What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

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What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:19 pm

After we'd drawn with currently the best team in the country (by quite a way) everyone was overflowing with pride.

We'd given a defensive masterclass, limiting them to zero chances after they'd scored. Our players could do no wrong, looking like an established PL side, even having chances to win the match.

Everyone was adamant we were on the up.

Yet, after today's result many of the same players are now being accused of not being good enough for the Premier league, with poor control, despite it being a one-off game. It's seems the pendulum from glory to disaster swings very easily on here.

The Premier league is a brutal place and hard work alone counts for very little. We must have something about us to be 10 points clear of relegation in 12th place.
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:39 pm

A great feeling of an underwhelming performance today after last weeks game.. People were expecting more than a game of up n under for 90 minutes

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by bartons baggage » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:43 pm

Spijed wrote:After we'd drawn with currently the best team in the country (by quite a way) everyone was overflowing with pride.

We'd given a defensive masterclass, limiting them to zero chances after they'd scored. Our players could do no wrong, looking like an established PL side, even having chances to win the match.

Everyone was adamant we were on the up.

Yet, after today's result many of the same players are now being accused of not being good enough for the Premier league, with poor control, despite it being a one-off game. It's seems the pendulum from glory to disaster swings very easily on here.

The Premier league is a brutal place and hard work alone counts for very little. We must have something about us to be 10 points clear of relegation in 12th place.
It's called being fickle mixed with being thickle. :D
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Vintage Claret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:46 pm

What's changed?
Darikwa for Lowton
Flanagan for Ward
Vokes for Barnes
Arfield for Brady
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by ClaretEngineer » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:48 pm

I think it's something to do with the quality of the opposition and the way they play. We are used to a certain style of play each week, a different style tonthat played in other Leagues.

We didn't play with the same intensity, as the intensity wasn't present in the opposition. We simply didn't know what to do.

That and some very poor finishing from Gray and Arfield.

We simply weren't all there today.

All credit goes to Lincoln for getting the result.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by CleggHall » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:48 pm

4 very good reasons there Vintage Claret.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by ontario claret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:55 pm

I think we missed Ward more than anybody. He calms everything down. We fell into the "frantic" trap.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by bfcjg » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:57 pm

I unfortunately changed my lucky underpants which I have worn unbroken since our unbeaten run at the Turf started. The club know why I bring a can of febreeze on with me for the comfort of the people to my right and left, front and back and let me pass the stewards unfettered. The damned George mediums actually disintegrated after the whistle versus Chelsea on my way back to the car. The TK max special gentlemens mediums have been ceremonially burnt in the garden after todays debacle. I'm off to George in the morning. I take full responsibility, nothing to do with poor players and tactics.
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Right_winger » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:02 pm

Attitude more than anything else.

Don't think Dyche will be too disappointed, he hates cup competitions

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Top Claret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:08 pm

Dyche did not do his home work on Lincoln. Lincoln play narrow just like we do and get in the face of the opposition, we could simply not cope playing against a mini Burnley.

He should have played with more width today and pushed his full backs up.He set his team out as if we were playing Chelsea.

The only player who came out of that game with any credit for us was Tarks

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:50 pm

One thing that seems to have changed as well is the opinion that after the Chelsea game we were pretty much safe. Now it seems, we are far from it.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:54 pm

Lots of changes.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:59 pm

Today was like a group of football lookalikes turned up. But the spirit & determination was at home. Hugely disappointing.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Shore claret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:03 pm

Right_winger wrote:Attitude more than anything else.

Don't think Dyche will be too disappointed, he hates cup competitions
I hope Dyche will be very disappointed with that display,cup or not.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Ric_C » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:06 pm

Got the feeling today that Dyche set us up to try and out muscle them rather than out play them. Should have been the other way round. Also getting Barton to screen Rhead all game was an error of judgement as it took Barton out of the game for the most part
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:08 pm

Lincoln opened a window and let our an air of complacency.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:09 pm

Attitude and inability to play with the ball - too much possession for us today I'm afraid.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:09 pm

What's changed!?

Nowt we're still 12th in the premier league!
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Claretforever » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:13 pm

Too many changes and we couldn't get away with it against a side playing similar to ourselves, especially when they totally out committed us all over the pitch. They ran harder, faster, and defended like their life depended on it. Play them tomorrow and we'd batter them, but this was their day.

That's how we normally play, but a bit of arrogance crept in today, as though we had a Devine right to beat them. Our stats were better(you don't win on paper as we all know), but our endeavour lacking by quite some distance.
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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:27 pm

Assuming the question is about why the fans are so negative for a one off defeat, I think it's something to do with being on the wrong end of one of the top upsets in over a century.

Even for those of us who want to focus on the league, that feeling of humiliation isn't something we want associated with our club, and this will be remembered long after the country forgets where we finish this season.

We've already done something uniquely bad as a top division side in 1975 - and now we've done it twice.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by ALP » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:32 pm

Spijed wrote:My season ticket is going in the bin!
Your season ticket is in the bin, there's one difference :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by beddie » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:20 pm

If you want to win a game you put the best team out that's available. I really don't understand why we didn't do that.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Guich » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:33 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Assuming the question is about why the fans are so negative for a one off defeat, I think it's something to do with being on the wrong end of one of the top upsets in over a century.

Even for those of us who want to focus on the league, that feeling of humiliation isn't something we want associated with our club, and this will be remembered long after the country forgets where we finish this season.

We've already done something uniquely bad as a top division side in 1975 - and now we've done it twice.

I think you're missing the point. It's only a big upset because we are such a good team. These things happen.

And however many football fans I've talked to about our 1975 defeat (I don't live in Burnley), no-one knew about it.

No-one will care about yesterday's upset next year and we'll still be a good team. I think it's a great story and I wish Lincoln well.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:44 pm

The players brought in not being good enough is the simple reason. Roll on Saturday.

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by Saxoman » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:52 pm

Guich wrote:I think you're missing the point. It's only a big upset because we are such a good team. These things happen.

And however many football fans I've talked to about our 1975 defeat (I don't live in Burnley), no-one knew about it.

No-one will care about yesterday's upset next year and we'll still be a good team. I think it's a great story and I wish Lincoln well.
Your right, rovers fans won't be going on about it 20 years later ala trelleborgs..

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Re: What's changed between the Chelsea game & this evening?

Post by forzagranata » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:16 pm

beddie wrote:If you want to win a game you put the best team out that's available. I really don't understand why we didn't do that.
I agree. Perhaps it wasn't a priority - which is a shame as a run to Wembley wasn't out of the question.

When you pick a weakened team, with the best will in the world, I don't think you can avoid the message of the game not being *that* important getting into the player's heads.

Having said that - the Lincoln game exposed a weakness that particular line-up had with possession and passing. Our full line-up - with Hendrick, Brady and Defour available - can move the ball much better than the rather basic hoofball we produced yesterday.

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