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European qualification

Post by Goddy » Mon May 01, 2017 10:06 pm

Now forgive me for getting ahead of myself but am I right in thinking that if Man U win the Europa League and finish outside the top 4 then they would qualify for the Champions League along with the top 4.

Would that mean that there would be no qualifier for Europe from the League Cup (as Man U won it), so the next 3 places in the league would qualify for the Europa League i.e. 8th place in the league gets in?

If so, then all to play for esp as WBA (currently 8th) have some tough games and might just stuff it up.

Anyhow, as I say, forgive me for inferring that we could sneak a Europa League place.

Those in the know, please put me right regarding European qualification and over-optimism about our chances (esp when we haven't quite nailed staying in this league just yet!!)

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Re: European qualification

Post by KRBFC » Mon May 01, 2017 10:10 pm

Whatever happened to the fair play system?

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Re: European qualification

Post by Sidney1st » Mon May 01, 2017 10:10 pm

We'd only end up with someone as allegedly crap as Trelleborg and lose to them...
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Re: European qualification

Post by tim_noone » Mon May 01, 2017 10:16 pm

And someone said Brighton we're getting delusions of grandeur talking about Real Madrid haha....

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Re: European qualification

Post by dsr » Mon May 01, 2017 10:18 pm

Have you considered changing your name to Giddy? :D ;)
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Re: European qualification

Post by minnieclaret » Mon May 01, 2017 11:22 pm

England only get 4 CL places in total. So if Manure were to win the best of the rest cup and finish 5th they would get CL place and 4th placed team would drop down to EL.
I don't know how many EL places we get in total.

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Re: European qualification

Post by dsr » Mon May 01, 2017 11:29 pm

minnieclaret wrote:England only get 4 CL places in total. So if Manure were to win the best of the rest cup and finish 5th they would get CL place and 4th placed team would drop down to EL.
I don't know how many EL places we get in total.
I thought they changed that rule, after Liverpool won the European Cup and the fourth place team (Everton?) missed out? Or did that rule only change for winners fo the European Cup, not the UEFA Cup? [Or whatever they call themselves nowadays.]

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Re: European qualification

Post by SirAlec » Tue May 02, 2017 12:06 am

Everton only missed out because they got beat in the qualification rounds, it was to a Spanish side I think. otherwise we'd of had five English sides in it that year.

If United win the Europa cup we will have 5 in next year if they all get through qualifiers

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Re: European qualification

Post by minnieclaret » Tue May 02, 2017 12:29 am

SirAlec wrote:Everton only missed out because they got beat in the qualification rounds, it was to a Spanish side I think. otherwise we'd of had five English sides in it that year.

If United win the Europa cup we will have 5 in next year if they all get through qualifiers
my understanding was that because of the 5, when Lpool were holders, that would never happen again?

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Re: European qualification

Post by Saxoman » Tue May 02, 2017 12:33 am

You looking to play in the isle of man tournament again? ;)

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Re: European qualification

Post by bfcmik » Tue May 02, 2017 12:37 am

It looks like we would have 5 in the Champions League and 3 in the Europa. Should Chelsea win the FA Cup then that place would go to the second highest placed team who hadn't qualified for The Champions league and the League Cup winners place to the third highest non Champions League position. So could be 6th, 7th and 8th to qualify for the Europa League (or it might not!)
Clear as mud :o
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Re: European qualification

Post by Dazzler » Tue May 02, 2017 1:00 am

Lets just say we do qualify for the europa league by finishing 8th.
We would most probably have to play in the first qualifying round where the first leg will be played on 29th of June.
Giving the squad very little time off before returning for pre-Season training.
I suppose we could view the tie as a pre-season friendly.

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Re: European qualification

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Tue May 02, 2017 1:04 am

I think that some people need to calm down a bit!! Great result on Saturday but come on....
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Re: European qualification

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Tue May 02, 2017 8:29 am

Only 4 CL spots even if Utd win the EL

When Chelsea won the CL Spurs finished 4th and missed out on CL cos Chelsea finished outside the top 4

Same would apply

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Re: European qualification

Post by claretgoss » Tue May 02, 2017 8:52 am

We can have 5 teams in the Champions League now, but only a maximum of 7 in total in Europe still. So it looks like if United won the Europa but finished fifth or lower, they'd join the top 4 in the CL and just Everton and either 5th or 6th (whichever United aren't) would go into the EL

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Re: European qualification

Post by Corky » Tue May 02, 2017 8:53 am

Dare to dream and all that. I can still remember watching us get beat by Eintracht Frankfurt and never dreamed we would get and stay in the Premier League. Never say never.

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Re: European qualification

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Tue May 02, 2017 8:59 am

I'm not saying never but this season is pushing it a bit.

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