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by Firthy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:31 pm
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:54 pm
Are we any wiser regarding Weghorst?
Yes we are. We should never have bought him in the first place

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by colne-claret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:34 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:25 pm
Just looked at that and he actually got 8 goals & 4 assists last season, which isn’t bad at all. I don’t remember it - I thought he’d been pretty quiet.
Only 20 too, which is younger than I expected. Sounds a bit more promising than I thought.
I didn’t realise he was at Norwich first half of the season

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by arise_sir_charge » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:34 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Just looked at his stats and they are better than I thought.
Hamer or Ramsey if you could only pick one?
Ramsey, 6 years younger, taller and a higher ceiling.
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by boatshed bill » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:36 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Just looked at his stats and they are better than I thought.
Hamer or Ramsey if you could only pick one?
Ramsey.
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by Papabendi » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:38 pm
claretspice wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:04 pm
I think that if there's a question mark over Berge, it's not so much why are Sheff Utd selling, but more why is noone else in for him at £12-15m in a market when Scott McTominay is being touted for £40m. Sheff Utd want every penny for him and clearly they've failed to get an auction going even at a comparatively modest price. If Nixon is right the wages aren't that big a problem for most clubs these days either.
I assume the answer to that is he's had 3 pretty indifferent years at Sheff Utd either playing in the Championship or being relegated, quite possibly playing in a team that have not generally played to his strengths. But still it's a bit of a fall for a player who was being linked with top 6 clubs when he surprisingly landed at Bramall Lane and it does beg the question are we all missing something the professionals are not.
if you speak to Sheff Utd fans, he is a square peg in a round hole for them.
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by Claretnick » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:40 pm
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:54 pm
Are we any wiser regarding Weghorst?
He was at the training ground today, he made a brief appearance on the media access day video.
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by claretspice » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:43 pm
Papabendi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:38 pm
if you speak to Sheff Utd fans, he is a square peg in a round hole for them.
Don't doubt it. And may well have impacted on his attractiveness to other clubs. But as I said, *if* there's a question mark, it's that.
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by Pickles » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:46 pm
arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:34 pm
Ramsey, 6 years younger, taller and a higher ceiling.
If he's a lot taller he'll need that higher ceiling.
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by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Mike Mcgrath with a new link, i'd take him all day long
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by Firthy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:48 pm
arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:34 pm
Ramsey, 6 years younger, taller and a higher ceiling.
Higher ceiling? How tall is he?

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by Commy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:48 pm
Villa fans think Aaron is going to be better than his brother Jacob. Most of them seem to think it is a good idea to sell him with a buy back as he won't get game time at Villa.
Didn't Berge spit his dummy out as Sheff Utd were asking too much for him when teams came in? I don't think he has been very happy since then so has just run his contract down. He will probably be better in a Kompany team as the ball is on the floor more than he is used to.
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by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:51 pm
Has there been any sign of exists for Bastien, Egan-Riley and Churlinov? Wouldn't be surprised to see them sent off on loan or perm in Churlinov and Bastien's cases
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by Firthy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:51 pm
If we pass on Souza to guarantee Berge then it's a good deal. Berge is proven in the PL and has the experience we need.
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by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Mike Mcgrath with a new link, i'd take him all day long
Mike McGrath is a very reputable source but surely Leeds would want fortunes for this lad?
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by Firthy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:54 pm
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Mike Mcgrath with a new link, i'd take him all day long
Oh no, another winger

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by jedi_master » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:56 pm
Gnonto would be signing of the summer but he would surely cost about £25m. Surely no chance whatsoever, surely!!?
McGrath knows his stuff but I just cannot see us having the cash.
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by Commy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:57 pm
I think the board have £ signs in their eyes for when we start selling all these wingers.

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by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:58 pm
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Mike McGrath is a very reputable source but surely Leeds would want fortunes for this lad?
yeah I'm not convinced on this being anything tbh but it popped up

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by Commy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:59 pm
I watched the Leeds match yesterday and I thought Summerville looked a good player.
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by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:04 pm
Commy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:59 pm
I watched the Leeds match yesterday and I thought Summerville looked a good player.
We were linked with Summerville a few days ago. Gnonto was linked with other PL clubs over a week ago but he’s still at DL.
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by martin_p » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:06 pm
jedi_master wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:56 pm
Gnonto would be signing of the summer but he would surely cost about £25m. Surely no chance whatsoever, surely!!?
McGrath knows his stuff but I just cannot see us having the cash.
I can’t see anywhere where McGrath has said anything about Gnonto to Burnley.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:10 pm
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Mike Mcgrath with a new link, i'd take him all day long
I saw something earlier in the window that suggested Gnonto had a similar clause in his contract to Rodrigo.
So maybe this could be relatively cheap?
I imagine he would want pretty substantial wages though
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by Pickles » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:10 pm
I'd be flabbergasted if we signed Gnonto. Wonderkid.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:15 pm
So we will have Redmond, Zaroury, Larson and Gnonto all for the left wing slot.
I really do not know what the plan is at all. Unless VK sees him as weghorsts replacement. I noticed he’s played a handful of games as a CF
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by Zom Zom » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:15 pm
I watched Gnonto against Cardiff.
He’s just a **** John Francis.
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by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:19 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:15 pm
So we will have Redmond, Zaroury, Larson and Gnonto all for the left wing slot.
I really do not know what the plan is at all. Unless VK sees him as weghorsts replacement. I noticed he’s played a handful of games as a CF
We don’t actually sign every player we’re linked with.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:20 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:19 pm
We don’t actually sign every player we’re linked with.
If we do sign him though
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by northeastclaret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:26 pm
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Mike Mcgrath with a new link, i'd take him all day long

