Dyche ------->Palace

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:49 am

Longsider wrote:This just won't go away. We can't start to recruit new players until everyone knows who our manager is going to be.

They have already had meetings to discuss the players that we are going after. Dyche was present at that meeting and, unless he's a bloody good actor, he's going nowhere! That was from a bloke who is involved in the recruitment (I can't remember his name) at the fixtures launch breakfast.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:21 am

Strikes me as a conservative type, Mr Dyche. Will he be tempted by a smallish incremental step forward ? Or his he more likely to settle for the security of the framework? Despite the obvious issues facing us in what will be an even tougher season lying ahead.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:45 am

Sunday Times reports Pellegrino to Palace.

Sean Dyche doesn't get a mention for the vacancy at either CP or Soton.

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bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:13 am

From day one it was newspaper speculation to fill column inches.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:37 am

Tend to agree that it's all newspaper speculation and fills a few column inches.
One would have thought that if Palace were seriously interested they would have
approached Dyche and the club by now.

Don't they need to ask the club whether they can speak to Dyche?
As far as I know the club are aware of possible interest and have offered,
or are considering offering Dyche a better deal if Palace come in.

Whether that offer has actually been made or is still on the table is unknown.
Presumably the latter as there hasn't been any news or confirmation that it is
or has been accepted by Dyche.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:26 pm

Why are people still talking about this if it happens so be it we move on. But we have been told by at least 1 Palace fan a few weeks ago on this thread that it is likely to be pelegrino ( not sure I have spelt that right butshit happens)

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:49 pm

Palace will be starting the season without a manager at this rate. It's turning into a saga.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:54 pm

Commy wrote:Palace will be starting the season without a manager at this rate. It's turning into a saga.

This is what happens when a middling Prem/Champ level club decides to "go after" a manager rather than invite applications.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Last gasp effort.... Brace yourselves....
http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/c ... story.html

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:07 pm

IanMcL wrote:Last gasp effort.... Brace yourselves....
http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/c ... story.html

So this local rag are reporting what the Express were reporting --- very lazy journalism.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:08 pm

Longsider wrote:This just won't go away. We can't start to recruit new players until everyone knows who our manager is going to be.

We have a manager but in any case the recruitment process is already some way down the line

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:09 pm

IanMcL wrote:Last gasp effort.... Brace yourselves....
http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/c ... story.html

Just trying to get clicks by copying a national report

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We have a manager but in any case the recruitment process is already some way down the line

Now you have me worried! Recruitment - players or recruitment - manager?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:45 pm

Some folk will be in meltdown.

It is rather frustrating though.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:48 pm

IanMcL wrote:Now you have me worried! Recruitment - players or recruitment - manager?

Burnley have had great success hiring Sean Dyche.

There are two Premier League clubs without managers, Crystal Palace and Southampton. Based on Burnley's successful hiring of Sean Dyche our recruitment team have now been asked to assist both Crystal Palace and Southampton in hiring new managers for their clubs. Burnley is now going into the manager "head hunting" business. Our Board will be advising Crystal Palace and Southampton on their search and interview process. Sean Dyche will be assisting the shortlisted candidates on how to prepare and deliver a successful power-point presentation. We've also arranged for a voice coach to assist the "non-English" speaking managers how to speak in a "deep" English accent.

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dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:40 pm

Longsider wrote:This just won't go away. We can't start to recruit new players until everyone knows who our manager is going to be.

That would be never. At what point can Sean Dyche guarantee that no matter what job he is offered, he won't take it?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:51 pm

Burnley Express reporting Palace to make move for Dyche this week.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:23 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Burnley Express reporting Palace to make move for Dyche this week.

Burnley Express just seem to be copying from elsewhere but I think this week will prove to be the key as to whether he stays or goes.

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:24 pm

Surely he won't wish to be Palace's third choice

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:34 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Burnley Express reporting Palace to make move for Dyche this week.

