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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by LaLigaClaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:23 pm

With supposed links to Clarke, Hamer, Flemming, Tresor, Vrankx, Lakonga, Maatsen, Tella, the lad from Espanyol and so forth where is all this money coming from ? We might also need another LB in addition to Maatsen. Perhaps we might see a number of outgoings soon, Wout, Taylor, Bastien, Chulinov, McNally, Cork ? its gonna be an exciting few weeks ahead.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by mdd2 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:25 pm

But it is looking like £££££££££££ in ££££ out

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm

I think there might be more outgoings than we all originally thought.

The more players we are linked to im starting to think the likes of Brownhill, Gudmundsson and Cork could all potentially be on the way out.

VK has shown he can be ruthless

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by burnmark » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:02 pm

Peacock Farrell gone to the Danish club on loan for the season.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:02 pm

BPF gone on season loan to Denmark.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:03 pm

Strange that it’s a loan move when he is out of contract in the summer

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:07 pm

Thought we might at least get a small fee for him

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by LaLigaClaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:14 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:03 pm
Strange that it’s a loan move when he is out of contract in the summer
It gets him off the wage bill though in the meantime.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:17 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:23 pm
With supposed links to Clarke, Hamer, Flemming, Tresor, Vrankx, Lakonga, Maatsen, Tella, the lad from Espanyol and so forth where is all this money coming from ? We might also need another LB in addition to Maatsen. Perhaps we might see a number of outgoings soon, Wout, Taylor, Bastien, Chulinov, McNally, Cork ? its gonna be an exciting few weeks ahead.
Not a transfer rumour. Move to other thread.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by LaLigaClaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:37 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:17 pm
Not a transfer rumour. Move to other thread.
So discussion around 9 possible incoming players and half a dozen players out is not a transfer discussion ?

You must be incredibly bored or perhaps had a couple of glasses too many.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Bigvince » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm
I think there might be more outgoings than we all originally thought.

The more players we are linked to im starting to think the likes of Brownhill, Gudmundsson and Cork could all potentially be on the way out.

VK has shown he can be ruthless
Why are you so desperate to get rid of Brownhill? 🤔
I think he’ll be around for a while

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Casper2 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:14 pm
It gets him off the wage bill though in the meantime.
Does it though ?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:04 pm

whiffa wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:19 pm
Second to Anthony Gordon for me, but I'd have Wilf at #2. :lol:
Everybody else is a street behind Albert Steptoe. He can fall over a blade of grass.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by spt_claret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:15 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:17 pm
Not a transfer rumour. Move to other thread.
"Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion."

This conversation policing we're getting is incredibly tiresome.
Least you're not like the user who says if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all- unless it's about someone he doesn't like in which case crack on and how dare you say otherwise.
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm
I think there might be more outgoings than we all originally thought.

The more players we are linked to im starting to think the likes of Brownhill, Gudmundsson and Cork could all potentially be on the way out.

VK has shown he can be ruthless
Brownhill's a tricky one. Brilliant last season but been hit-miss in the Prem previously, I think in a midfield 3 in a 433 he'd be solid (Still have a weird one about Bastien in this role, too) but I'm not sure he's a CDM or CAM at Prem level in 4231.
Cork, hero for us but his legs had gone for the first half of his last Premier League season, then the back half of last season, his technique and brain's still there but he was racking up the bookings in the Championship and PL pace is another thing again. I'd move him on. And Jay, 'one of our own' or not, he's had the same, 2 poor Prem seasons, a first half season last year where he looked like he had something left in the tank but that final injury seemed to finish him.
Gudmundsson and Taylor are the 2 old guard who I'd 100% keep. Taylor as we have nobody else in LB and as defensive, up-down fullback he's proven at this level. Gudmundsson as regardless of pace, he proved he can maintain his fitness last year, his technique is as good as any we have, and his newfound versatility could be useful. I'd rather have him as CDM than Cork in the Prem now, just for legs alone.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:18 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:15 pm
"Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion."

