January transfer window rumours.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:20 pm

Targetman wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:13 pm
I haven't forgotten anything!

He was never consistent enough to be the best U21 player in England never mind Europe, arguably.

Yes he had obvious skill, some lovely touches at times, but never on a consistent basis which ultimately, along with his reported attitude problems, led to him dropping down the pecking order at his club.

He won PFA young player of the year twice, was in the PFA team of the year twice, scored 18 in his best Premier League season, bizarre to claim he was never consistently good.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:43 pm

Came to Turf Moor 4 or 5 years ago with Spurs just before Christmas. Easy 0-3 for them and he was right at the top of his game then.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:44 pm

Targetman wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:13 pm
I haven't forgotten anything!

He was never consistent enough to be the best U21 player in England never mind Europe, arguably.

Yes he had obvious skill, some lovely touches at times, but never on a consistent basis which ultimately, along with his reported attitude problems, led to him dropping down the pecking order at his club.

He was hugely consistent for about three years - at MK Dons and then Spurs.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:55 pm

Targetman wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:13 pm
I haven't forgotten anything!

He was never consistent enough to be the best U21 player in England never mind Europe, arguably.

Yes he had obvious skill, some lovely touches at times, but never on a consistent basis which ultimately, along with his reported attitude problems, led to him dropping down the pecking order at his club.

19 goal involvements in 2017-18, 18 PL goals and 7 assists in 2016-17, 19 goal involvements in 33 games in 2015-16.

He wasn't a striker, a young midfielder. Enormous talent and was performing consistently for years.

Something suddenly happened where he wasn't that good anymore, maybe he just peaked early? not sure why people are so quick to jump to ''poor attitude''. I think it's alot deeper than that.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:07 pm

Surridge did very little against Blackpool today. Really hope we can find a better striker than him.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:12 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:07 pm
Surridge did very little against Blackpool today. Really hope we can find a better striker than him.

Missed from about 6 yds.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:14 pm

We're bound to replace the 3 who have moved on...
exciting times

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:16 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:07 pm
Surridge did very little against Blackpool today. Really hope we can find a better striker than him.

Weghorst ?

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:22 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:07 pm
Surridge did very little against Blackpool today. Really hope we can find a better striker than him.

Just saw the highlights.......missed 3 sitters.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:57 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:22 pm
Just saw the highlights.......missed 3 sitters.

I saw that. Not a good outing!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:10 pm

I don't think we really need another striker, unless we lose Tella.
Barnes and Rodriguez have the nous to lead the line, and our other forward options have plenty of goal threat and outstanding skill on the ball.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:16 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:10 pm
I don't think we really need another striker, unless we lose Tella.
Barnes and Rodriguez have the nous to lead the line, and our other forward options have plenty of goal threat and outstanding skill on the ball.

Disagree we need some forward planning both Barnes and Jay Rod are coming to the end of their careers and neither are going to cut it at the top level should we as it’s looking get promoted.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:19 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:16 pm
Disagree we need some forward planning both Barnes and Jay Rod are coming to the end of their careers and neither are going to cut it at the top level should we as it’s looking get promoted.

Yes, that is probably correct in the longer term, but not a necessity for our potential promotion.
I wonder what will happen with Dervisoglu?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:37 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:19 pm
Yes, that is probably correct in the longer term, but not a necessity for our potential promotion.
I wonder what will happen with Dervisoglu?

Agree but hopefully we are planning ahead. Dervisoglu I’d expect to go back if we bring in a couple of permanent strikers.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:29 pm

Surridge doesn't look like a striker on MOTD!

Cap · Post by **Cap** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:49 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:29 pm
Surridge doesn't look like a striker on MOTD!

We shouldn't judge from highlights of 1 game but he looked awful

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:16 am

Cap wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:49 pm
We shouldn't judge from highlights of 1 game but he looked awful

Hope Pace was watching!!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:58 am

From Nixon today

‘Burnley will let striker Ashley Barnes move on if they find a replacement

Experienced Barnes is seeing less game time this season and Vincent Kompany is prepared to allow him to move if he slips further out of the plans.

