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vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by brexit » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:19 pm

“Sam has been a good servant to the club and he deserved that. He is maturing into a very good player, so I’m pleased for him and the club today."

The above quote from Mr D. feels to me like he might be moving Sam on in the summer.
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:22 pm

brexit wrote:“Sam has been a good servant to the club and he deserved that. He is maturing into a very good player, so I’m pleased for him and the club today."

The above quote from Mr D. feels to me like he might be moving Sam on in the summer.
How do you come to that conclusion based on that quote?
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by dsr » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:24 pm

I think there's always a place in the squad for good reserves. We can;t just rely on 11 men for the whole season.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by brexit » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:25 pm

The good servant bit troubles me.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Rojales Claret » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:27 pm

Players of Sam's ilk don't tend to reach their peak till late twenty's cos they don't rely on pace. I'd be amazed if Sam is allowed to leave in the near future.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:29 pm

brexit wrote:The good servant bit troubles me.
That tag never seemed to trouble Brian Miller or his employers.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by andyh » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:30 pm

Sam is not a premier league standard centre forward... but he is damn close.

He is strong, good in the air and not that shoddy on the ground but still not quite the stellar player that inhabits the Prem.

As 3rd or 4th choice he is absolutely fine and his defensive skill means there are games where his heading in his own box is useful.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Rojales Claret » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:35 pm

dsr. We don't have any reserves! We have a squad of players!!

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Rojales Claret » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:37 pm

If we chose to play a five man midfield he is our best option up front!

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Post by john'sroseyspecs » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:39 pm

brexit wrote:“Sam has been a good servant to the club and he deserved that. He is maturing into a very good player, so I’m pleased for him and the club today."

The above quote from Mr D. feels to me like he might be moving Sam on in the summer.
Balls ******** big hairy love sack. You are talking all of them.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:55 pm

Vokes is always learning and has a great football brain I agree with Bash's comment on when he'll peak. When he had his run in up front in I heard him discussed on the radio in '5 most underrated premier league players' taking his Wales games into account also.
If he's willing to stay and do a job for us I'd keep him on and see how he does, bring us something different when things need another approach.
I do think though our heads could be turned at the prospect of how much we could get from a rich championship side for a player with 35 goals over two promotion seasons.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:23 pm

tricky one because recent fans have seen him as a hero from his championship season days, he's been a firm favourite with Danny Ings ,and rightly so. Suffered injuries and fought back to full fitness, High profile for Wales as well. Really difficult to access who is and who isn't premier league status. Is Boyd? Is Arfield? is Barnes? where do we end this judgemental stuff.
Lowton? Marney? All have had flak on here. The current set up has us in 13th spot , not a wealthy club, but we are collectively doing very well.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by HendricksHair » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:26 pm

brexit wrote:The good servant bit troubles me.
was in response to the fact that Sam's goal today was his 50th for the club
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:26 pm

Isn't he our top scorer this season?
Or close to and and one of the main reasons we are where we are right now this season.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:31 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Isn't he our top scorer this season?
Or close to and and one of the main reasons we are where we are right now this season.
2nd after Gray (6 & 4) which isn't massive to be fair considering we've had 13 different goal league scorers this season (Gray 6, Vokes 4, Barnes 3, Hendrick 2 and nine on 1)
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:31 pm

HendricksHair wrote:was in response to the fact that Sam's goal today was his 50th for the club
Was about to post this. It's quite simple really.

Close the thread, silly inflammatory headline.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by brexit » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:38 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Was about to post this. It's quite simple really.

Close the thread, silly inflammatory headline.
Excellent I forward an opinion some posters actually bother to reply One kokshina moves to deny free speech.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by HunterST_BFC » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:40 pm

HendricksHair wrote:was in response to the fact that Sam's goal today was his 50th for the club
Exactly this.

The OP can now stop knee twitching - for now at least. :roll:
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:57 pm

brexit wrote:Excellent I forward an opinion some posters actually bother to reply One kokshina moves to deny free speech.
You're interpretation was so far off base. Nothing to do with free speech.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:00 am

Christ. First the Ravel Morrison thread and now this.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:19 am

Nonsense.
One of the mainstays of our attack and holds the ball up better than most.
Great header of the ball.

Lots of mileage (and goals) in SV yet.
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:19 am

Just because we have got Brexit, doesn't mean we are kicking out the Welsh as well, don't forget they voted For.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:03 am

Vokes is here to stay, close this thread
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:36 am

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Vokes is here to stay, close this thread
Never mind.

Thought he was average yesterday ( along with many ) against a poor Championship defence.

Think ( hope ) he will be 4th / 5th choice next season as that means we have progressed.

He can have most Saturdays off them to watch his beloved Southampton, and sing until his hearts content ;)
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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:41 am

Ideally we would upgrade on Vokes, like most of our squad.

But finding players who are of higher quality and with the same attitude within our price range isn't easy.

The squad we have are doing a fine job at the moment but the longer we stay in this league, we are going to need better players.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Spijed » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:42 am

MACCA wrote:Thought he was average yesterday ( along with many ) against a poor Championship defence.
Isn't that the case with every club who struggle to get past lower league opposition?

Spurs were rubbish in their game as well. They might have made changes, but their ones still cost many millions more than our players did.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Claretto » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:45 am

1. We only have three strikers
2. Vokes is our #1 when we play 4-5-1

So no

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:54 am

Squad game and when we play 4-5-1, Vokes is indispensable

Gray and Barnes for 4-4-2.

Also re goals scored, Vokes has 6 and Gray 7. Nothing between them

Vokes is here to stay

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by bobinho » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:57 am

Always liked big Sam. Looked off it yesterday tho. Doesn't mean he's finished, but I would like us to kick on once we manage to become safe.

And fwiw, I think Barnes is a far better option up top on his own. Faster, stronger, and ability to hold the ball up are my reasons. Barnes holds it up on his chest brilliantly meaning he can see the support arriving. Sam wins headers most of the time, but up top on his own means there is no one picking up the scraps. Doesn't turn too well either due to his size. Sometimes looks immobile, like he's running in custard. I'd keep Sam, but only as an impact sub when trying to rescue something with long balls late on.

I'm sure that's not the "party line" but if we don't change owt, we'll stay as we are. And that spells failure at this level.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by COBBLE » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:19 pm

There are games and situations when Vokes can do better than anyone else - like the header that made Gray's goal against Middlesborough.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:32 pm

Vokes is our best CF in my opinion. We didn't put a single decent cross in to him yesterday and the makeshift midfield was slow in getting up and supporting him but some of his hold up play was top notch. Helps out defensively as well which is a massive bonus.

A very tidy finish yesterday here's hoping he starts to get more starts.

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Re: vokes surplus to requirements?

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:11 pm

Personally I'd be very disappointed to see him leave.

And how you get this idea from SD quote it beyond me. He's just hit a landmark tally and for me will probably get better in the next few seasons. Rotation and form...Vokesy is more than good enough for that.

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