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Vokes mobility

Post by cblantfanclub » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:57 pm

Sam's never been particularly fleet of foot but recently he seems slower than ever and without wanting to be unkind a bit lumbering.
Is he carrying an injury - it looks like it at times ?

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by KefkaClaret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:00 pm

He's certainly carrying some timber

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:01 pm

Great! Now it's Sam's turn for a bit of abuse.
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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:18 pm

I didn't see one bit of abuse from the OP. Some people need to learn the difference between an observation/question and abuse

Some of you obviously went to the Donald Trump school

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Blackrod » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:33 pm

His movement was the same as always. He always lumbers. It's when he doesn't win headers, create chances, score easy chances and get headers on target there's a problem....
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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by warksclaret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:47 pm

You can rotate Barnes, Gray and Vokes as much as you like. All 3 are great servants and squad members but all 3 lack the cutting edge of the PL

We will inevitably sell MK in the Summer and that's where we need to use the money, maybe trying to get Ings or Rodriguez and another quality striker

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:47 pm

Ings or Rodriguez??? No thanks.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:51 pm

We need a quality striker. For all AG's promise he is an £8m stricker not £18m

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by RocketLawnChair » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:59 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:We need a quality striker. For all AG's promise he is an £8m stricker not £18m

His goals earned us roughly £170 million..

Look thread after thread will dissect today. Summary,,,, today was S H I T but I've followed the clarets since 1980 and I've left the ground feeling a whole lot S H I T T E R than today...

See you all at Hull X
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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:13 pm

He's too soft for a big lad, should have been bossing their centre halves today, Barnes first challenge when he came on was more positive than anything Sam did all game. Toughen up please.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:25 pm

Thought he hqs looked a lot sharper recently, today excepted

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by MDWat » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:36 pm

Vokes tends to find a while to get going if he spends time out of the team.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Stayingup » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:01 pm

warksclaret wrote:You can rotate Barnes, Gray and Vokes as much as you like. All 3 are great servants and squad members but all 3 lack the cutting edge of the PL

We will inevitably sell MK in the Summer and that's where we need to use the money, maybe trying to get Ings or Rodriguez and another quality striker
Agreed. We need a good striker. I thought we should have tried to get Rhodes.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:05 pm

He could learn a thing or two from that lump they had upfront.. as crazy as that sounds.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by RocketLawnChair » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:07 pm

warksclaret wrote:You can rotate Barnes, Gray and Vokes as much as you like. All 3 are great servants and squad members but all 3 lack the cutting edge of the PL

We will inevitably sell MK in the Summer and that's where we need to use the money, maybe trying to get Ings or Rodriguez and another quality striker
Well the 3 you suggest lack the cutting edge have got us to 12th in the Premier League so I personally am going to afford them the benefit of one collective crap performance...

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:09 pm

Why do people keep suggesting we sign 2 injury prone strikers?

Can't we try and sign someone else, or aren't completely new strikers allowed?

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:10 pm

To be fair thought Sam didn't look 100% today. I'm a big fan of Vokes but he looked off the pace and never at any point looked the player we know he can be.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:He could learn a thing or two from that lump they had upfront.. as crazy as that sounds.
Perhaps some help with diet?
Nothing to learn there, he was just up for it.
Basically Tarkowski and Keane had very little trouble from him, our problems lay elsewhere in my humble opinion.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:56 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Perhaps some help with diet?
Nothing to learn there, he was just up for it.
Basically Tarkowski and Keane had very little trouble from him, our problems lay elsewhere in my humble opinion.
He offered a physical threat and won alot more in the air than Vokes.
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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by 1fatclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:43 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:He's too soft for a big lad, should have been bossing their centre halves today, Barnes first challenge when he came on was more positive than anything Sam did all game. Toughen up please.
Barnes first challenge? You mean the one where he jumped into the defender about 5 seconds before the ball arrived, giving away a free kick? That one. Yeah, really positive that was.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by RocketLawnChair » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:58 am

1fatclaret wrote:Barnes first challenge? You mean the one where he jumped into the defender about 5 seconds before the ball arrived, giving away a free kick? That one. Yeah, really positive that was.

I think it's a big part of the game personally. Yes it was a foul by Barnes but he's letting his direct opponent know this is going to be a physical battle and I'm up for it. Vokes does lack this and I've thought it ever since he signed, not just today.

Barnes does this every game and doesn't always concede a free kick btw.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:19 am

Barnes is in your face and is not easy to play against and his touch is good,tso the striking colleague on the day can often pick something from it. He also usually plays well against the top sides ie Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal. Particularly away Barnes & Vokes are easy to contain

As for the post that says our 3 strikers have got us to 12th in the PL lets see how many goals come from these 3 between now and May

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:21 am

That should have read "Gray & Vokes are easy to contain"

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by 1fatclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:26 am

RocketLawnChair wrote:I think it's a big part of the game personally. Yes it was a foul by Barnes but he's letting his direct opponent know this is going to be a physical battle and I'm up for it. Vokes does lack this and I've thought it ever since he signed, not just today.

Barnes does this every game and doesn't always concede a free kick btw.
He does concede the same free kicks every single game. He wins less in the air than Vokes by some distance. Vokes isn't "too soft" he just doesn't recklessly jump into his opponent.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:28 am

KRBFC, we actually dealt with Rhead fairly easily.

Lincoln created one chance, which they scored from, and even that wasn't a corner.

Its a complete one off, and comparing someone who plays up front in the conference to premier league strikers who have done well this season is frankly, a bit like people saying Barton has always been a liability.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:34 am

To be fair Lincoln missed their best chance in first half.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Blackrod » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:45 am

I'd be shipping both Vokes and Gray out in. Summer and upgrading if we want to improve. I would keep Barnes as he offers much more with his presence although not too many goals.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Spijed » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:48 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:KRBFC, we actually dealt with Rhead fairly easily.

Lincoln created one chance, which they scored from, and even that wasn't a corner.

Its a complete one off, and comparing someone who plays up front in the conference to premier league strikers who have done well this season is frankly, a bit like people saying Barton has always been a liability.
Matt Rhead is 32. He isn't good enough to play professional football at a higher level. That's why he drives JCB's for a living.

And yet he's been compared to someone who, at the very least, is a very good Championship striker.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Holtyclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:07 am

It always seems to me and I like Sam, that he's not worth playing if we're not going to get crosses in. Same situation as Andre, with the wrong type of service there's little chance he'll score.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by ablueclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:10 am

Remember Vokes didn't get the summer break, in my opinion would have been better to start with him alone up front get a shift out of him and then bring on Barnes and Gray to raise the pace of the game.No element of surprise yesterday.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:10 am

Sorry Bordeaux, you are right, they created two chances, one of which they scored from.

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Re: Vokes mobility

Post by boiledclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:27 am

He offered a physical threat and won alot more in the air than Vokes.

:lol: :lol: yeah I'm sure he'd have had memorable performances against City in a 1-0 and scored 20+ in a promotion season to the Prem.

Rheid is a big lump who had his momemt in the Sun because the ref was soft as **** And for all those fans turning on Barton whatabout the hatchet job they did on Gudmundssen.

Am I the only one here who really wanted to see that cheating t*** take a right crack off the ball?

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