You couldn't make it up

[Imploding Turtle]

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[TheFamilyCat]

The story or his name? Or both?

I think they've posted their April fool story a bit early.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Missed an important part out there bud.

In the shorter term we have heard clear evidence that access to the Single Market place, continuation of financial support and assurances over migrant labour are critical priorities.

Of course that would be the case until things are still settling and people are breaking from a process that they have operated under for the last few decades. Once the allocation of membership fees we used to pay has been decided and the stem of workflow and recruitment process has been updated and adapted to become less reliant on a constant stream of cheap European labour, then that should change.

We will save 5b a year (touch or go) on membership fees, in theory that means we can essentially double their previous allocation of funding if the government sees fit to do so with the same pile of cash. Now, you can make an argument for whether our total GDP will be lower as a result of leave the EU therefore the membership fee loss becomes irrelevant, sure; but that's all speculation for now and is not relevant to this particular discussion.

Therefore in theory, you could match the subsidies they received before as a basic starter, then allocate the same amount back as a bonus payment to help with the costs of recruitment of local people for the jobs, on better pay and more sustainable contracts to make them more livable. All the while not spending a penny extra than you did before, reducing the stem of foreign labour, and getting local people into good work. Way I see it it could well be a win win.

[Sidney1st]

What couldn't we make up?

[Devils_Advocate]

if the government sees fit to do so with the same pile of cash.

[Hipper]

Surely it is exactly these sorts of reports that should have been drawn up and made available BEFORE the Referendum, and certainly by the likes of UKIP. That's what pisses me off.

On a side note, in the punk era, as well as drawing safety pins on the queen's nose on paper money, we gave ourselves punk names. We had Keith Chaos, Mick Menace, and, Robin Reckless. What cards we were in those days!

[ClaretMoffitt]

What is so funny?

Do you believe that by paying 10b over to a foreign organisation (5 of which they take away) they would somehow spend that (now halved) money better than our government? I'm not entirely sure what the EU have done to earn this level of trust with so many people in the country.

[Rowls]

Imploding Turtle adopts Richard Littlejohn's favourite phrase.

You couldn't make it up.

[Devils_Advocate]

What is so funny?

Do you believe that by paying 10b over to a foreign organisation (5 of which they take away) they would somehow spend that (now halved) money better than our government? I'm not entirely sure what the EU have done to earn this level of trust with so many people in the country.

At least try and quote me correctly

[Paul Waine]

http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2017-03-2 ... st-brexit/

Hi IT, thanks for sharing.

Two themes, I think: 1) UKIP (united kingdom independence party) arguing for Wales rather than UK - but, OK the guy is a member of Welsh Assembly;

2) UKIP asking for continuation of EU support for agriculture - rather than for "stand on our own two (or four) feet" independence.

Interesting stat: 90% of Welsh farm exports go to EU, but how much of Welsh farm produce is exported? Don't we eat Welsh lamb anymore?

Why is it that so many of our industries (does agriculture count as an industry?) can't get by without taxpayer handouts? I know the French insist on CAP because their farmers have a large number of votes - but what about the harm to farmers in countries outside EU who don't get hand-outs and can't export to UK and EU because of CAP?

[Paul Waine]

Just heard on news that Carswell, the only UKIP MP, has declared himself independent of UKIP.

We all knew it was coming, but "you couldn't make it up."

[ClaretMoffitt]

Just heard on news that Carswell, the only UKIP MP, has declared himself independent of UKIP.

We all knew it was coming, but "you couldn't make it up."

UKIP are an irrelevant party and have been since leave won and Farage stepped down. The process has only been hastened with the appointment of that moron nuttall as leader.