This conversation policing we're getting is incredibly tiresome.
Least you're not like the user who says if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all- unless it's about someone he doesn't like in which case crack on and how dare you say otherwise.
This, absolutely, THIS! ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Ampth7 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:23 pm
With supposed links to Clarke, Hamer, Flemming, Tresor, Vrankx, Lakonga, Maatsen, Tella, the lad from Espanyol and so forth where is all this money coming from ? We might also need another LB in addition to Maatsen. Perhaps we might see a number of outgoings soon, Wout, Taylor, Bastien, Chulinov, McNally, Cork ? its gonna be an exciting few weeks ahead.
How many of those names will we actually sign though? 3 or 4 maximum?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:01 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:18 pm
This, absolutely, THIS! ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
Apologies is the thread title is not clear. It 'discussion' about the transfer rumours, not the clubs accounting and spenditure.

If it is discussion on anything, then why do we need more than a single thread on this board?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by spt_claret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:18 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:01 pm
Apologies is the thread title is not clear. It 'discussion' about the transfer rumours, not the clubs accounting and spenditure.

If it is discussion on anything, then why do we need more than a single thread on this board?
It's 'Summer transfer window 2023' before the subheading. Money in money out and transfer fees are an aspect of every transfer window, bit silly to forbid that.

I've got to ask why you're so hellbent on shutting it down any aspect of the window you're not interested in discussing though- nobody makes you read it, just scroll past and ignore. You realise that by going 'stop talking about this' you're actually prolonging the very subject you don't want discussed and drawing more attention to it? Money was barely a footnote in the post you quoted, it was much more about players we might move on.

It's just odd and unhelpful.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Ampth7 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:19 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:01 pm
Apologies is the thread title is not clear. It 'discussion' about the transfer rumours, not the clubs accounting and spenditure.

If it is discussion on anything, then why do we need more than a single thread on this board?
I agree! Please post your complaints on a different thread as this one is for transfer rumours, links and discussion only.😉

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:24 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:18 pm
It's 'Summer transfer window 2023' before the subheading. Money in money out and transfer fees are an aspect of every transfer window, bit silly to forbid that.

I've got to ask why you're so hellbent on shutting it down any aspect of the window you're not interested in discussing though- nobody makes you read it, just scroll past and ignore. You realise that by going 'stop talking about this' you're actually prolonging the very subject you don't want discussed and drawing more attention to it? Money was barely a footnote in the post you quoted, it was much more about players we might move on.

It's just odd and unhelpful.
Perhaps because these discussions lead to 3+ pages of non-transfer discussion every time. Then when I check back in every 8 hours, I see 3+ pages of new posts and get excited to then wade through 3 pages of arguments.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:29 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:24 pm
Perhaps because these discussions lead to 3+ pages of non-transfer discussion every time. Then when I check back in every 8 hours, I see 3+ pages of new posts and get excited to then wade through 3 pages of arguments.
Best advice:

Don't get too excited, it's mostly a load of opinions. ;)
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:30 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:24 pm
Perhaps because these discussions lead to 3+ pages of non-transfer discussion every time. Then when I check back in every 8 hours, I see 3+ pages of new posts and get excited to then wade through 3 pages of arguments.
Maybe a message board isn’t for you then.

You can always just check in on Sky Sports football transfers page
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by spt_claret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:32 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:24 pm
Perhaps because these discussions lead to 3+ pages of non-transfer discussion every time. Then when I check back in every 8 hours, I see 3+ pages of new posts and get excited to then wade through 3 pages of arguments.
It's 4 pages now...

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:44 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:23 pm
With supposed links to Clarke, Hamer, Flemming, Tresor, Vrankx, Lakonga, Maatsen, Tella, the lad from Espanyol and so forth where is all this money coming from ? We might also need another LB in addition to Maatsen. Perhaps we might see a number of outgoings soon, Wout, Taylor, Bastien, Chulinov, McNally, Cork ? its gonna be an exciting few weeks ahead.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:49 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:24 pm
Perhaps because these discussions lead to 3+ pages of non-transfer discussion every time. Then when I check back in every 8 hours, I see 3+ pages of new posts and get excited to then wade through 3 pages of arguments.
When we sign someone it will appear on a new thread.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Ampth7 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:44 pm
Saudi Arabia :D
😂

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm
I think there might be more outgoings than we all originally thought.

