Summer transfer window

[burnley007]

This is the sad thing for both Burnley and Sunderland fans. One one side you have our fans, who I think understand all too much just how hard the PL has become, which almost sets you down the route of expecting relegation. On the other side you have Sunderland fans, who after an 8 year absence seriously believe they can compete. The fact is they're miles behind. They finished 24 points behind us last season and have lost their best player in my opinion (Bellingham was brilliant at the Turf). They'll really struggle judging from their recruitment. They'll do well to hit 20 points. Us and Leeds will do well to make 30. It's a sad reflection of PL. Fingers crossed Wolves and Bournemouth fall apart!

It's what the FA want though, keep the money where 'it belongs'. It makes the League more saleable around the world.
Although they would probably like to see Leeds stay up.

[Tall Paul]

Leeds are signing Calvert-Lewin

[GetIntoEm]

Leeds are signing Calvert-Lewin

Funniest thing I've seen all summer.

[RVclaret]

Funniest thing I've seen all summer.

What’s funny about it?

[GetIntoEm]

What’s funny about it?

£150k a week for a player like that. Glad it's not us

[RVclaret]

£150k a week for a player like that. Glad it's not us

Where have those wages been reported in this deal?

[SalouClaret]

Bet Victor have Burnley priced up at 33/1 as a probable destination for Vardy so that is probably a non starter to be honest.

Stick 20 quid on. He'd be 5/1 within minutes

[GetIntoEm]

Where have those wages been reported in this deal?

All over the internet

[RVclaret]

All over the internet

Link for his wages at Leeds?

[jrgbfc]

You`d think if we really wanted Sargent we could offer Benson as a good sweetener with how good he was at that level under Kompany.

[GetIntoEm]

Link for his wages at Leeds?

Just Google it if you're that interested, I'm not your PA

[RVclaret]

Just Google it if you're that interested, I'm not your PA

Nothing comes up for his wages at Leeds, seems you made that up.

Anyway, this signing seems a similar risk to Broja, both have had serious injury issues, they are signing him on a free with likely higher wages, we have paid £10-15m on likely lower wages.

[ksrclaret]

Just Google it if you're that interested, I'm not your PA

Ooft, meeow!

[northernpowerhouse]

Leeds are signing Calvert-Lewin

Wonder if that means they're not in for Sargent any more.

[Ptgclaret]

150k for Calvert Lewin?

It's only the same as signing a proven Premier League quality striker, (but bad injury record) on a 2 year deal for 15 million quid and no wages.

150k a week with no upfront fee seems reasonable.

We've just spent 20ish million, and wages on an unproven player with barely any goals in years and a bad injury record.

Both are gambles, but one deffinatelt has goals in him.

[Lakeland Claret]

150k for Calvert Lewin?

It's only the same as signing a proven Premier League quality striker, (but bad injury record) on a 2 year deal for 15 million quid and no wages.

150k a week with no upfront fee seems reasonable.

We've just spent 20ish million, and wages on an unproven player with barely any goals in years and a bad injury record.
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Both are gambles, but one deffinatelt has goals in him.

Suppose to be £10 plus £5 on conditions for Broja. Dcl might cause problems with wages paid to rest of squad ?

[ab1882]

150k a week with no upfront fee seems reasonable.
We've just spent 20ish million, and wages on an unproven player with barely any goals in years and a bad injury record.

Differences are DCL has no re-sale value, Bjora hopefully does. DCL has persistent hamstring issues, very unlikely to just go away.
Still, when he plays he's very good at holding the ball up and will no doubt bag against us.

[Big Vinny K]

Differences are DCL has no re-sale value, Bjora hopefully does. DCL has persistent hamstring issues, very unlikely to just go away.
Still, when he plays he's very good at holding the ball up and will no doubt bag against us.

Those wages are madness and his injury record is not great recently.

But when he played Burnley that season under VK he was streets ahead of any of our players

[BurnleyFC]

150k for Calvert Lewin?

It's only the same as signing a proven Premier League quality striker, (but bad injury record) on a 2 year deal for 15 million quid and no wages.

150k a week with no upfront fee seems reasonable.

We've just spent 20ish million, and wages on an unproven player with barely any goals in years and a bad injury record.

Both are gambles, but one deffinatelt has goals in him.

Reasonable?

He’s been **** for a good while now and has no resale value.

[kentonclaret]

Reasonable?

He’s been **** for a good while now and has no resale value.

The term “for a good while now” certainly applies more to Broja than it does Calvert-Lewin.
DCL scored 7 goals and provided 2 assists for Everton in the 2023-24 season but you have to go back to 2021-22 to find any worthwhile contributions from Broja.

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Does that mean Bamford and his violin might be returning to us?

[billyhamilton82]

The term “for a good while now” certainly applies more to Broja than it does Calvert-Lewin.
DCL scored 7 goals and provided 2 assists for Everton in the 2023-24 season but you have to go back to 2021-22 to find any worthwhile contributions from Broja.

2 of those 7 goal were penalties and last season he scored 2 in 26 games.

7 goals from open play in 58 games for a 28, nearly 29 year old isn't £150k a week territory IMO.

Sounds like he's got the same agent a Brownhill

[Pearcey]

There’s no talk of Sargent coming to Burnley from down here in Norfolk. He certainly isn’t pushing for a move. I know that he wants to go to the premier league though. I suspect he’ll end up moving at the end of the window if he does at all.

[Ptgclaret]

The term “for a good while now” certainly applies more to Broja than it does Calvert-Lewin.
DCL scored 7 goals and provided 2 assists for Everton in the 2023-24 season but you have to go back to 2021-22 to find any worthwhile contributions from Broja.

Exactly this.

