doing it today because he knows that Mueller is unencumbered by the midterms and affecting the election, so Trump probably expects something big coming very soon. Either that or he has just been itching to do this and sees no downside that is worse than not doing it.
Trump clearly doesn't want this investigation to be completed and made public. If he is innocent then you have to ask yourself why he is so worried about the investigation being allowed to be completed?

I was gonna be getting an early night tonight, but now it's f5 o'clock.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:24 pm

Acting AG Matt Whitaker on CNN, July 2017: "I could see a scenario where Jeff Sessions is replaced with a recess appointment and that attorney general doesn’t fire Bob Mueller, but he just reduces his budget to so low that his investigation grinds to almost a halt.”

This guy is now in control of the Russia investigation.

Trump is clearly terrified.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:10 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Acting AG Matt Whitaker on CNN, July 2017: "I could see a scenario where Jeff Sessions is replaced with a recess appointment and that attorney general doesn’t fire Bob Mueller, but he just reduces his budget to so low that his investigation grinds to almost a halt.”

This guy is now in control of the Russia investigation.

Trump is clearly terrified.

Not as terrified as you clearly are. Eventually you will realize how politics in America work.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:17 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Not as terrified as you clearly are. Eventually you will realize how politics in America work.

lol. I know more than enough to be able to tell when someone is both corrupt as ****, and scared shitless. And i know enough to know that politics isn't working in America. Where is congress to restrain this moron?

Have you even once bothered to ask yourself why Trump has spent so much effort to discredit the Mueller investigation? Is that, in your opinion, the act of an innocent man?

Just yesterday he threatened Democrats. Warning them against investigating him. What innocent president does that?

I don't seem to remember Obama or Hillary threatening Republicans for their Benghazi witch-hunt, or the email investigation.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:23 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:lol. I know more than enough to be able to tell when someone is both corrupt as ****, and scared shitless. And i know enough to know that politics isn't working in America. Where is congress to restrain this moron?

Have you even once bothered to ask yourself why Trump has spent so much effort to discredit the Mueller investigation? Is that, in your opinion, the act of an innocent man?

Just yesterday he threatened Democrats. Warning them against investigating him. What innocent president does that?
I don't seem to remember Obama or Hillary threatening Republicans for their Benghazi witch-hunt, or the email investigation.

I dont seem to remember a US President called Hillary

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:28 pm

FCBurnley wrote:I dont seem to remember a US President called Hillary

I seem to remember her having to sit in front of congress for 11 hours while Republicans exploited the deaths of 4 people for political ends.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:38 pm

As I said she was never President. Think you are losing your mind. Sad news just out about Judge Ginsberg. 3 fractured ribs at 85 is not good. Hopefully she will make a full recovery.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:As I said she was never President. Think you are losing your mind. Sad news just out about Judge Ginsberg. 3 fractured ribs at 85 is not good. Hopefully she will make a full recovery.

I don't believe I ever said she was president. I think you're losing you mind.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:44 pm

Last para of post 691. Surely you have not lost the ability to read and comprehend what you write ? Its there fro everybody to read unless of course you use your last resort tactic of saying it was a joke.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:46 pm

Also, regarding RBG here's what your fellow Trump supporters had to say about her yesterday.

And in the last 30 minutes /r/the_donald has 6 threads already. They're positively giddy about the possibility of putting another sycophant on the court.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:48 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Last para of post 691. Surely you have not lost the ability to read and comprehend what you write ? Its there fro everybody to read unless of course you use your last resort tactic of saying it was a joke.

It was neither a joke, nor a statement to say that Hillary Clinton was president. It's a completely different sentence to the question i asked.

But you know that. You're just deflecting from the very good point i made. What innocent president acts like Trump? When did Obama or Hillary ever act like Trump?

Seriously. I'm asking you to point to an example of any previous president behaving like him when investigated, or when Obama or Hillary acted like him.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:55 pm

Stop digging mate. Seriously you are sounding stupid

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:59 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Stop digging mate. Seriously you are sounding stupid

I'll accept your lack of an answer to mean you can't think of any. Well, that you can think of one president who acted like Trump, but that he only hurts your cause.