Seems odd the club would run a competition to meet Dyche at the training ground if he was leaving this week, the competition ends this Friday with the meeting most likely to be held next week.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/new ... hes-award/

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:39 pm

Club will have set that up independent to any potential move from Palace

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:41 pm

Dazzler wrote:Some folk will be in meltdown.

It is fairly hot at the moment in the South East!

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:42 pm

Only problem is if you win the comp you have to meet Sean in London..

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:43 pm

Can't Burnley simply say, "No, you can't talk to him. We have him under contract and we're keeping him".

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:47 pm

FactualFrank wrote:One thing that seems to be ignored - can't Burnley simply say, "No, you can't talk to him. We have him under contract and we're keeping him".

It isn't worth saying...it never works. Think he will be our ex manager by this weekend.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:47 pm

FactualFrank wrote:One thing that seems to be ignored - can't Burnley simply say, "No, you can't talk to him. We have him under contract and we're keeping him".

Depends on the terms of the contract. He's on a rolling contract with a trigger clause. If Palace hit the figure it could be that we can't prevent him speaking to them.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:49 pm

"One thing that seems to be ignored - can't Burnley simply say, "No, you can't talk to him. We have him under contract and we're keeping him".

That maybe but I would have thought that because of the good relationship SD has with that the Chairman and Board if SD tells them he would like to talk to them I don,t think they would not stand in his way.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:51 pm

I wouldn't want us to try to prevent him from speaking to them, actually.

Because if he wants to talk to them, it means he's quite prepared to leave.
And that's something we'll simply have to deal with should it come to pass.

Plenty of good managers out there who'll make themselves available.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:54 pm

Anyone for Brian Laws?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:54 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:I wouldn't want us to try to prevent him from speaking to them, actually.

Because if he wants to talk to them, it means he's quite prepared to leave.
And that's something we'll simply have to deal with should it come to pass.

Plenty of good managers out there who'll make themselves available.

And maybe get us some away wins in the process.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:57 pm

Was thinking about our next manager if Dyche left,could Woan not step up,he's worked along side Dyche and must know him inside out, a seamless continuation onwards from Dyche, I would certainly consider him. He would probably leave along with Dyche though they look a pretty close unit

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:57 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Plenty of good managers out there who'll make themselves available.

I hope you're right. One certainly would expect our 'pulling power' is the highest it's been in a long time.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:03 pm

"Plenty of good managers out there who'll make themselves available"

Really?

Sean Dyche aside, the list of prospective managers for the Crystal Palace job was completely uninspiring and rather worrying given that we may soon be in the same boat.

Which managers will make themselves available for the Burnley job that kept their heads below the parapet for the Crystal Palace gig?

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Was thinking about our next manager if Dyche left,could Woan not step up,he's worked along side Dyche and must know him inside out, a seamless continuation onwards from Dyche, I would certainly consider him. He would probably leave along with Dyche though they look a pretty close unit

management teams seem to come as a package now. Nothing to say a good assistant makes a good top man. It's been a disaster on numerous occasions.
I'll believe it when it happens. Not worried so far.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Depends on the terms of the contract. He's on a rolling contract with a trigger clause. If Palace hit the figure it could be that we can't prevent him speaking to them.

And its a reportedly very low £1M.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:10 pm

Was you thinking in terms of Waddle & Roeder Minnie?

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:15 pm

[quote="box_of_frogs"]Anyone for Brian Laws?[/quote

This year's equivalent would be Mike Phelan and, yes, alarmingly plenty on here would consider that a great appointment.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Depends on the terms of the contract. He's on a rolling contract with a trigger clause. If Palace hit the figure it could be that we can't prevent him speaking to them.

I'm sure palace would approach him first and if he wants to go they'll trigger the release clause

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:25 pm

It'd be disaster if we lose Dyche at this stage, two weeks away from the start of pre season.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:32 pm

According to the London Standard Sean Dyche has not yet been interviewed for the Palace job but report that he is very keen on exploring the possibility of taking over from Sam Allardyce at Selhurst Park.