Clarets could also allow centre half Luke McNally move on loan for games if they bring in a more experienced replacement for the season.

Burnley are trying for Nottingham Forest striker Sam Surridge but the price is too high. They have already stepped back from bidding big for Coventry’s Viktor Gyokeres.’

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:16 am

Do the news from Nixon isn’t really news, it’s just what’s been said for the last week on social media for free and he’s charging people to read that

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:21 am

Lancs live reporting we aren’t interested in surridge at the moment

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:42 am

Not sure anyone who directly monetises football rumours has a huge amount of credibility.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:45 am

Charging people for saying Burnley could let barnes go if they get a striker in

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:46 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:42 am
Not sure anyone who directly monetises football rumours has a huge amount of credibility.

Tbf he was the first to report over 50% of our summer transfers.

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:48 am

Ben Brereton Diez anyone?
They want 15 million reportedly. He'd fit into our system and from what I've seen would certainly be up to playing in the Prem.
That would cause a stir in East Lancs for sure

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:53 am

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:48 am
Ben Brereton Diez anyone?
They want 15 million reportedly. He'd fit into our system and from what I've seen would certainly be up to playing in the Prem.
That would cause a stir in East Lancs for sure

No thanks, don’t want to spend 15m on a bench warmer

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:54 am

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:48 am
Ben Brereton Diez anyone?
They want 15 million reportedly. He'd fit into our system and from what I've seen would certainly be up to playing in the Prem.
That would cause a stir in East Lancs for sure

The slight issue with BBD is that he’s not really a centre forward. He plays his best football off the left and when he’s played as a number 9 for Rovers he doesn’t have anywhere near the same impact. We need a number 9.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:10 am

Genuinely funny that people pay for football transfer rumours. Biggest mugs around.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:13 am

Burnley are seeking a striker with added competition up front their top priority this month. A host of players have been linked but it’s understood the Clarets are not interested in pursuing Sam Surridge at Nottingham Forest while they will be priced out of a move for Coventry City’s Viktor Gyokeres. Burnley made several offers for Michael Obafemi of Swansea on deadline day in the summer and remain interest in the Republic of Ireland international while the Clarets are also keeping tabs on Bristol City’s Antoine Semenyo.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:15 am

So both Surridge and Gyokeres unlikely then.

Wonder if Barnes’ performance yesterday has changed VK’s mind on letting him go anyway.

With him being out of contract at the end of the season, I still think it’s wise to bring in his replacement and get that player up to speed with the system prior to the Prem.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:28 am

If we can’t get Gyokeres, which it sounds like we can’t, I’d like us to go for Stewart at Sunderland.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:28 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:46 am
Tbf he was the first to report over 50% of our summer transfers.

His rumours are generic half the time from what’s posted on here - “Barnes might be allowed to leave if Burnley find an alternative” etc.

To get more subscribers he needs lots of stories. Half of them will either be made up or so vague that they hardly even class as news.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:39 am

MDWat wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:28 am
If we can’t get Gyokeres, which it sounds like we can’t, I’d like us to go for Stewart at Sunderland.

Seems to know where the net is. Reported 10m fee for someone with a dozen games at this levels seems high though?

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:42 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:39 am
Seems to know where the net is. Reported 10m fee for someone with a dozen games at this levels seems high though?

I mentioned him yesterday - was warned off by my Sunderland supporting mate he thinks a lot of him ha. But if Sunderland think they'll make the playoffs, I don't think £10m would be enough. 26 in 49 in League 1 and 35 in 68 overall for Sunderland (according to Wiki)

johnnyjones · Post by **johnnyjones** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:07 pm

quoonbeatz wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:10 am
Genuinely funny that people pay for football transfer rumours. Biggest mugs around.

The modern day clubcall, people using that back in the day always amazed me

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:32 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:58 am
From Nixon today

‘Burnley will let striker Ashley Barnes move on if they find a replacement

Experienced Barnes is seeing less game time this season and Vincent Kompany is prepared to allow him to move if he slips further out of the plans.

