when this season is over ??

[Wile E Coyote]

Could be a strange predicament down at the Turf when the final whistle blows on this season.
Assuming we make it to safety, the team under Sean Dyche will have pulled of a minor miracle.
Having gained promotion, we will have achieved the virtually impossible feat of surviving when barely anyone gave us a cat in hells chance.
What next though ?
Losing Keane is no trivial thing, There may be others who are lured away too.
The constant talk of moving on several other regular players due to age or contractual issues or poor form is inevitable.
We might find ourselves with a place in the Premier league and the additional cash windfall that goes with it, but without the very players that enabled us to succeed.
Bad situation to be in considering there will be from May to August to reconstruct a side capable of fighting it out again at this level.
We did end up shelling out a small fortune comparatively to bring Hendrick and Brady in.
Finding decent players at any level is tough, but there'd be little point in having transfer monies in the coffers if we flogged our finest footballers.

Lots bemoaned our lacklustre recruitment in recent times, not quite achieving our aims to bring in targets.
There is the Joey Barton saga to be resolved, rumours about Boyd, Arfield.
If say we lost Heaton to Everton because of his form and abilities, we would be on a hiding to nothing attempting to replicate someone of his class.

The huge clubs can forage abroad for 50 million quids worth of new talent, we cant.
Be a shame to see it untangle because we have to sell and fail to hold on to our stars.

[minnieclaret]

it'll be reyt.

[KRBFC]

We have to be very careful recruitment wise. PL clubs constantly try to progress and improve by gradually paying more and more in wages and fees and it goes t*ts up. It sounds a bit negative but we have to almost expect the worst next season to safe guard ourselves incase we do get relegated.

[bodge]

I think you underestimate Sean Dyche's managerial capabilities, he will have considered the potential upheaval in the Summer already, plans will be in place and we will be a more attractive proposition for incoming players.

Remember we will be in a stronger position than the teams coming up, even Newcastle, whilst it's likely we will have similar sized clubs in Watford and Bournemouth to finish above. Critical we seal the deal and then we need Dyche to knit next seasons squad together.

Don't know about you but i have every confidence that we'll do it again next time out with him at the helm.

[Wile E Coyote]

hope you're right with that assessment bodge.

[Mala591]

Boring premier league mid table safety vs the excitement of relegation and promotion.

Which would you choose?

[Juan Tanamera]

Relegation is exciting?

[bfcmik]

Boring premier league mid table safety vs the excitement of relegation and promotion.

Which would you choose?

Boring safety every time! A relegation campaign is no guarantee of a promotion campaign the following season - see Aston Villa, Basturds, Norwich, Wigan etc,

[ElectroClaret]

Boring safety also gets us another hundred million or so as well for stopping up.

Doesn't it?

[KRBFC]

I think you underestimate Sean Dyche's managerial capabilities, he will have considered the potential upheaval in the Summer already, plans will be in place and we will be a more attractive proposition for incoming players.

Remember we will be in a stronger position than the teams coming up, even Newcastle, whilst it's likely we will have similar sized clubs in Watford and Bournemouth to finish above. Critical we seal the deal and then we need Dyche to knit next seasons squad together.

Don't know about you but i have every confidence that we'll do it again next time out with him at the helm.

I think our transfer windows under Dyche thus far have shown very little pre-planned work on reflection. A lot of panic buys, bids rejected and generally little signings made early.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I think our transfer windows under Dyche thus far have shown very little pre-planned work on reflection. A lot of panic buys, bids rejected and generally little signings made early.

Heaton
Lowton
Keane
Hendrick
Barnes
Guddy
etc

Aye, no planning and plenty of panicking.

[Wile E Coyote]

its not so much about what has been done as what will happen next. For all the complaints about failing to lure the first choice targets before, we still managed to make a decent and resiliant team with the ones we did get over the line.
The problem might be the loss of talent, not the managers ability to attract new ones through the summer.
Imagine a defence without Michael Keane, or without Tom Heaton in the nets. We will struggle if we aren't careful.

[fidelcastro]

Heaton
Lowton
Keane
Hendrick
Barnes
Guddy
etc

Aye, no planning and plenty of panicking.

It matters not BOT. He doesn't want Dyche signing players anyway... he's taken us as far as he can apparently.

[fidelcastro]

its not so much about what has been done as what will happen next. For all the complaints about failing to lure the first choice targets before, we still managed to make a decent and resiliant team with the ones we did get over the line.
The problem might be the loss of talent, not the managers ability to attract new ones through the summer.
Imagine a defence without Michael Keane, or without Tom Heaton in the nets. We will struggle if we aren't careful.

We'll see if Tarkowski is up to it next season. I personally think he'll do well.

If the worst was to happen and Heaton was lured away, then we'll have plenty of money to find a replacement!

[dsr]

Just a thought - are you worrying yet about the failure to sign players in the January 2018 window? Or have you got enough to do, worrying about the players leaving in July and the failure to sign suitable replacements in August?

I'd suggest you worry only to the extent that it will make a practical difference to the fortunes of the club. No more.

[Wile E Coyote]

Just a thought - are you worrying yet about the failure to sign players in the January 2018 window? Or have you got enough to do, worrying about the players leaving in July and the failure to sign suitable replacements in August?

I'd suggest you worry only to the extent that it will make a practical difference to the fortunes of the club. No more.

no.
never a week goes by on here without dozens of posts about **** performances, and players not being good enough.
Now it is clear our best player is off soon, then it stands to reason if we are left with mediocre and clearly unpopular regulars as judged by our supporters, then its a fairly normal response on a clarets forum to highlight a possible flaw in our plans to strengthen rather than deplete our squad.

