Eurovision: You Decide

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:56 pm

On BBC2 now. Brexit will no doubt decrease our 'no chance' to 'no f-ckin chance' but it's a bit of light entertainment.

6 songs performed and we decide which one goes to Kiev.

2 songs done so far, liked the first, thought the second one was HOS.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:02 pm

Is there any point this year?
Anyone close to Russia will definitely vote for them, like they usually do.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:04 pm

There's little point every year Sidney, but it's something different to watch.

That 3rd song was begging to break out into a euphoric anthem, but it just never happened. Good singer, poor song.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:11 pm

I've decided it's schit.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:16 pm

Are we allowed in with the brexit thingy

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:19 pm

Link me better Eurovision songs than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k59E7T0H-Us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxopViU98Xo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:20 pm

karatekid wrote:Are we allowed in with the brexit thingy

Sod brexit. If Australia can get in it, I'm pretty sure anyone can

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:23 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Link me better Eurovision songs than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k59E7T0H-Us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxopViU98Xo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The song by Dana International was the best ever Eurovision tune.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:24 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Link me better Eurovision songs than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k59E7T0H-Us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxopViU98Xo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Come at me, brah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L18fPGfPjlU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:26 pm

As if any European countries are gonna vote for us after we told them to get lost. Nil Points again?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:28 pm

Reports that our entry was to be "Border Song" by Elton John proved wide of the mark.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:32 pm

I think whoever wins will sink like a row of vodka shots in Kiev, but #1 for me was the best. It was the most Euphoric, and Eurovision likes that.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:35 pm

Gary Moore - separate ways. This would sock it to 'em.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11wgA3GQFg

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:56 pm

Lucy won and that song is seriously lacking. She has a good voice, but the song was average at best. Certainly not top 10 material. It was begging to break out into a euro pop song but it doesn't go anywhere.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:The song by Dana International was the best ever Eurovision tune.

That was the year after our greatest ever Eurovision song too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8oTtSTRdSw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:24 pm

I always enjoy Eurovision. Voting always winds me up but the whole thing is pretty fun and not to be taken too seriously

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:31 pm

Get a few of you round the tv with plenty of ale, it's the best comedy night of the year.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:44 pm

And anyone who doesn't vote for Russia will promptly be invaded and annexed! Best not to bother joining in!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:49 pm

karatekid wrote: As if any European countries are gonna vote for us after we told them to get lost. Nil Points again?

Somehow I doubt that Russia, Ukraine, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, Australia, Israel, etc. are really that bothered about Brexit.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:56 pm

dsr wrote:Somehow I doubt that Russia, Ukraine, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, Australia, Israel, etc. are really that bothered about Brexit.

Percentage wise though it's more negative than positive. Isn't it around 28 countries in the EU and 44 overall? Australia I don't think can even vote.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:57 pm

I have a feeling we could make top ten with this. There's quite a big pro UK feeling around Europe, the people that is, not governments

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:00 pm

Guich wrote:I have a feeling we could make top ten with this. There's quite a big pro UK feeling around Europe, the people that is, not governments

It just lacks something to me. Fit singer - check, she's very attractive. Good voice? Check - very good voice (they were all close on the X Factor)... good song? No, I think it lacks something very important. It doesn't breakout like you get with Euro songs. It sticks at the same rate and doesn't go anywhere.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:03 am

FactualFrank wrote:Percentage wise though it's more negative than positive. Isn't it around 28 countries in the EU and 44 overall? Australia I don't think can even vote.

Yes, but I'm by no means convinced that 100% of the people in the other 27 EU countries love the EU so much that they will vote the UK down.

This political voting thing is overblown, anyway. There are three reasons why countries vote for their neighbours, IMO:

1. Expatriates. Cyprus always votes for Greece, because Cyprus is full of Greeks voting for their home country.
2. Similar tastes. The Cypriots who live in Cyprus tend to be closely linked to Greece and Greek-type music.
3. Political reasons. Turkish Cypriots don't vote for Greece because historically they don't like Greeks. (Generalisation, but we are talking about averages here!)

