If I was Keane

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If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:28 am

I'd stay at this club until we get relegated, he might never get a better pairing again, him and Mee are made for each other.
I'm sure the lure of money and fame are great but for me he will do better here than moving.
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by DCWat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:30 am

I'm sure he will think he is plenty capable of forming a great partnership with a new, potentially world class partner.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:31 am

Of course we'd all like to think that.

In reality I'm sure he's more interested about being as successful as he can be and or as rich as he can be.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:35 am

I'm sure he is capable of forging a new partnership but it is often the one you have which turns out to be the best. I'd have said he could do with another years growth before making the move which will define his career

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Paul Waine » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:38 am

ablueclaret wrote:I'd stay at this club until we get relegated, he might never get a better pairing again, him and Mee are made for each other.
I'm sure the lure of money and fame are great but for me he will do better here than moving.
Got to disagree. What if we never get relegated again?

Of course, I want Michael Keane to stay and for the whole team to move up the Premier League - adding new players to become a regular "top 10 team" and "doing a Leicester" once in a while winning the Premier League.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by minnieclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:39 am

Lovely thought, abc, but he will improve faster training every day against world class strikers and playing in higher profile matches.
I hope he stays but I'm not holding my breath.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Sidney1st » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:39 am

He could stay another season, maybe sign a 1 year extension, but he'd then possibly miss out on his move or have a nightmare of a season with us.
He could have another top season with us, but who knows.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:39 am

While not everyone is money motivated, even believe it or not fooballers in some cases most are motivated by success and being the best they can. I am sure Keane can play at a higher level for the next ten years than he is noe. So for that reason he will and should move on. We just need to hope like with strikers for the past twenty years we replace him with better.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:39 am

He has to move while is stock is so high.
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:42 am

Think John Atyeo, the King of the City.
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by clarethomer » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:43 am

He looks like he is on track to secure an England place now.

He seems to be attracting a lot of plaudits so naturally probably puts his agent and him in a great position to get a move which will give him a good opportunity to go to a more established PL team where he has a realistic chance of being 1st choice.

He will want to move to earn more money - 1 bad tackle and your career is over.
He will want to play with teams who possibly will play in Europe
He will want to play with players who are better than what we have - he will want to prove he can cut it at the highest level.

He won't want to stay at Burnley just because things are good for him at the moment.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:46 am

I've thought John Atyeo but it has no relevance to this latest nonsense of a thread you've started.

Michael Keane is a future long term international footballer. Apart from anything else, Gareth Southgate has already said he wants his regular England players to be playing in Champions League games and Premier League title chasing teams. Keano needs to move on to further his career. We've played a massive part in it but the time will come soon when he really has to go and play for one of the bigger clubs.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:47 am

Do people really need that sort of money, better to be playing football than looking in from the wings.
Yes he probably will move but he might never enjoy the same central partnership again, a partnership of equals based on mutual respect, that's often hard to find in the world of football.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:49 am

You don't think we can be challenging for European football CT. You of little faith. Once we get a new striker, a holding midfielder and a rapid winger we'll be challenging the best.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by alicante claret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:49 am

If he doesn't sign extension to contract and we are safe any value in playing Tarks in his place for last games of season?

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:51 am

No reason we cant get i europe. But for now at least it would be the exception not the rule.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:52 am

ClaretTony wrote:I've thought John Atyeo but it has no relevance to this latest nonsense of a thread you've started.

Michael Keane is a future long term international footballer. Apart from anything else, Gareth Southgate has already said he wants his regular England players to be playing in Champions League games and Premier League title chasing teams. Keano needs to move on to further his career. We've played a massive part in it but the time will come soon when he really has to go and play for one of the bigger clubs.
Totally agree with this.
Which makes the links to Everton a bit odd.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:52 am

Staying at Burnley won't make his agent rich so expect the advice to be move on.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:52 am

Applying that argument CT, surely Dyche should be moving now to give him a chance of managing England, or does logic get thrown out the window then.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:54 am

ablueclaret wrote:Applying that argument CT, surely Dyche should be moving now to give him a chance of managing England, or does logic get thrown out the window then.
Have you been smoking exotic cigarettes?
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by KRBFC » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:05 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:He has to move while is stock is so high.
This
Plus hanging around with us can do his reputation no good, he's proven at our level but not the next stage. He also risks his body because a serious injury could strike at any time so financially he's better to move on asap and get the big wage, huge signing on fee and the security of a long contract incase such injury occurred.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by KRBFC » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:07 am

I think we as a club owe it to the players like Keane to leave to further their career, i'd hate for us to stand in their way.
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:07 am

He's broken into the English side with us, partly because we have one of the best defences in the World.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:08 am

KRBFC wrote:I think we as a club owe it to the players like Keane to leave to further their career, i'd hate for us to stand in their way.
Exactly and the bigger picture is we can attract more talent in future.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:09 am

ablueclaret wrote:He's broken into the English side with us, partly because we have one of the best defences in the World.
The World????

