Trump bombs Syria

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:31 am

50-60 Tomahawk missiles launched at an airbase in Syria, and so it begins

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:04 am

I've just checked this forum for a response to this and am amazed to find none. Take cover!

Clarinetclaret · Post by **Clarinetclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:09 am

America bombs Syria? Have they not been doing that for the last 2 years? In more news today is Friday.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:11 am

Depressing news.

I'm clutching at straws here but at least the media might start to scrutinize the West's bombing objectives a bit more sharply now.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:53 am

Clarinetclaret wrote:America bombs Syria? Have they not been doing that for the last 2 years? In more news today is Friday.

no, they've been doing it a lot longer than that

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:33 am

I wonder if Trump let his fairly important Chinese visitor know that the USA were going to let a few loose at Syria..?

Did the Chinese tourist [Chinese President Xi Jinping] have a view on this, and did he find out from ABC or CBS News?

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:33 am

I wonder if Trump let his fairly important Chinese visitor know that the USA were going to let a few loose at Syria..?

Did the Chinese tourist [Chinese President Xi Jinping] have a view on this, and did he find out from ABC or CBS News?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:06 am

Trump supporters rightly lived over this. They voted for him to avoid this sort of thing with hillary. The likes of PJW and Lauren Southern have already denounced support for him after this.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:21 am

Any regime that would use chemical weapons on its own people need bombing.
Well done Mr Trump,now launch a few at Al-assad's palace's.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:29 am

bartons baggage wrote:Any regime that would use chemical weapons on its own people need bombing.
Well done Mr Trump,now launch a few at Al-assad's palace's.

They lied about iraq, they lied about Lybia, but I suppose they are telling the truth this time with Syria and everything is totally what they say it is. I mean after all, what could possibly go wrong with removing a largely secular leader from an unstable middle eastern country? I'm sure it won't escalate things with Russia either. Everything will be fine.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:40 am

Trump needs to be have a slice of history, he never was going to keep out of foreign ventures, he's got his eye on Iran and North Korea and probably wouldn't mind a showdown with China.
Bullies remain bullies until they meet their match, sadly there are non around so he's got a field day.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:46 am

Ruh roh...

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ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:51 am

A boy with his new toys, just had to use them, the reaction by the American public will be critical because they elected him to solve their problems not to become a foreign adventurer, but of course aggression always has its followers in the US.
Making America Great again.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:51 am

But the lefties said that Trump was in Putin's pocket?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:57 am

claretandy wrote:But the lefties said that Trump was in Putin's pocket?

That's because they are idiots.

There is certainly reason to believe he is in someone's pocket in house though after this all mighty turn around.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:06 am

In ref to that tweet, who's 45?

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:32 am

Sidney1st wrote:In ref to that tweet, who's 45?

DT, so they do not get accused of something illegal, I suppose.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:41 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:They lied about iraq, they lied about Lybia, but I suppose they are telling the truth this time with Syria and everything is totally what they say it is. I mean after all, what could possibly go wrong with removing a largely secular leader from an unstable middle eastern country? I'm sure it won't escalate things with Russia either. Everything will be fine.

Assad being a secular leader doesn't mean it's OK to do the **** he does. Saddam Hussein was a largely secular leader too in the sense that he didn't enforce fundamentalist islamic law on his subjects but he was still a monumental ****.

I don't think for a second that Trump gives a **** about the victims of this chemical attack (when he welcomes them to America i'll change my tune), and i'm pleasantly surprised that he even bothered to respond militarily at all, but at least this strike against the airfield that this chemical attack likely originated from should give Assad pause before thinking of using Sarin or other chemical weapons again.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:43 am

Sidney1st wrote:In ref to that tweet, who's 45?

45th president. (44th really because Americans cant count)

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:47 am

Extremely erratic turnaround. I personally do not believe Assad would risk doing this. He has (had) the upper hand. Why would he need to go to such extremes? Trump is a dangerous buffoon who should be removed, one way or another, as soon as possible.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:51 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Trump supporters rightly lived over this. They voted for him to avoid this sort of thing with hillary. The likes of PJW and Lauren Southern have already denounced support for him after this.

As with brexit they were warned by smart liberals and smart conservatives that he wasn't the anti-globalist God they thought he was and yet they ignored everyone. How ******* stupid do you have to be to vote for someone who made their fortune from globalism to be an anti-globalist president? ******* imbeciles.