The UK don't get many votes from anyone but Malta and Ireland because we don't have enough expatriates who care about phone votes in the other countries, and possibly because we've got a different cultural background, and possibly because they don't like us. But when Germany won it two or three years back, surely that completely knocked on the head the idea that a country widely disliked can't win?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:05 am

dsr wrote:Yes, but I'm by no means convinced that 100% of the people in the other 27 EU countries love the EU so much that they will vote the UK down.

This political voting thing is overblown, anyway. There are three reasons why countries vote for their neighbours, IMO:

1. Expatriates. Cyprus always votes for Greece, because Cyprus is full of Greeks voting for their home country.
2. Similar tastes. The Cypriots who live in Cyprus tend to be closely linked to Greece and Greek-type music.
3. Political reasons. Turkish Cypriots don't vote for Greece because historically they don't like Greeks. (Generalisation, but we are talking about averages here!)

The UK don't get many votes from anyone but Malta and Ireland because we don't have enough expatriates who care about phone votes in the other countries, and possibly because we've got a different cultural background, and possibly because they don't like us. But when Germany won it two or three years back, surely that completely knocked on the head the idea that a country widely disliked can't win?

So basically - we have naff all chance.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:08 am

Sidney1st wrote:Is there any point this year?
Anyone close to Russia will definitely vote for them, like they usually do.

You think Ukraine will

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:20 am

It's crazy how time flies. He looks like Justin Bieber.

This was a great song for 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiH4BFTELME" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:27 am

Much akin with the "How long before the soaps are finished"thread.

Keep watching crap they'll keep putting crap on

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:29 am

Dazzler wrote:Much akin with the "How long before the soaps are finished"thread.

Keep watching crap they'll keep putting crap on

I'd say it's nothing like it.
The soaps are because of us - If we did absolutely nothing, the rest of Europe will still do Eurovision without the UK. It'll still happen, regardless.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:35 am

But will you still watch it without a UK entry ?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:37 am

Dazzler wrote:But will you still watch it without a UK entry ?

We have a UK entry though. We'll still be entered.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:41 am

I think you've misunderstood me.
Would you still watch Eurovisuon without a UK entry ?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:49 am

Dazzler wrote:I think you've misunderstood me.
Would you still watch Eurovisuon without a UK entry ?

Yeah. The best song is never the UK entry anyway, so I class it as a way to listen to new material.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:20 am

Oh when we ruled the Euro's with classics like these eh..

https://youtu.be/ykKNC6NjgMc

https://youtu.be/h4-lKMGII_k

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:24 am

Back in the day Dazzler, we would rule the Euros. Now... we're shite

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:37 am

What,as shite as these ?>>

https://youtu.be/Wl3uNhuc7Fo

https://youtu.be/RyVcWgJLnqY

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:43 am

This is the best Eurovision tune.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv83u7-mNWQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:48 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:That was the year after our greatest ever Eurovision song too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8oTtSTRdSw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Greatest Euro song ever!!!!

Proper band!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:56 am

I thought Katrina and the Waves' was an awful tune.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:00 am

AlternativeFactualFrank

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:13 am

. thinks FactualFrank loses the battle for the TV remote with his wife on Eurovision night so is trying to make the best of a bad situation.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:16 am

all we need is a fat transexual half way through the pre op wearing rainbow colors who is also mixed race singing a song about peace and love with references to Diana with it being 20 years since hear death and we have nailed euro vision this year.

7decades · Post by **7decades** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:44 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:all we need is a fat transexual half way through the pre op wearing rainbow colors who is also mixed race singing a song about peace and love with references to Diana with it being 20 years since hear death and we have nailed euro vision this year.

You forgot to mention carrying "a save the whales" banner

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:47 am

I think we should start a petition to bring back Humperdinck.

On a side note, I hope to go to Eurovision one day (to watch, not to perform!).

And yes, I'd still watch regardless of a UK entry.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:39 am

Its a big meaningless extravagaanza,instantly forgetable.

rigged votes, popular with gay audiences for some inexplicable reason.

if they relied on just the artists on stage, it would be caterwauling