He is a major part of a very good PL defence, that's all.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:10 am

ablueclaret wrote:He's broken into the English side with us, partly because we have one of the best defences in the World.
:lol: Yer right tell the lads from Iceland that :lol:

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by KRBFC » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Exactly and the bigger picture is we can attract more talent in future.
Yup another off the conveyor belt. People will panic like they have down the years when we've sold strikers, even the likes of Andy Gray and Ade caused panic but we always find a way, Lafferty, Trippier, Chaplow, J Rod etc the next will be Keane & Gray then Tark and Agyei.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:19 am

KRBFC wrote:Yup another off the conveyor belt. People will panic like they have down the years when we've sold strikers, even the likes of Andy Gray and Ade caused panic but we always find a way, Lafferty, Trippier, Chaplow, J Rod etc the next will be Keane & Gray then Tark and Agyei.
The thing is that the majority of top players will inevitably want to go to the top 6 - 8 clubs. We can't stop them, but we can be astute enough to get top money and have replacements lined up.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by blackburnturfite » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:20 am

ablueclaret wrote:Think John Atyeo, the King of the City.
Attyeo mid 1950s, or i may be on the wrong one, surely things have moved on since then.? :roll:

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:23 am

blackburnturfite wrote:Attyeo mid 1950s, or i may be on the wrong one, surely things have moved on since then.? :roll:
He played through into the 1960s I think. He's got a stand named after him and a statue now at Ashton Gate.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Mala591 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:24 am

We must try and keep him. Offer him four year deal at £60,000 per week.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by bartons baggage » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:24 am

ablueclaret wrote:You don't think we can be challenging for European football CT. You of little faith. Once we get a new striker, a holding midfielder and a rapid winger we'll be challenging the best.
Your op says "until we get relegated",now your'e saying we'll be challenging the best.
FFS make your mind up you crank.
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by blackburnturfite » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:26 am

ablueclaret wrote:He's broken into the English side with us, partly because we have one of the best defences in the World.
You seem to be clinging on, are your finger ends not aching. :lol:
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by claretblue » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:33 am

'...but the time will come soon when he really has to go and play for one of the bigger clubs...'

about 6 more games I reckon! :cry:

He's been brilliant for Burnley and a main reason we've progressed!

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:43 am

I would be quite happy with my life at the moment and the prospect of £100 grand a week would be very welcome,unfortunately I'm not Michael Keane.:(

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Milltown1882 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:58 am

Even as a Burnley fan I'd rather be on 100k+ a week playing for a big club in Europe and playing for England regularly.

Good stepping stone for him and hope he goes on to do well.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:58 am

Got to admit money plays little part in my life, never needed much never wanted much, so maybe my advice doesn't sit well with the modern post Thatcher persona.
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:04 pm

Why should we get relegated once our midfield is finally sorted.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:29 pm

If we stay up we should be in a position to pay Keane what he is worth. If someone offers him silly money that would be different, but I imagine Keane isn't going to be the highest paid player at any of the top 10 clubs. Bearing in mind the cost of finding a replacement to us, it makes economic sense to do all we can to keep him onboard.
The publicity he gets playing for Burnley is doing his career no harm at all, so professionally there is very little for him to leave for. Champions League football maybe, but would he be a guaranteed starter at those clubs.

A big decision for him this summer, I hope he decides to stay. Our back 5 have been excellent this season, next season they can get even better.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by IanMcL » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:37 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Totally agree with this.
Which makes the links to Everton a bit odd.
Everton linked not Keane linked to Everton. His agent will do much lobbying of the bigger clubs.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by bfcmik » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:40 pm

I think he would fit in at Arsenal. Maybe a straight swap for Sanchez? :D

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by summitclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:07 pm

The DT today claim that Everton are heading the queue for Keano and also claim that Leicester will pay £30m for Gibson. Good news for us then if Gibson is rated at that.

£40m on 1st July (next tax year) and 3 points for us tomorrow and he is yours Everton.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by tim_noone » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:11 pm

ablueclaret wrote:I'd stay at this club until we get relegated, he might never get a better pairing again, him and Mee are made for each other.
I'm sure the lure of money and fame are great but for me he will do better here than moving.
Whats the obsession on this forum about being relegated? Get a grip!!
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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:27 pm

If you read what I say rather than jump with both feet you might see that I think we could be challenging for Europe with a few astute purchases.
If we can keep this defence together we will always be hard to beat.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by tim_noone » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:43 pm

ablueclaret wrote:If you read what I say rather than jump with both feet you might see that I think we could be challenging for Europe with a few astute purchases.
If we can keep this defence together we will always be hard to beat.
Yes point taken..... but you did say ' when we get relegated' could you specify when? Do you know something i dont? We are a premiership club.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:07 pm

ablueclaret wrote:I'd stay at this club until we get relegate....
We're getting relegated? :shock:

Ablueclaret, What if we stay in the Premier League?

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by lovebeingaclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:26 pm

When are you next up at Liverpool abc?

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by bfcmik » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:59 pm

If I was Keane I certainly wouldn't be checking this messageboard for advice on what I should do!

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:35 pm

Worth Keane remembering

Trippier Ings. Rodriguez

Yet it is two Burnley players who are in the England squad.

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Re: If I was Keane

Post by KefkaClaret » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:46 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Worth Keane remembering

Trippier Ings. Rodriguez

Yet it is two Burnley players who are in the England squad.

Ings and Rodriguez have been plagued by injuries. He's got the same chance of a serious injury here as he does somewhere else.

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