Also, If DCL has 1 great season next season with anyone, such as 10+ goals, you know for a fact a club will be in to buy him.

Personally, if I had to pay 15+ million plus wages for Broja, or take DCL on a free and pay him 150pw, I know which I'd rather go.

Not that it matters, this is just pure speculation about a player we're not in for.

Whoever lines up up front for us, I'll cheer them just as much as I cheered Andy Payton while they play for us.

[CrosspoolClarets]

DL and DCL both now seem to be at the stage where they have to lower their sights and take a risk with a move.

The wages alone will be a PSR problem when the promoted clubs cannot make as big a loss as the established clubs (unfairly). With us, as we showed with Traff, we can flog a young player to get us back on track for PSR. So I think this move limits who else DL will buy, and as said it is a risk that he will stay fit for enough games to make a difference to them. Risks can pan out either way of course and it may be a masterstroke. But it is hard to see DCL suddenly transforming with age into a fully fit thoroughbred.

[GetIntoEm]

We didn't sell Trafford because of PSR, we sold him because he wanted to leave

[dibraidio]

The term “for a good while now” certainly applies more to Broja than it does Calvert-Lewin.
DCL scored 7 goals and provided 2 assists for Everton in the 2023-24 season but you have to go back to 2021-22 to find any worthwhile contributions from Broja.

Broja is still young though, having said that everyone has written Benson off because he's done very little since 2022-23. I really hope Broja can reproduce the form that he had at Vitesse and Southampton. I presume that Parker is working in training to play to his strengths. In truth DCL and Broja are both gambles but Broja has the potential to become a salable asset where as DCL doesn't.

[Jakubclaret]

Broja is still young though, having said that everyone has written Benson off because he's done very little since 2022-23. I really hope Broja can reproduce the form that he had at Vitesse and Southampton. I presume that Parker is working in training to play to his strengths. In truth DCL and Broja are both gambles but Broja has the potential to become a salable asset where as DCL doesn't.

That's true regarding the saleable asset but it's mindful to remember as a free agent they aren't shelling out anything for him in the first place (wages aside) so I can't see any advantages regarding one over the other.

[agreenwood]

DCL was injured for almost half of Everton’s games last season. He didn’t miss many the year before, but in 22/23 his missed 29 games and 33 the season before that.

He’s scored 17 total Premier League goals in the last 4 seasons.

[Jakubclaret]

DCL was injured for almost half of Everton’s games last season. He didn’t miss many the year before, but in 22/23 his missed 29 games and 33 the season before that.

He’s scored 17 total Premier League goals in the last 4 seasons.

Hand on heart providing both are fit & firing as extremely difficult as that is to imagine. Who would you back to score goals DCL or broja?

[agreenwood]

Hand on heart providing both are fit & firing as extremely difficult as that is to imagine. Who would you back to score goals DCL or broja?

No idea, but DCL was fit for most of the 2023/24 seasons and hardly set the world alight.

Perhaps his best days are just behind him. Only so many injuries you can come back from as you approach your 30s.

[Jakubclaret]

No idea, but DCL was fit for most of the 2023/24 seasons and hardly set the world alight.

Perhaps his best days are just behind him. Only so many injuries you can come back from as you approach your 30s.

He's done it though before inconsistently whereas broja is yet to. I fancy DCL to chip in with some important goals due to him being about longer abit more know how I'm not certain on broja.

[ecc]

I hate to break it to but some people don't like work & if the opportunity presents itself to some people to be shy they'll take it.

Go for it, Norman!

[kentonclaret]

Leeds United scored 26 more goals than Burnley during the last Championship season and are more likely to be on the front foot and showing attacking intent than Scott Parker’s Burnley. On that basis alone I would expect DCL to be presented with, and convert, more scoring opportunities than Broja. Providing both stay injury free, of course.

[CrosspoolClarets]

We didn't sell Trafford because of PSR, we sold him because he wanted to leave

Wouldn’t surprise me if both are true.

What it means is that it is 100% certain we have more flexibility now or in January than we would have had without the sale. Not just in pure cash terms but in PSR terms. I don’t see Leeds having the same flexibility due to this kind of deal, and that may, only may, cost them.

Our relatively modest transfer fees can be spread over the life of a contract (up to 5 years max) so it will tend to be wages that have the biggest impact, particularly if a player is on £150k per week.

Long and short of it, I think we are doing the best approach to allow us to be fully flexible in January and have a good stab at staying up.

[jojomk1]

Leeds United scored 26 more goals than Burnley during the last Championship season and are more likely to be on the front foot and showing attacking intent than Scott Parker’s Burnley. On that basis alone I would expect DCL to be presented with, and convert, more scoring opportunities than Broja. Providing both stay injury free, of course.

Not sure you are allowed to show some common sense on here if you're talking Leeds or Sunderland

[kentonclaret]

Not sure you are allowed to show some common sense on here if you're talking Leeds or Sunderland

Let’s face it somebody has to

[Tricky Trevor]

Kone, mentioned on here earlier, has gone from Wycombe to QPR for 2.75m.

[Jakubclaret]

Leeds United scored 26 more goals than Burnley during the last Championship season and are more likely to be on the front foot and showing attacking intent than Scott Parker’s Burnley. On that basis alone I would expect DCL to be presented with, and convert, more scoring opportunities than Broja. Providing both stay injury free, of course.

The like for like question I asked was with the same setup.

[kentonclaret]

The like for like question I asked was with the same setup.

Sorry, I missed the phrase “with the same setup” in your original post. Probably because it wasn’t there.

[Jakubclaret]

Sorry, I missed the phrase “with the same setup” in your original post. Probably because it wasn’t there.

It is my fault for not stating the obvious but that still doesn't answer the question?