By the way, if you're informing yourself based on what The Rebel and Prison Planet tell you then that would explain an awful lot about the things you post. You're filling your head with alt right propaganda and conspiracy theories. You should probably reconsider your sources of news.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:03 am

Socialists can be much more dangerous than religious fanatics because there are no reference points to stop them, religions tend to have at there centre love, it is their exclusive nature and the odd contradictions which can be pounced on by those with a mission that make them dangerous.
Socialism with no morality is much more dangerous, people are expendable, as of course was capitalism, religion can keep the cap on fundamentally destructive behaviour.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:05 am

Some people are going to have real difficulty separating this action from the guy who ordered it.

It's the right thing to do, Assad gassed civilians (bluelabrador conspiracies aside). If nobody does anything at that point, when will they? And appeasing Putin can't last forever, it never does.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:16 am

ablueclaret wrote:Socialists can be much more dangerous than religious fanatics because there are no reference points to stop them, religions tend to have at there centre love, it is their exclusive nature and the odd contradictions which can be pounced on by those with a mission that make them dangerous.
Socialism with no morality is much more dangerous, people are expendable, as of course was capitalism, religion can keep the cap on fundamentally destructive behaviour.

Oh **** off with this "Religion gives us morality bullshit".

And by the way, there is not "endtimes" prophecy that socialists look forward to. So tell me more about how religion can keep a cap on destructive behaviour.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:25 am

"Trump won't do anything about Assad."

Who said this 24 hour ago

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:28 am

claretdom wrote:"Trump won't do anything about Assad."

Who said this 24 hour ago

I think I did. Why?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:34 am

No reason and not a dig before you launch into name calling mode.

Would you be against me running up say 100 t shirts with "I was there when turtle was wrong" printed on, I will offer you 35% from the profits ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:41 am

Of course it's a dig. That's basically all you do. You ask me a question, i give a considered, perfectly benign response and then you fire back with something crazy like "oh i think i understand, you want to kill all the Jews and eat babies". All you have are digs and shittalking.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:43 am

That a yes then ?

There is only the funny coloured dog who used to be a bird from trawden who wants to kill jews and you don't really strike me as a baby eater unless they are the jelly type.

Zugunruhe · Post by **Zugunruhe** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:45 am

An ex UK to Syria diplomat said it all for me. He said that if you're a jihadist you'll be cheering today.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:09 am

Alles egal.
Do nothing and the west is "standing idly by whilst innocent children suffer" (see the pictures we've taken); do something and "the west is using bullying tactics again" to pursue it's wicked goals.
It won't alter anything much in the middle east either way. Missile makers will be quite happy I guess.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:21 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:As with brexit they were warned by smart liberals and smart conservatives that he wasn't the anti-globalist God they thought he was and yet they ignored everyone. How ******* stupid do you have to be to vote for someone who made their fortune from globalism to be an anti-globalist president? ******* imbeciles.

By the way, if you're informing yourself based on what The Rebel and Prison Planet tell you then that would explain an awful lot about the things you post. You're filling your head with alt right propaganda and conspiracy theories. You should probably reconsider your sources of news.

I actually think Lauren in particular is very fair, balanced and straight. She's also not with rebel, she's been independent for a while now. Paul can say some moronic ****, and definitely is a sensationalist but at least has consistency.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:28 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:As with brexit they were warned by smart liberals and smart conservatives that he wasn't the anti-globalist God they thought he was and yet they ignored everyone. How ******* stupid do you have to be to vote for someone who made their fortune from globalism to be an anti-globalist president? ******* imbeciles.

By the way, if you're informing yourself based on what The Rebel and Prison Planet tell you then that would explain an awful lot about the things you post. You're filling your head with alt right propaganda and conspiracy theories. You should probably reconsider your sources of news.

The thing is, I've seen nothing impacted with brexit so far that I wasnt prepared to take a hit on or risk with the vote I made. I'm still optimistic about brexit and would think as are the vast majority of leave voters.

This Trump situation is different, though I was never an out and out supporter of his like I am with brexit. I was still a huge advocate of his policy to stay out of the middle east and refrain escalations with Russia. This has totally spat in the face of those promises. If I had voted for him and was an American citizen I'd be on the streets protesting right now over this. I've always had and voiced my concerns over him but this really goes beyond backsliding. Literally the first challenging situation he faced he totally rolled on his stance and what so many voted for on him, it's pathetic.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:55 am

US missile strike against Syria LIVE UPDATES

08:46 GMT
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said that the US strike on Syria reminds him of the attack on Iraq back in 2003, which was launched without approval from the UN Security Council.