The more players we are linked to im starting to think the likes of Brownhill, Gudmundsson and Cork could all potentially be on the way out.

VK has shown he can be ruthless
What is your obsession with selling Josh Brownhill? 🤣

Considering he was captain against Genk, he’s probably not going anywhere anytime soon, despite your seeming desire for it to happen
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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm
I think there might be more outgoings than we all originally thought.

The more players we are linked to im starting to think the likes of Brownhill, Gudmundsson and Cork could all potentially be on the way out.

VK has shown he can be ruthless

"The likes of"

So who are these likes of?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:48 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:30 pm
Maybe a message board isn’t for you then.

You can always just check in on Sky Sports football transfers page
They only post transfer that are close to already being confirmed.

It is the rumours of what might be that I follow this thread for.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:02 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:31 pm
"The likes of"

So who are these likes of?
He literally named them in his post.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:29 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:48 pm
They only post transfer that are close to already being confirmed.

It is the rumours of what might be that I follow this thread for.
I think the main purpose of this thread is to discuss rumours, links & discussion, however unlikely or likely any potential targets might be, obviously a lot of that will be guff, newspaper sport content filling but when that happens, opinions go back & forth determining whether it's likely or unlikely, I'm not sure if any sort of rigidity is imposed or needs to be imposed because even an inkling could transpire to be a signing.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:32 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:02 pm
He literally named them in his post.
I know, it's funny isn't it?
A bit like "your Brownhills" etc., etc., :D

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:18 pm

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Drosser than ever.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:07 am

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:23 pm
With supposed links to Clarke, Hamer, Flemming, Tresor, Vrankx, Lakonga, Maatsen, Tella, the lad from Espanyol and so forth where is all this money coming from ? We might also need another LB in addition to Maatsen. Perhaps we might see a number of outgoings soon, Wout, Taylor, Bastien, Chulinov, McNally, Cork ? its gonna be an exciting few weeks ahead.
Here’s an idea that hasn’t been discussed, maybe Clarke is seen as our left back, played Left wing back for Sunderland a few times last season.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:58 am

Chelsea, City and PSG after Olise from Palace. Hopefully he goes, Palace would be seriously weaker without him after already losing Zaha

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:07 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:26 pm
What is your obsession with selling Josh Brownhill? 🤣

Considering he was captain against Genk, he’s probably not going anywhere anytime soon, despite your seeming desire for it to happen
It’s more I’m trying to think of players that we can recoup some money on.

A bit of a guess that if we are to bring in 2 CMs etc…. I am not sure the club will want to keep another player that walks on a free in 12 months.

I think he either signs a new deal or we will try move him on.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:17 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:07 am
It’s more I’m trying to think of players that we can recoup some money on.

A bit of a guess that if we are to bring in 2 CMs etc…. I am not sure the club will want to keep another player that walks on a free in 12 months.

I think he either signs a new deal or we will try move him on.
It is becoming a familiar trait of players now to run their contracts down - they can then look at other offers that would bring considerably more money into their own pockets as they negotiate signing on fees

Looking at our player contracts it is suggested that there is an option to extend Brownhill's contract after this year

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:21 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:17 am
It is becoming a familiar trait of players now to run their contracts down - they can then look at other offers that would bring considerably more money into their own pockets as they negotiate signing on fees

Looking at our player contracts it is suggested that there is an option to extend Brownhill's contract after this year
If there is an option to extend then it would make sense he stays. However one thing I will say is I can’t see that suggestion anywhere?

