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January transfer questions

Post by Marlonspants » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:04 pm

Good evening.

A few questions.

1. Do you think we have identified our targets?

2. Do you think all our business (Joey aside) will be done on the last day of the window?

3. What would be your reaction if we didn't add to Joeys signing?

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Sidney1st » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:07 pm

I'm going to need some popcorn this could be interesting.
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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Squarepusher » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:09 pm

1. Yes
2. No
3. Disappointment
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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Zom Zom » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:12 pm

Yes.
No.
Asking if there was a lock on the door of the Dry Powder Room.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by keith1879 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:17 pm

1. Yes
2. Possibly - because despite what some people think - that tends to lead to the lowest possible price
being paid in what is essentially an auction.
3. Disappointment - but I'm not seriously looking for more than one extra.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by MrTopTier » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:17 pm

1.Yes
2.No

3.Image

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:17 pm

1. I blooming hope so, we've had long enough

2. No, I hope not or this site would implode

3. I'd be confused at best as this would be nonsensical. I'd have serious doubts over the ability of the recruitment team and question if they should be in a job or not.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Sidney1st » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:21 pm

1- I think so.

2- most likely, it seems to be the norm despite other clubs appearing to do a lot of theirs before the end.

3- amusement because I'd be watching this site implode.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by SalisburyClaret » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:22 pm

1. Do you think we have identified our targets?

Yes

2. Do you think all our business (Joey aside) will be done on the last day of the window?

Yes

3. What would be your reaction if we didn't add to Joeys signing?

Open another bottle

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:34 pm

1. Do you think we have identified our targets?

We have

2. Do you think all our business (Joey aside) will be done on the last day of the window?

I would suspect it will be late in the window. It was last time and allowed us to bring in a player we wouldn't have otherwise been able to sign. That, for a club like ours, is surely the way to do it.

3. What would be your reaction if we didn't add to Joeys signing?

Slightly disappointed, but would be more disappointed if we lost key players, that is the most important thing in this window. We don't want to be adding too many in any case.
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Re: January transfer questions

Post by SGr » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:37 pm

1. Yeah probably. If Dyche has watched enough re-runs of the Euros

2. There's no advantage to it, but yes since we're Burnley. Might TestTheWater™ with a few bids a fraction of the asking price with a week and a half to go

3. I'll be very very annoyed. But not very very surprised.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:38 pm

1.) Yes, the targets will have been identified long ago

2.) It better not be because I couldn't handle the excitement of us trying to make signings and the Leicester game

3.) Stick a few more pins in my Mike Garlick voodoo doll
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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Reecey1987 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:40 pm

True . But we also need to be adding more quality to add to what we already have in key positions . Lets be honest we have had some cracking results and deserve to be were we are in the table . But we have also had some luck were results have gone our way . It wont stay like that forever . Lets get these players in and kick on from were we left out

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by JohnMac » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:41 pm

Yes
No
Not surprised but disappointed just the same.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Tuddybfc » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:48 pm

Probably not, we've had 4 months since the close of the window, astounds me we aren't already strengthening in key positions having had so long

Almost definetly, it's the same every time, leave it the entire window then see what's out there (and as we saw with Grosicki we can find hitches late on) We've only had the full month though so why not leave it until the last few hours and no plan B!!

Cry at the prospect of Lowton Boyd and Arfield starting most games

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:22 pm

A question regarding bringing in new players:
We can only name 25 (plus under 23's?), so we probably only have one space left.
Can we take unsold current squad members out to make room for incoming players?

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Marlonspants » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:23 pm

Why would you cry tuddybfc?

All 3 players have been an integral part of the reason we are not in the relegation zone.

If we don't strengthen we have a team that has got us to where we are now.

I would rather we don't lose anyone than make a few silly signings that aren't going to help the cause.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by BurnleyPaul » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:28 pm

1. Do you think we have identified our targets?

Most definitely...

2. Do you think all our business (Joey aside) will be done on the last day of the window?

Not so sure about the last day but certainly in the last week. That's a natural reaction to the fact that we're after players better than what we currently we have. This in turn means we're looking for players at bigger clubs who are likely not going to be allowed to move on until their club has got their reinforcements in (e.g. Schiederlin to Everton, Cleverley to us) and we have a trickle down effect.

3. What would be your reaction if we didn't add to Joeys signing?

Annoyed...I think we need a couple of new players in the squad. I think that this site will explode and the first home game after the deadline could have a very toxic feel!

As long as we keep hold of our key players though and don't lose anybody we'd prefer to keep then that'll be a good start.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by keith1879 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:40 pm

SGr wrote:
2. There's no advantage to it, but yes since we're Burnley. Might TestTheWater™ with a few bids a fraction of the asking price with a week and a half to go
You get better for players for less money - which strikes me as the main point of a transfer system really.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Shore claret » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:42 pm

Squarepusher wrote:1. Yes
2. No
3. Disappointment
My thoughts exactly

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Darthlaw » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:50 pm

1. Do you think we have identified our targets?
Yes. Whether we have approached the relevant parties is a different question.
2. Do you think all our business (Joey aside) will be done on the last day of the window?
Probably. We seem to be led in our negotiations rather than taking control.
3. What would be your reaction if we didn't add to Joeys signing?
Deja vu. It's hard to get worked up when it would be a bigger shock that we did get our business done, rather than if we did not.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by SGr » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:54 pm

keith1879 wrote:You get better for players for less money - which strikes me as the main point of a transfer system really.
Better players? Errr no not necessarily

Less money? Wouldn't think so given clubs no longer have time to replace them

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Tuddybfc » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:59 pm

Marlonspants wrote:Why would you cry tuddybfc?