Still, plenty of posters on here said it was never going to happen so we will have to wait and hope that Mike Garlick has another rabbit to pull out of the hat if needs be.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:46 pm

Agree with KSR Claret it will be a disaster if Super Sean leaves

Can we take heart from a competition on the official BFC web site that was announced 3 hours ago that is basically an auction and the winner gets to meet SD see below-

The Clarets – thanks to manager Sean Dyche – are giving you the chance to bid for a unique footballing prize.

Sean Dyche has made the League Managers’ Association Performance of the Week Award he won in March, 2015, after guiding the Clarets to victory over Premier League champions Manchester City, available for auction.

The winner who makes the highest bid will receive the original award in person from Dyche at Burnley’s Barnfield Training Centre.

Along with one guest, the successful bidder will also be able to watch the first-team squad training and enjoy lunch at the training ground.

Proceeds from the auction will go to children’s medical research charity Sparks – which is personally supported by Dyche.

The award went to the Burnley boss after George Boyd struck a memorable winner against City to secure a 1-0 victory over the defending champions at Turf Moor.

To bid on the award, and the chance to meet the man himself, all you need to do is email marketing@burnleyfc.com with the following details:

Subject - Dyche Award Bid
Contact Name
Contact Number
Maximum bid

We will update this webpage daily at 5pm with the highest bid! Please note we will only accept bids in denominations of £5.

The auction will close this Friday (23rd June) at 5pm.

Good luck!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:47 pm

Who would tell them he was "very keen"? Whatever random quotes are being thrown out, I find it hard to believe he would be "very keen" to go to a club with a bad record of getting rid of managers, who have spent over a month trying to sign any other manager going. Money would be the only driver, surely.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:47 pm

Agree this would not be good news so close to the return to pre season. Also the uncertainty is bound to affect our talks with potential incoming signings.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:09 pm

Will the competition winner be offered travel expenses and overnight accommodation in London?

iluva64 · Post by **iluva64** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:25 pm

Have we not been linked with Ronaldo yet?????

7decades · Post by **7decades** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:28 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:I wouldn't want us to try to prevent him from speaking to them, actually.

Because if he wants to talk to them, it means he's quite prepared to leave.
And that's something we'll simply have to deal with should it come to pass.

Plenty of good managers out there who'll make themselves available.

AND JUDAS

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:52 pm

dsr wrote:Who would tell them he was "very keen"? Whatever random quotes are being thrown out, I find it hard to believe he would be "very keen" to go to a club with a bad record of getting rid of managers, who have spent over a month trying to sign any other manager going. Money would be the only driver, surely.

This invented stuff in reports is annoying. He might be keen, he might not, no quotes, a nothing report.

I agree that he might be tempted for more money and few would blame him. If that's the case I expect we'd discuss with him what it would keep him to stay.

Manager changes are usually better when controlled by the club but not always (as we've seen in recent years).

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

I'd be surprised if he left,

He knows he has complete control within reason here at the football club, Palace up till now have not behaved in that way. financially he wont be significantly any better off,,,the packages will be similar other than burnleys having more in targets than base salary.

KlyBfc · Post by **KlyBfc** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:14 pm

My take on this situation (which is of course only my guess work from what we have read and heard)

- Palace approached SD'd agent, who said that SD would listen to what they had to say, if and when they approached / got an agreement from Burnley. This fits in with the report in the paper that 'he is interested / keen to go (as they love an exaggeration) and also fits in with how Dyche seems to conduct himself (i.e. wouldn't speak to them unless it was done in the correct way).
- They probably then explored all other candidates in case one of these was better / a stand out, which would have saved them a million pound and hence why he is 'yet to be interviewed'
- As none seem to be what they are looking for they now are looking to move for Dyche and the original 'he wants to speak to them' comes out as he probably does want to see what's on offer before making a decision, who wouldn't.

I am a little worried this week that he may go and the worry stems form the facts we are getting closer to the start of training, the quality out there is unknown and because he is a huge part in why we are still a Premier League Club.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:18 pm

Palace give you the sack if your near the bottom 3 by xmas......