Given the amount of money we are spending I do think there’s a couple of players we won’t expect to leave that might. A month a go I didn’t think there would be any chance Gudmundsson leaves but now I am thinking he could be one the club are thinking of recouping some cash on.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by taio » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:30 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:21 am
If there is an option to extend then it would make sense he stays. However one thing I will say is I can’t see that suggestion anywhere?

Given the amount of money we are spending I do think there’s a couple of players we won’t expect to leave that might. A month a go I didn’t think there would be any chance Gudmundsson leaves but now I am thinking he could be one the club are thinking of recouping some cash on.
Think there is a 12 months' option on both Brownhill and JBG.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ervi34 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:07 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 pm
I think there might be more outgoings than we all originally thought.

The more players we are linked to im starting to think the likes of Brownhill, Gudmundsson and Cork could all potentially be on the way out.

VK has shown he can be ruthless
Central midfield is our weak spot at the moment and we need at least 2 players who can play there. Not sure how offloading players who actually play there helps us.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:16 am

taio wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:30 am
Think there is a 12 months' option on both Brownhill and JBG.
If there is then they will defo stay.

I just can’t see that information anywhere. The club usually announces that when the sign it.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:17 am

ervi34 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:07 am
Central midfield is our weak spot at the moment and we need at least 2 players who can play there. Not sure how offloading players who actually play there helps us.
I think the presumption is the outgoings will allow for the incomings on a pretty much like for like basis in a positional sense but slight upgrades.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:18 am

ervi34 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:07 am
Central midfield is our weak spot at the moment and we need at least 2 players who can play there. Not sure how offloading players who actually play there helps us.
The thought process is if we bring in Vrankx and Lokonga then I was thinking one of them three might be getting moved out to recoup some money.

As that would leave us with cullen, Vrankx, Lokonga, then two of the other three names mentioned

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:24 am

So are we saying that Cullen and Brownhill don't play CM now? or are we splitting to a diamond and having DCM ACM? Considering Cullen got player of the year and played very well in my eyes and knows the system inside out hence why VK brought him here, and Brownhill being Cpt I'm not sure where the cries for new CM is coming from unless of course you feel they are not good enough and they are going to be sold? I get the need for back up which we have in Cork, and JBG but I wouldn't be thinking marquee signings?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by taio » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:28 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:16 am
If there is then they will defo stay.

I just can’t see that information anywhere. The club usually announces that when the sign it.
Shown on the squad list on this website

There's these by way of example:

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... s-new-deal

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skyspo ... istol-city

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:33 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:24 am
So are we saying that Cullen and Brownhill don't play CM now? or are we splitting to a diamond and having DCM ACM? Considering Cullen got player of the year and played very well in my eyes and knows the system inside out hence why VK brought him here, and Brownhill being Cpt I'm not sure where the cries for new CM is coming from unless of course you feel they are not good enough and they are going to be sold? I get the need for back up which we have in Cork, and JBG but I wouldn't be thinking marquee signings?
Pretty certain VK sees Cullen as a starter and is looking for an upgrades elsewhere in midfield. He’s already mentioned the need for a more physical presence and given the links it appears we are after at least one or two defensive midfielders and at least one attacking midfielder.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:34 am

taio wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:28 am
Shown on the squad list on this website

There's these by way of example:

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... s-new-deal

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skyspo ... istol-city
Oh nice it appears you’re right. There is an extra year option.

Got to imagine if they are staying that’s get triggered

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:36 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:33 am
Pretty certain VK sees Cullen as a starter and is looking for an upgrades elsewhere in midfield. He’s already mentioned the need for a more physical presence and given the links it appears we are after at least one or two defensive midfielders and at least one attacking midfielder.
So where do you think that leaves Brownhill who VK has as Cpt?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:37 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:36 am
So where do you think that leaves Brownhill who VK has as Cpt?
Probably rotation with one of the new signings. I don’t think VK sees the captaincy role in a traditional manner where the captain is certain starter every single week.
Can’t remember where but I swear I read somewhere VK saying that he doesn’t see his team with one captain but a number of leaders all over the pitch where anyone can take the captaincy at any point.

Plus wasn’t cork captain last year?

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