More links in a day than a chavs gold chain.
But the Fantasy , phantom links hook the gullible in

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by Swizzlestick » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:29 pm
northeastclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:26 pm

More links in a day than a chavs gold chain.
But the Fantasy , phantom links hook the gullible in
Another riveting contribution.
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by TheFamilyCat » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:31 pm
northeastclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:26 pm

More links in a day than a chavs gold chain.
But the Fantasy , phantom links hook the gullible in
For the good of your health, I'd recommend not opening this anymore.
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by FeedTheArf » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:39 pm
jedi_master wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:56 pm
Gnonto would be signing of the summer but he would surely cost about £25m. Surely no chance whatsoever, surely!!?
McGrath knows his stuff but I just cannot see us having the cash.
Wasn’t there that rumour of lots of Leeds players having a clause in their contract that they could leave on loan if there were relegated?
Not sure if there was any substance in it but 5 players have left on loan this window.
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by Carport » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:49 pm
Blyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:45 pm
1.95…. Think that 6 5
I’m 6’5” which is 1m 98cm
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by Cirrus_Minor » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:54 pm
With what we have already recruited, and the (firm) rumours, we will have spent in excess of £100 million. And this does not include salaries. This is Burnley, what's going on?
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by Cooclaret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:56 pm
Commy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:57 pm
I think the board have £ signs in their eyes for when we start selling all these wingers.
Benson out < players in
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by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:02 pm
I presume the plan is to spend lots of money this summer on players with potentially high ceilings in the hope we put a team together for the next few years. If the (risky) plan comes off, we shouldn't need to spend anything like as much in the next couple of summers, it should just be a matter of adding a handful to complement an already strong team.
The strategy almost certainly envisions some big sales. I don't think that will happen this summer, but definitely over the next few years. We've signed and have been linked with lots of players around the 18-10 age, so I would imagine the plan is that when a big sale is made, we have players already at the club who can step up. Brighton employ a very similar ethos, although they've grown theirs over many years now.
It's thinking like we've never seen at Burnley before, though, no doubt about that. It's scary and exciting in equal measure.
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by Iloveyoubrady » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:02 pm
What’s all this nonsense about benson going.
He’s had an injury - the bloke isn’t going anywhere. Why would we sell him now - he’d be worth bugger all compared to how good we know he can be after a decent season this year…
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by Zom Zom » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:04 pm
Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:54 pm
With what we have already recruited, and the (firm) rumours, we will have spent in excess of £100 million. And this does not include salaries. This is Burnley, what's going on?
My thoughts too. WTF is going on?
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by boatshed bill » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:16 pm
Zom Zom wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:04 pm
My thoughts too. WTF is going on?
Speculate to accumulate, isn't it?
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by Zom Zom » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:17 pm
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:16 pm
Speculate to accumulate, isn't it?
I sincerely hope so.
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by Darnhill Claret » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:25 pm
I'll ask the question I asked a few days ago.
Is there still anyone who truly believes we will be in the relegation dogfight?
We have Vincent, (The Pied Pep Piper of Burnley), Kompany.
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by Pickles » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:28 pm
I think Kompany and Pace are very much looking high up the table. Got a hunch that Pace thinks European football is achievable sooner rather than later and they're throwing a bit at it while we have the momentum of last season. Like I say, just a vague theory but some some things have been said in interviews which makes me think a relegation fight has barely even been considered.
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by Pearcey » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:52 pm
Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:25 pm
I'll ask the question I asked a few days ago.
Is there still anyone who truly believes we will be in the relegation dogfight?
We have Vincent, (The Pied Pep Piper of Burnley), Kompany.
I’d take 17th right now.
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by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:52 pm
Before Pep signed Haaland and Alvarez City went a couple of years where almostall their attackers were wingers or converted wingers and it worked. Possibly VK is going down that route.
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by COBBLE » Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:21 am
Like most weĺl run businesses we are borrowing money to buy assets which we intend to increase in value and sell at a profit. It's not a certain bet but with inteĺligent management should work. I expect it to be successful and entertaining. If not BFS.