Clarets could also allow centre half Luke McNally move on loan for games if they bring in a more experienced replacement for the season.

Burnley are trying for Nottingham Forest striker Sam Surridge but the price is too high. They have already stepped back from bidding big for Coventry’s Viktor Gyokeres.’

That is a rubbish article and obviously written by someone who has no idea that Ashley Barnes has played almost every match and is 2nd to Jay Rodriguez but assured of minutes.

They would not have seen him in action yesterday, either!
He is 10 of Surridge and much more of an eye for goal.

TPClaret · Post by **TPClaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:35 pm

Can’t see McNally going out on loan. Most likely to pick injuries up as the season goes on. Need a big squad for this league.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:42 pm

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:48 am
Ben Brereton Diez anyone?
They want 15 million reportedly. He'd fit into our system and from what I've seen would certainly be up to playing in the Prem.
That would cause a stir in East Lancs for sure

£15m for a lad who can walk for free in a few months they've no chance of getting anywhere close to that.

Burnley certainly won't pay that quite rightly, and any interested PL clubs will just hold off and sign him on a free when his contract expires.

As BBD is under 24 they may get a development fee, but it won't be remotely near £15m.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:42 pm

Interesting twist coming from Forest, apparently we cant raise the funds to buy surridge and haven’t a pot to **** in.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2023/ ... -surridge/

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:59 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:42 pm
Interesting twist coming from Forest, apparently we cant raise the funds to buy surridge and haven’t a pot to **** in.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2023/ ... -surridge/

A title like that is purely for clicks, we just don’t think he’s worth forest price tag

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:01 pm

That Forest article is dodgy as we are clearly after a buy not a loan, and hence may indeed not have the cash.

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:42 pm

You would think that VK would have a Belgium\foreign based bargain cf in mind perhaps?

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:00 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:42 pm
Interesting twist coming from Forest, apparently we cant raise the funds to buy surridge and haven’t a pot to **** in.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2023/ ... -surridge/

If we had a pot we’d be closer to ******* in it than Surridge was to scoring yesterday.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:07 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:42 pm
Interesting twist coming from Forest, apparently we cant raise the funds to buy surridge and haven’t a pot to **** in.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2023/ ... -surridge/

They’ve managed to conjure up that from Nixon saying ‘the price is too high’. Got to love tabloid journalism.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:08 pm

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:48 am
Ben Brereton Diez anyone?
They want 15 million reportedly. He'd fit into our system and from what I've seen would certainly be up to playing in the Prem.
That would cause a stir in East Lancs for sure

If his performance in the derby was anything to go by, I wouldn’t want to pay £1.5m for him.

Big Vinny K · Post by **Big Vinny K** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:37 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:42 pm
Interesting twist coming from Forest, apparently we cant raise the funds to buy surridge and haven’t a pot to **** in.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2023/ ... -surridge/

I stopped reading at “fringe talisman” !

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:06 pm

Forest asset. Move on. Note under clubs not to deal with.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:42 pm

HiThere wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:42 am
I mentioned him yesterday - was warned off by my Sunderland supporting mate he thinks a lot of him ha. But if Sunderland think they'll make the playoffs, I don't think £10m would be enough. 26 in 49 in League 1 and 35 in 68 overall for Sunderland (according to Wiki)

He’s only got 6mths left on contract so they wouldn’t be getting much more than that

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:54 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:42 pm
He’s only got 6mths left on contract so they wouldn’t be getting much more than that

Got a year option to extend I think

Claretnick · Post by **Claretnick** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:59 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:54 pm
Got a year option to extend I think

Just seen on Chronicle live that Sunderland took up the option to extend by 12 months whilst they try to agree a new deal.
Seems Crystal Palace are showing some interest in him.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:42 pm

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:06 pm
Forest asset. Move on. Note under clubs not to deal with.

We should have learned that after the Lansbury saga