“This reminds us of the 2003 situation, when the US and the UK, along with their allies, intervened in Iraq without approval from the UN Security Council, which was a blatant breach of international law,” Lavrov said.

https://www.rt.com/news/383785-us-missiles-syrian-army/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kevin Boyle

"I and millions like me preferred Trump to Clinton precisely because he said he would NOT attack Syria.
He has fallen to the Zionists and the media 'Russian agent' disinformation.
The US opposed a UN Inquiry into the "chemical attack" in Idlib. It is ridiculous to imagine that Assad would sink his own war against the rebels when he is so clearly winning. the rebels used chemical weapons in Aleppo last year. the russian assertion of bombs hitting a store of such weapons rings true.
Now that the US has destroyed the Homs air base, ISIS/AlQaeda are rushing into the vacuum to attack just as they did when the US killed a 62 Syrian troops in Deir El-Zour in Eastern Syria last year.
ISIS/Al Qaeda are western creations and they are "our boys" in the eyes of our lying leaders."

Ex-UK Ambassador: Assad wasn't behind the chemical attack

"Former British Ambassador to Syria Peter Ford says those calling for intervention in Syria are likes "dogs returning to their own vomit"
Peter Ford says he believes it is "highly unlikely" that Russia or the Assad regime was behind the attack in Idlib."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6Oa_aDS6E" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Comments: 141

"...Peter Ford...what a guy. Surely the Western MSM must now be prosecuted for crimes against humanity, costing lives and putting lives at risk in Syria. Justice must be pursued with the utmost vigour and resolve against these warmongering propagandists."

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:06 am

Zugunruhe wrote:An ex UK to Syria diplomat said it all for me. He said that if you're a jihadist you'll be cheering today.

The jihadists would be cheering no matter what happened after Assad gassed his own people. If the west didn't do anything they'd be saying "look, they don't give a **** about you like we do".

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:08 am

Anybody else noticed that Wolfie's outbursts are getting more and more vitriolic. (Is outburst the correct word for something that is now commonplace?). What used to be "you're stupid, you're an idiot" is now effing imbeciles etc . I think the red mist hormone is definitely on a hair trigger. It's as if as more people get used to his insults he feels that he has to up the game to get his adrenaline rush. A bit like a smack head that has to continually increase the dose to get to his own personal Nirvana.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:14 am

Chobulous wrote:Anybody else noticed that Wolfie's outbursts are getting more and more vitriolic. (Is outburst the correct word for something that is now commonplace?). What used to be "you're stupid, you're an idiot" is now effing imbeciles etc . I think the red mist hormone is definitely on a hair trigger. It's as if as more people get used to his insults he feels that he has to up the game to get his adrenaline rush. A bit like a smack head that has to continually increase the dose to get to his own personal Nirvana.

Lol. What? I think 'imbeciles' is a perfectly fair and measured way to describe Trump supporters who ignored people who were telling them that Trump isn't the God they think he is, who are then shocked and outraged when Trump turns out not to be the God they thought he was.

Can you think of a more appropiate way to describe these gullible fools?

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:15 am

Imploding Turtle

"The jihadists would be cheering no matter what happened after Assad gassed his own people. If the west didn't do anything they'd be saying "look, they don't give a **** about you like we do"."

Could you provide evidence for the assertion that Assad gassed his own people.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:17 am

No shock to see the idiot labrador has spent last day or 2 with eyes closed and fingers in his/hers ears shouting nonsense

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:31 am

bluelabrador16 wrote:Imploding Turtle

Could you provide evidence for the assertion that Assad gassed his own people.

Yes. Contemporaneous reporting in the aftermath of the showing that it occured and it's victims, along with the Pentagon saying that they have radar footage of Assad's bombers taking off from the airbase and flying towards the city at a time consistent with the attack. Russia stated that they had no planes in the area at the time of the attack and the lack of contradictory radar evidence from the Pentagon supports the idea that Russia had nothing militarily to do with it.