[Jimmymaccer]

I,ll be going to Spain for my holidays.............and sit by the pool waiting for fixtures to be announced and seeing we have no local derby against Barstewards.......

Shame.

[Paul Waine]

I think our transfer windows under Dyche thus far have shown very little pre-planned work on reflection. A lot of panic buys, bids rejected and generally little signings made early.

Hi KRBFC, I suspect you confuse the other clubs wanting to hold onto their players as Burnley not wanting to get their transfer business completed early. I'm sure you understand, as we all do, that there are 3 parties in most transfers: Current club, player (and his agents) and New club. Only when a player has "fulfilled his existing contract" does the "current club" disappear from the equation. Of course, when there's competition to sign a player there are multiple "new club" in the model.

Yes, I'm sure Burnley, as with many other clubs, have found themselves in situations when they don't get their first target signings and so have to look at who else is available. That's what transfer windows do, they create a market place (yes, Burnley sit's near the "cheap seats" and the big clubs in the "expensive seats") and all the market activity is compressed into the transfer window. The same is true of other "trading windows" - The London Metals Exchange (LME) has operated a "trading window" or "ring" for many years, all the buyers and sellers focused their trading into the last few minutes, rather than spread it evenly through all of the window. The same happens in crude oil and refined products where traders participate in the "Platts window" 3 times a day, firstly in Singapore, then London and finally Houston.

[Paul Waine]

Just a thought - are you worrying yet about the failure to sign players in the January 2018 window? Or have you got enough to do, worrying about the players leaving in July and the failure to sign suitable replacements in August?

I'd suggest you worry only to the extent that it will make a practical difference to the fortunes of the club. No more.

I'd be surprised if the directors aren't already thinking about the end of the 2017/18 season - after we've maintained Premier League status for a second consecutive season. (And, as good business men, they will have a Plan B in the event that there are at least 17 clubs that achieve more points than Burnley).

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[Burnleyareback2]

May

[KRBFC]

Heaton
Lowton
Keane
Hendrick
Barnes
Guddy
etc

Aye, no planning and plenty of panicking.

I said "little planning" not "no planning", I really shouldn't have to explain these things, its basic English and reading skills.

[Buxtonclaret]

Boring premier league mid table safety vs the excitement of relegation and promotion.

Which would you choose?

Wouldn't mind a few seasons of boring mid table safety myself.
On our own terms, of course, without chucking daft money at mercenaries.

[pauliopaulio]

Why do some people find negatives in any situation? If we achieve the minor miracle of stopping up please take a moment away from your worries and celebrate. As for our best players leaving, a similar thing happened at the end of our last PL season - didn't do us that much harm did it and arguably we now have a much better team / squad as a result.

[Roosterbooster]

I think our transfer windows under Dyche thus far have shown very little pre-planned work on reflection. A lot of panic buys, bids rejected and generally little signings made early.

While I agree with a good chunk of the this post (bids rejected, late signings), I'm not sure this shows evidence of a lack of planning, just potential to improve in execution. I'm not sure what is classed as a panic buy. Maybe Defour, but if panic buys give us more players of his calibre I'll be one happy bunny. I think it's been clear that Dyche has his targets set out, but we don't necessarily have the resources to get the deals over the line. Most signings seem to be done last minute, that's the nature of how transfers are done. People are holding out for the best deal. I've been critical of our transfer activity in the past, but I do think we have improved since our last PL campaign. Having said that, with the definite concern that some important players will be gone in the summer, I think this summer could be extremely difficult. One thing's for sure though, it'll keep this board nice and busy!

[KRBFC]

While I agree with a good chunk of the this post (bids rejected, late signings), I'm not sure this shows evidence of a lack of planning, just potential to improve in execution. I'm not sure what is classed as a panic buy. Maybe Defour, but if panic buys give us more players of his calibre I'll be one happy bunny. I think it's been clear that Dyche has his targets set out, but we don't necessarily have the resources to get the deals over the line. Most signings seem to be done last minute, that's the nature of how transfers are done. People are holding out for the best deal. I've been critical of our transfer activity in the past, but I do think we have improved since our last PL campaign. Having said that, with the definite concern that some important players will be gone in the summer, I think this summer could be extremely difficult. One thing's for sure though, it'll keep this board nice and busy!

Dyche as a PL manager identified he needed two forwards to help fight relegation, you're not telling me he wrote down Marvin Sordell and Juke. Complete panic buys when Deeney was out of reach. I'm not sure how the next best thing to bidding £10M on Deeney was to buy Sordell for £200k. Obvious bidding to pull the wool over fans eyes and try to convince us they were willing to spend. Andre Gray another panic buy after the other 5 strikers we bought were tosh.

[Chester Perry]

so no planning - no working out want kind of players we want OR working within our constraints thinking what is best for the club

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... an_market/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[KRBFC]

so no planning - no working out want kind of players we want OR working within our constraints thinking what is best for the club

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... an_market/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another who doesn't understand the difference between little and non. I've pointed out once, mind blowing that I have to point it out for a second time. Btw in reference to the article you posted, talk is cheap.

[Cooperclaret]

You really are a sad act KBRFC.

So argumentative behind a key board

[evensteadiereddie]

[Chester Perry]

either way KRBFC I believe there is much more planning than you appear to do - or maybe it is not the planning you want - now that is a much more likely scenario and nothing wrong with you having a differing perspective on that count

also Dyche has stated publicly that the January signings were more about next year as he would have them for a full pre-season -that is forward planning in my book