All 3 players have been an integral part of the reason we are not in the relegation zone.

If we don't strengthen we have a team that has got us to where we are now.

I would rather we don't lose anyone than make a few silly signings that aren't going to help the cause.
Clearly exaggerating a bit but the wingers especially are desperately below par and a decent crosser with pace is exactly what we're lacking and with having our best chance ever of survival it seems naive for us not to maximise our chances.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Grimsdale » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:05 pm

1. Definitely

2. The reality is that unless we offer ridiculous money and wages that won't be matched by anyone else, our transfer dealings will have to be at the end of the window when the selling club and player will know what they can get. Only then, if our offer is accepted and the player wants to come, will we see any incoming movement.

3. Disappointed but confident we can stay up with what we have.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:19 pm

Marlonspants wrote:Good evening.

A few questions.

1. Do you think we have identified our targets?

Yes

2. Do you think all our business (Joey aside) will be done on the last day of the window?

No

3. What would be your reaction if we didn't add to Joeys signing?
Utter bewilderment and fury at possibly blowing the best chance to stay up. In fact, if we don't add to Barton then I'll not log in here for a few weeks :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by claretdom » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:42 am

1 Yes

2 Not all of it

3 Get a good bottle of wine and enjoy the hissy fits on here

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by SkiptonClaret » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:55 am

1. Yes
2. Always assumed it would be the last two three days of the month.
3. Not sure we will be affecting the group too much in the current market, in which we are not leaders.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by ClaretEngineer » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:02 am

1. Its possible. The club conducts its dealings covertly so its hard to tell

2. Where's the fun if its not last minute! It will only be last minute if its a player in demand / who we REALLY want. Squad fillers are more likely to get done early.

3. I won't be surprised, maybe disappointed. We all like something new.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by claretspice » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:43 am

1. Yes.

2. Not all, and i slightly disagree with Tony here. Whilst i agree the focus should be on plsyers who immediately improve the first eleven, I'd like to think that we might bring in a player or two who, whilst not intended for the
Development Squad, is someone who is for the near future but isnt quite ready yet - particularly in departments where we lack a bit of depth. For example, a long term replacement for Marney (assuming Ulvestad is now written off - he was if course this sort of signing 2 years ago) , perhaps also a centre half to restock us when Keane leaves (what we did with Tarks last January) or a raw but quick winger. We're in a great position to invest and we should take it. These deals might go to the wire but there is less reason why they should.

3. Very disappointed. I'd be disappointed if we didn't bring in a marquee signing to strengthen our creative options, but even if that fails (and Tony is right that this can happen, and that keeping hold of our key players is more important - this group got 23 points from the first 19 games after all) there really is no excuse not to.add depth and options in key areas.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by lucs86 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:46 am

1. Yes
2. No
3. Self-immolation

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:10 am

1. Yes we identified Lansbury 3 years ago, still haven't signed him.
2. No we'll wait until the final day.
3. We desperately need a winger, Dyche has earned the right to be given backing this time and it will be ridiculous if he isn't.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by 2510 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:28 am

1. Yes I believe Mr Dyche has.

2. No. (Near the end though)

3. A little disappointed (Provided we do not sell one, or more, of the first team squad. Then I'd be distraught :( )

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:16 pm

1. yes

2. yes, certainly the last week and most likely the last day. A lot of the legwork will have already been done, its more a case of everything falling into place.

3. i'll be a bit disappointed but i think the current squad has enough about it to stay up. we'll need some luck on our side though, in terms of injuries etc.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by keith1879 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:15 pm

Grimsdale wrote:1. Definitely

2. The reality is that unless we offer ridiculous money and wages that won't be matched by anyone else, our transfer dealings will have to be at the end of the window when the selling club and player will know what they can get. Only then, if our offer is accepted and the player wants to come, will we see any incoming movement.

3. Disappointed but confident we can stay up with what we have.
Precisely - the only way to be sure of getting a specific player over the line at any time at all is to offer what the selling club and player cannot possibly refuse at that point. This will always (OK almost always) be less at the end of the window than early on for the simple reason that there is no longer a possibility of another club offering more.

How can anybody not understand this?

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by andyh » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:1. Yes we identified Lansbury 3 years ago, still haven't signed him.
2. No we'll wait until the final day.
3. We desperately need a winger, Dyche has earned the right to be given backing this time and it will be ridiculous if he isn't.
I agree with KRBFC... not often I find myself saying that :-) although I think he means yes to Q2.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:30 pm

1. Without a doubt. The idea some people have that those responsible for recruitment sit on their hands until the last day of the window then start making desperate bids is idiotic.

2. I would expect the deals to be done on the 30th/31st January -Monday and Tuesday

3. Disappointed. Whilst the squad is generally strong we're a little short of cover in a couple of positions and short of creativity in general. We're in a strong position to add to the squad - much stronger than previous seasons in the top flight. We have more than a good chance of survival so there less risk attached to signing higher earners. Now is the time to push on and add the quality required to see us over the line and strengthen us beyond this season.

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:39 pm

1. most likely
2. probably
3. unsurprised, though a little disappointed

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Re: January transfer questions

Post by Firthy » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:09 pm

1) Yes
2) No because all of our targets will have signed for other clubs
3) Resigned (accepted something that one cannot do anything about)

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