Or, maybe they were all actors a part of a massive hoax.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:34 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yes. Contemporaneous reporting in the aftermath of the showing that it occured and it's victims, along with the Pentagon saying that they have radar footage of Assad's bombers taking off from the airbase and flying towards the city at a time consistent with the attack. Russia stated that they had no planes in the area at the time of the attack and the lack of contradictory radar evidence from the Pentagon supports the idea that Russia had nothing militarily to do with it.

.

Yeah but apart from that

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:38 am

Also, and this would be a little but ironic but Trump should have got congressional approval for this bombing (exactly why Obama couldn't do anything the last time Assad did this) so imagine if Trump actually got himself impeached for doing something people like me supported.

Zugunruhe · Post by **Zugunruhe** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:47 am

There is no evidence ATM. Nothing has been substantiated.

Like I said, I bet the jihadists and Isis are happy today.

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:58 am

the news for me is obviously in who the target was, I "believe" first time against Assad, and anyone who believes Assad is not a terrorist is an ostrich. and I believe the American public will be wholly behind this strike in the majority. The chemical attack was a complete about face and who did it is the only thing that may be questionable, am quite sure it was done but who ordered it I don't know Yet the Americans obviously have a firm belief and some form of evidence about who did it, I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now, if they simply did not know then it would not have happened, or would it!

A line has been drawn and the Assad regime now know where the line is, will they want to put there tootsies over the line again only time will tell.

However no one will be in two minds as to whether Trump/America will act I think is now displaced, but you never know with some people.

politician's lying, whatever next, that was the main news I read in this litany of garbage, made me actually gasp and check major news sources for confirmation of it, alas it appears to be just more fake news

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:02 pm

KateR wrote:the news for me is obviously in who the target was, I "believe" first time against Assad, and anyone who believes Assad is not a terrorist is an ostrich. and I believe the American public will be wholly behind this strike in the majority. The chemical attack was a complete about face and who did it is the only thing that may be questionable, am quite sure it was done but who ordered it I don't know Yet the Americans obviously have a firm belief and some form of evidence about who did it, I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now, if they simply did not know then it would not have happened, or would it!

A line has been drawn and the Assad regime now know where the line is, will they want to put there tootsies over the line again only time will tell.

However no one will be in two minds as to whether Trump/America will act I think is now displaced, but you never know with some people.

politician's lying, whatever next, that was the main news I read in this litany of garbage, made me actually gasp and check major news sources for confirmation of it, alas it appears to be just more fake news

Mrs Palin, is that you?

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:45 pm

Trump had no other choice but to take military action. He had to show a strong arm not just to the Syrians, but also to the Russians who have gained a foot hold in the middle east due to the weakness of Obama.

Trump will be good for the west, and a relief from the weakness and incompetence of Obama.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:50 pm

maytham‏
@maytham956

Those are #Trump's new allies in #Syria #Trum_make_ISIS_great_again

https://twitter.com/maytham956/status/8 ... 0641610753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Katie Hopkins

"Why is Trump talking military action against the only man, the only country standing fast against the tide of mediaeval religious fanaticism."

maytham‏

#AlNusra terrorists are targeting #Hama airbase with grad missiles.
This come after #US attack on AlShouairat airbase.
Very convenient!

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:59 pm

So,
Iran, Hezbollah and Russia support the Syrian government. There are over 1000 rebel groups including IS and Kurds. Saudi support many of the rebels including IS. Turkey hate Syria and also the Kurds. Syria gasses its own people. The coalition, including UK, France and US are bombing IS in Syria and Iraq. Rebels are recruiting from western countries, including UK. Now USA have decided to unilaterally bomb a Syrian airbase.

What could possibly go wrong?

Clarinetclaret · Post by **Clarinetclaret** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:16 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:So,
Iran, Hezbollah and Russia support the Syrian government. There are over 1000 rebel groups including IS and Kurds. Saudi support many of the rebels including IS. Turkey hate Syria and also the Kurds. Syria gasses its own people. The coalition, including UK, France and US are bombing IS in Syria and Iraq. Rebels are recruiting from western countries, including UK. Now USA have decided to unilaterally bomb a Syrian airbase.

What could possibly go wrong?

This is the Middle East, you talk like all this is something new over there.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:17 pm

Well worth watching:

Hanin Elias at Damascus Kassa.

Interview with British Journalist Tom Duggan in Damascus Kasaa at the French Hospital
tells us about the chemical attacks accusations:

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