Chants v Germany

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:13 am

Is this really that surprising or that offensive. Many journalists are harping on in faux horror about people singing about 2 world wars etc. Nobody is blaming is modern Germans but with a history of having started 2 world wars and committed atrocities along the way I think there will always be this sort of chanting.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:15 am

What about all the atrocities our nation has committed over the course of its history?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:16 am

It's not like any of the Germans in attendance were responsible for any of the atrocities committed. It is inappropriate.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:18 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:What about all the atrocities our nation has committed over the course of its history?

What about them?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:28 am

Well... Why is it just what we say to X Y Z? They've done this, they've done that. It's all relative, I suppose. I just don't know what the initial post is referring to, in terms of.... Someone being up in arms about chanting at the Germans about some world wars. Every nation has gone on to commit some kind of atrocitiy.

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:38 am

Group of England supporters in London act like swaggering unwelcoming arrogant t***s.

Wow, that really has opened my eyes.

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:40 am

Singing chants because of atrocities committed in the past... ok that's a song sorted for when England play Argentina, Brazil, Congo, Germany, Uruguay, USA, Turkey, Japan, Russia, Serbia to name just a few. Maybe they should sing it to themselves during the player's warmup too. Bellend

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:44 am

It's moronic and embarrassing.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:53 am

It's all a little Basil Fawlty really.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:06 pm

The Brass Band often plays the theme from Tge Great Escape. Should they be censored ?

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:10 pm

So as a teenager I'll kill a few hundred million people from another nation or two just like my dear daddy did 30 years before me then when I'm 80 plus I'll be all offended when I'm on a footy match with my son and grandson cos people from the nationn whose ancestors I slaughtered and tortured have a sing song at my expense.
**** me what a twisted sense of morality do the politically correct preach.

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:14 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:So as a teenager I'll kill a few hundred million people from another nation or two just like my dear daddy did 30 years before me then when I'm 80 plus I'll be all offended when I'm on a footy match with my son and grandson cos people from the nationn whose ancestors I slaughtered and tortured have a sing song at my expense.
**** me what a twisted sense of morality do the politically correct preach.

Christ almighty, your school teachers clearly failed you.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:16 pm

The brass band should be shot, whatever they play.

Does anyone know if the Germans sing to the Russians about Eylau, or the Uman Pocket?

Do the French sing to us about Formingy and Castillion?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:16 pm

Not really a surprise when you look at the songs some clubs aim at each other.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:19 pm

Rangers fans have it right I suppose...lads just enjoying themselves.

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Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:35 pm

I like the brass band

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:55 pm

Did you know that Domestos kills 99% of all known Germans?

I don't buy the stuff, it's rubbish...

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:00 pm

'The brass band should be shot, whatever they play.'

Amen to that.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:11 pm

Two World Wars and a World Cup, do dah...recurring.

At which point do we stop celebrating our victories?

If the Germans had won the 2nd World War I wouldn't be here to press the Submit button in...now...

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:36 pm

I can't wait to see what happens next time we play Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia. (Or Isreal, if you believe they were responsible for 9/11)

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:45 pm

Saudi Arabia away would be interesting.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:48 pm

Diesel wrote:Saudi Arabia away would be interesting.

At least they'd be sober

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:53 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:At least they'd be sober

I'd rather our lads were legless than headless...

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:00 pm

Il Duce wrote:Christ almighty, your school teachers clearly failed you.

I'm just a pussycat, just having a hissy fit earlier, get irked by the moral high ground types.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:07 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What about all the atrocities our nation has committed over the course of its history?

If any other nation wants to make up a chant about Englands gloriously dubious past then they can crack on for me.

you only won because they had spears.
you only won because they had spears.
you went to Zululand
and only won because they had spears

your criminals do better
your criminals do better
you stuck them on an Island
and now they do better than you.

clentclaret · Post by **clentclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:44 pm

They should sing to us: 4 world cups and no world wars .....

Also love the people slagging off the band. All the England away games I've been to ALL the England fans love the band. You're either in the minority or don't go to away games, which is it?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:24 pm

I'm not one to usually criticise our support but some of the chants are cringeworthy at best.

However on a day where we had the horrible event in London and the respect shown by the Germans after the 'British Olympic' national anthem, I thought as a given, we should have shown a bit of decorum and respect.

I'm all for taking the ****, but having lived in a European country for six years, I know that you're already labelled as a hoolie/English tw@t if you like football and a beer. That's without the moronic singing or setting fire to flags.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:39 pm

Anyone who likes the Band also likes goal music.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:23 am

clentclaret wrote:All the England away games I've been to ALL the England fans love the band.

That's quite possibly the least surprising thing I've ever heard. Most travelling England fans are utter cretins, so it's no surprise that they love the embarrassing band and their instrumental excretions.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:54 am

JohnMcGreal wrote: Most travelling England fans are utter cretins

That'll go nicely with your 'most leave the European Union voters are racist' opinion that you have John.

You're a strange fella. Where does the hatred come from John?

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:56 am

All Germans I have met are really decent folk, very welcoming and friendly to me as an englishman on my visits to various German towns and cities.

England fans are pathetic. Not in my name.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:03 am

Bet they love 'patriotic' cringeworthy crap ads like this..

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Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:00 am

As ever nowadays people queuing up to be offended by anything that happens to be available. Wouldn't sing these songs myself but who the hell cares ? .......as Fulledge says let anyone who fancies singing about our own dubious past get on with it if they want.
Put me down as a volunteer for the firing squad for the brass band though.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:08 am

Oi! Get in the queue!

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:30 am

Saxoman wrote:All Germans I have met are really decent folk, very welcoming and friendly to me as an englishman on my visits to various German towns and cities.

Until you started talking, presumably?

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