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Another shooting in the USA

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:31 pm

This time streamed live on Facebook. Seen the video and it's awful. A guy clearly at breaking point suffering from a mental illness.

When will America bring in gun control. What is the problem?

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by CombatClaret » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:37 pm

The genie is out of the bottle and a large number of armed people (and companies) don't want to put it back in.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:45 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote: What is the problem?

They're scared of the British coming back with their muskets.

The right for any American to own an assault rifle that fires 800 rounds a minute.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:51 pm

I know this thread won't be a surprise nor will I ever expect anything to change but man, it's sad.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:01 pm

It's only sad because we are swamped by American news, entertainment and culture because they (sometimes) speak English over there.

I'd be quite happy to be oblivious to how many people were shooting themselves or one another in the U.S.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:08 am

I will tell you that from when I first moved here 25 years ago I had the gun control argument on a regular basis and put my point across in your usual sane and normal manner. They just don't see it. It's ridiculous. About 10 years ago I stopped having these conversations out of choice because they are a time waster, it always goes the same way.

Their justification is what if the government goes bad they have guns we need more guns. If they get MORE guns we need more guns. And if someone else has guns and threatens my family I need guns.

You can't solve that it's an insecurity thats been entrenched for 200 years.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:12 am

it wasn't streamed live, it was uploaded - totally irrelevant mind you in the grand scheme of things

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Sidney1st » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:50 am

You'll never be able to take away their right to murder each other with guns.

Even when school kids are massacred, their answer is to allow more guns in schools.

They're a special kind of stupid, but there are so many guns out there now they'll never be able to get rid of them anyway.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by ThinLizzy » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:30 am

As has been suggested above. It's an insecurity that is entrenched in the American psyche. The 2nd Amendment states "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
You could argue that this amendment is null and void as they have formed a well regulated militia. It's called the US Army/National Guard.
That amendment will be fiercely protected by the NRA and it's supporters despite there not being any outside threat which cannot be protected and served better by their military.
Common sense says that if you allow anyone to own a gun, that the law of averages says there is likely to be an increase in the likelihood of a nutter getting hold of one.
The problem won't go away any time soon as they'll resort to the line that guns don't kill people, people kill people. There are also plenty of 'milita's' in the USA who mistrust their own government.
The only way to stop this is to amend the 2nd amendment and regulate guns. That is as far away as happening as it ever was.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:22 am

In an ideal world Britain would cut all ties with America.
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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:04 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:This time streamed live on Facebook. Seen the video and it's awful. A guy clearly at breaking point suffering from a mental illness.

When will America bring in gun control. What is the problem?

The problem in the way of meaningful gun law reform are clowns like this guy desperate to be a hero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-g1v-5I9ss&app=desktop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by dermotdermot » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:34 pm

I hear that they intend to bring in gun control just as soon as Trump is shot.

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by boiledclaret » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:53 pm

US news link for the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtYThf3Z_mM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by boiledclaret » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:41 pm

And another more interesting link, if it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zbiW7lD6pg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Another shooting in the USA

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:54 pm

boiledclaret wrote:And another more interesting link, if it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zbiW7lD6pg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Lol. I guess the guy has never heard of a phenomena called "shadows".

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