Brady on the back post

[Frenchclaret]

Just watched the second Everton goal again. Brady given the back post to defend from the corner moves away and forwards as it is crossed. Arfield who usually is stationed there would have remained on his post and headed it away, while Brady is in no-man's land and is beaten. Schoolboy error for SD to sort out.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Just disappointing we conceded another corner!

[Devils_Advocate]

It was the first goal and Brady didnt move away as it was crossed. As the ball was flicked on Brady made a move forward to try and intercept it but once he realised Jagielka was getting there first he tried to back up and cover the post.

He only looked out of position after the ball went past him into the net and came back out which by then it already was a goal.

[KRBFC]

If we really want to start pointing fingers then its not Brady you want to be pointing at.

[CFS]

One thing I take issue with is why Stephen ward stands in front of the GK when we attack corners. He has a fantastic header why we don't put him in to attack it is bizarre.

[cricketfieldclarets]

One thing I take issue with is why Stephen ward stands in front of the GK when we attack corners. He has a fantastic header why we don't put him in to attack it is bizarre.

Check out sunderlands goal on Saturday.

[KRBFC]

One thing I take issue with is why Stephen ward stands in front of the GK when we attack corners. He has a fantastic header why we don't put him in to attack it is bizarre.

Scored a couple from that position, Boro away last year and Bournemouth at home are two that stand out.

[CFS]

Check out sunderlands goal on Saturday.

Referring to attacking corners not defending them.

[bfccrazy]

Referring to attacking corners not defending them.

They had a goal from a direct corner with their keeper lumbered.

I think the point being that it could be another player in front of the keeper who is not as good as Ward in the air.

[ClaretTony]

Just watched the second Everton goal again. Brady given the back post to defend from the corner moves away and forwards as it is crossed. Arfield who usually is stationed there would have remained on his post and headed it away, while Brady is in no-man's land and is beaten. Schoolboy error for SD to sort out.

Can't agree with that at all - it wasn't as if Jagielka headed in the corner directly, there were two other touches. What do you want him to do, stand there permanently? Schoolboy error?

[ClaretTony]

One thing I take issue with is why Stephen ward stands in front of the GK when we attack corners. He has a fantastic header why we don't put him in to attack it is bizarre.

Got a lot of positive results from Ward doing that on corners.

[HiroshimaClaret]

Got a lot of positive results from Ward doing that on corners.

Brighton away instantly springs to mind for Gray`s equaliser.

[CFS]

Got a lot of positive results from Ward doing that on corners.

Not saying its not a good thing just saying prefer someone like gray doing that with ward attacking at set pieces.

[Frenchclaret]

Can't agree with that at all - it wasn't as if Jagielka headed in the corner directly, there were two other touches. What do you want him to do, stand there permanently? Schoolboy error?

As a defender you wait on the post until the danger is cleared or until the keeper/captain calls for the defence to move out. As an FA coach and a defender I would not have been pleased with Brady's movement. I consider him responsible for the goal. Yes, it was the first goal not the second.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Referring to attacking corners not defending them.

I know.

[Devils_Advocate]

As a defender you wait on the post until the danger is cleared or until the keeper/captain calls for the defence to move out. As an FA coach and a defender I would not have been pleased with Brady's movement. I consider him responsible for the goal. Yes, it was the first goal not the second.

What if the flick on would have landed a couple of yards in front have him and by his following of your instruction and standing still it would have given an Everton player a chance to get a foot on it and score. Pretty sure you'd be crticising him for switching off and not reacting to the danger

If you are and FA coach then the standard of coaching must be pretty low

[cricketfieldclarets]

Playing everyone onside too

[Wakefieldclaret]

Arfield did something similar in a game this season, can't remember the exact fixture but we conceded from it.

[Frenchclaret]

If you read the first line of my reply then you don't play everyone on-side if you go out all together under instruction from the keeper. As for IF the ball had landed a couple of yards in front of him - that is not what happened! If it had, then the keeper should move out to block the danger - he is the mobile one not the two defenders on the post. Just watch the replay from behind the goals and you will see Lowton doing his job and Brady isn't. Maybe he hasn't defended a post regularly unlike Arfield who usually stays put until the danger is cleared.

[Devils_Advocate]

The ball was flicked towards the far corner where Brady was stood and out of Heatons range. He rightly made a move towards where the ball was heading and instantly moved back on the post when he realised it was dropping nearer to Jagielka. He was actually still covering the back post when the ball beat him. He was only out of position when the ball came back out and that point the goal had been scored.

You stated he moved off the post when the ball was in the air from the corner which is not true

[Frenchclaret]

Whether it was in the air directly from the corner or not is irrelevant. The defenders are there to deal with the flick-ons. He should have stayed - yes he was beaten as he retreated because by that time he was leaving a gap between him and the post where the ball went. Look at the replay from behind the goals on Player and then think about what would have happened if he had not moved. It is an instinctive reaction to move towards the ball but a good defender does his job as instructed for a good reason.

[claretspice]

Arfield did something similar in a game this season, can't remember the exact fixture but we conceded from it.

It was Arsenal's handball winner at Burnley.

The fact two separate players have done the same thing makes me suspect the players have been instructed to leave the post of there is a near post flick, and so anyone who has a problem with it probably needs to direct their complaint to Dyche rather than at the player concerned.