Ake & Bournemouth.

Heathclaret · Post by **Heathclaret** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:13 am

I know that one person doesn't make a team, but does anyone think that Bournemouth will struggle now that Ake has returned to Chelsea. Good player and perhaps will be a massive miss for them. Thoughts.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:16 am

Aren't they trying to get Terry in to replace him?

I think they know they're going to miss him, so I'd expect to see some efforts to replace him, but hopefully they don't.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:18 am

Yes Eddie alluded to the defensive issues post match at Hull.

They are currently weak there and are missing Francis through suspension as well, he needs a class centre half in the window without doubt.

It could be argued it's Eddie's achilles heel, he hasn't yet turned out a consistently tight back line, that being said they will come out the right side of enough high scoring games at home to survive.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:30 am

They've conceded three goals in seven of their last nine Premier League games

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:33 am

Eddie howes football philosophy is sh*t and will not bear long term success at any club.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:41 am

Saxoman wrote:Eddie howes football philosophy is sh*t and will not bear long term success at any club.

Good job you've got Coyle.....

Heathclaret · Post by **Heathclaret** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:46 am

I didn't realise they had conceded so few, Tony, but wasn't the cup game the first without Ake?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:46 am

Surprised they haven't bid for Keane or Tarkowski

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:46 am

Sidney1st wrote:Good job you've got Coyle.....

Their approach not dissimilar, howe could easily go the same way as coyle long term.

Cheshireclaret · Post by **Cheshireclaret** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:50 am

Heathclaret wrote:I didn't realise they had conceded so few, Tony, but wasn't the cup game the first without Ake?

I think you've misunderstood Tony's message - he is saying that in 7 of their last Premier League games they have conceded 3 goals in each, so 21 goals in total, the exceptions being clean sheets in the wins against Swansea and Leicester. Throw the Millwall game in and that's 3 conceded in 8 of their last 10 matches in all competitions.

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:56 am

Good manager but his style is a bit kevin keegan.

Heathclaret · Post by **Heathclaret** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:05 pm

Ah, apologies.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:54 pm

In terms of the relegation odds I'm surprised we are 5/1 (up til recently we were evens) and Bournmouth are 40/1.

They are good value at that price.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:57 pm

Sorry, hadn't made it that clear but Cheshireclaret has explained it - including the cup tie they've conceded 24 goals conceded in last 10 games. That's similar to the position we were in when he left.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:01 pm

Ake only started 8 league games for Bournemouth in his time there, 3 of which were clean sheets

BertiesBeehole · Post by **BertiesBeehole** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:04 pm

You can say what you like Saxo but I think Howe has already achieved long-term success at Bournemouth

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:05 pm

BertiesBeehole wrote:You can say what you like Saxo but I think Howe has already achieved long-term success at Bournemouth

A season and a bit in the prem long term success?

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:10 pm

Saxoman wrote:A season and a bit in the prem long term success?

For a team he took from 92nd place, yes.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:12 pm

Walton wrote:For a team he took from 92nd place, yes.

Over 2 spells.. And not without significant funding..

People talking him up for arsenal or england must be off their eads..

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:13 pm

Saxoman wrote:Over 2 spells.. And not without significant funding..

Absolute classic from a Blackburn fan

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:14 pm

Saxoman wrote:Eddie howes football philosophy is sh*t and will not bear long term success at any club.

Eddie Howe took over Bournemouth when they were bottom of League 2. Currently they are 11th in the Premier League. He's been in charge for 6.5 of the 8 years since first taking over, and has been manager for each of their promotions. To put it politely, Saxo, you're talking out of your posterior.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:17 pm

Bacchus wrote:Eddie Howe took over Bournemouth when they were bottom of League 2. Currently they are 11th in the Premier League. He's been in charge for 6.5 of the 8 years since first taking over, and has been manager for each of their promotions. To put it politely, Saxo, you're talking out of your posterior.

I'm not a fan. His approach not my cup of tea. Give me dyche any day.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:19 pm

Tough sh1t, you've got Coyle.

ta-ra

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:22 pm

Walton wrote:Absolute classic from a Blackburn fan

He is right though, but Rovers also prove the point to a degree.

Howe wouldn't be in the PL with Bournemouth without the money they got from their owner.

Rovers went up achieved some success and are now dropping back down the pyramid due to the owners not splurging on players.

Bournemouth would probably do the same if their owner suddenly lost interest or sold to the wrong person.

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:24 pm

andyh wrote:In terms of the relegation odds I'm surprised we are 5/1 (up til recently we were evens) and Bournmouth are 40/1.

They are good value at that price.

You tempted me at 40s... i actually got better than that!

Dare to dream?

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:29 pm

You need to Cash Out NOW!

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:31 pm

Bournemouth might not exist without Howe...

Ake was a good player for them but their defensive issues are likely more deep-seated than that. For all the investment in the playing squad, not a lot of it has gone on defenders and goalkeepers, Mings being the obvious exception, but he's been injured for a long time.

Even at 40/1 I don't think they're tempting to go down though, especially with a couple of the spots looking locked up by Swansea and Sunderland.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:33 pm

I think he's identified one of the problems, which is why they have a bid in for Begovic.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:18 pm

A good manager is Howe, but I suspect it would have taken him at least another two or three seasons to have got us promoted if at all. Dyche did it in one, by far a much better manager.
I thought we were losing a great young English manager who was steadily building a good team when he returned to Bournemouth, turned out a blessing in disguise.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:33 pm

I loved watching Howe's team play but my god it was frustrating. We could be 3-0 up and you wouldn't be completely convinced that we would get the win.

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