Llorente and Negredo

[PremierLeagueClass]

Would either of these come to Burnley? Both would suit our style of play whilst adding quality.

What other players would you be looking at from the relegated/likely relegated clubs?

[Down_Rover]

Not Negredo. Useless mercenary.

lorente maybe but where we would the crosses come for him

[Tall Paul]

Not Negredo. Useless mercenary.

lorente maybe but where we would the crosses come for him

We put loads of crosses into Palace's box on Saturday, we even scored from one of them.

[MarkGreen]

Negredo: Goals (9) - Age (31) - Wage (£100,000 a week)
Gray: Goals (9) - Age (25) - Wage (? Less than half ?)

I'll stick with Gray over Negredo! I know he hasn't been a world beater this season, but I think his ban really affected him even til now.

I think and hope we will see a different player in Gray next season if he is still in our squad.

[ThinLizzy]

Not Negredo. Useless mercenary.

lorente maybe but where we would the crosses come for him

You'd suspect we'd be bringing someone in. I second Llorente though. His ability to hang in the air is quite astonishing.

[dushanbe]

Signing players like Negredo is the shortcut to administration.

[Sidney1st]

Negredo has scored 28 league goals in 4 years, including his 9 at City.

No thanks.


I didn't realise Llorente was that old either, at 32 is he really someone we should look at signing?

[cricketfieldclarets]

Both are an upgrade on Barnes and Vokes not Gray.

Thats the area we should be lookikg to strengthen before Gray inless he goes.

Very good players who bring goals but also far more.

[claretdom]

If we were going to have a forward currently playing for a team below us I would rather have Niasse. I know he is an Everton player but clearly not someone with a future there.

[claretspice]

Hard to think of two players who less reflect the ethos of our squad.

Llorente has scored a few goals this season, but I think in terms of sprints and distance covered, he's one of the lowest performers in the league. He basically just goal hangs. That's fine, but it doesn't work in a team which demands that attackers defend from the front or work to provide an outlet when the team is under pressure. Negredo appears to me to work a bit harder, but he's certainly not going to offer the same intensity as Barnes or even Vokes offers us at the top of our attack.

But more fundamentally, these are players who have spent much of their career playing at an elite level, and who now seem to be touring round lesser clubs for the final few years of their careers, commanding wages way in excess of their counterparts at clubs. With the possible exception of Barton and possibly Paul Robinson, Dyche has focussed on signing players at Burnley who still have something to prove and who have worked their way up the leagues, and all of them share a common ethos and culture, reflected in a tight wage budget. Binning that to bring in the likes of Llorente or Negredo who I suspect have nothing in common with the rest of the squad is a recipe for a very bad second season.

[minnieclaret]

I wouldn't take Negredos goals tally at Boro into account. Nobody would score many in the defensive setup, that Kawanka put in place.
I still wouldn't have either of them. There has to be somebody out there younger and better suited to our style.

[TVC15]

If we ever become a club which give players who used to be good a nice final pay day then that will be the start of an inevitable demise.

Both of these players fall into that category for me - especially Negredo.

Fortunately I do not think we have a manager or a Board who would contemplate this.

If we do sign an exprerienced player I think it would be for all the right reasons. I do think we could benefit from signing an experienced centre forward - as it could really benefit Andre Gray on the pitch and the training ground. Not sure who though - but a a few years ago someone like Kevin Phillips in his early 30s would have been the type of player who would be great for the team.
Peter Crouch might be an option - and all our strikers could pick something up from him.

Finding a good young or old striker for say £15m to £20m is actually very difficult to think of options. 3 years ago that kind of money would pretty much "guarantee" you goals - these days the likes of Ason Villa have spent that amount on 3 different strikers this season and could not even get in the play offs !!!

[Sidney1st]

I wouldn't take Negredos goals tally at Boro into account. Nobody would score many in the defensive setup, that Kawanka put in place.
I still wouldn't have either of them. There has to be somebody out there younger and better suited to our style.

What about 10 league goals in 2 seasons at Valencia or 9 league goals at City?

[cricketfieldclarets]

If we ever become a club which give players who used to be good a nice final pay day then that will be the start of an inevitable demise.

Both of these players fall into that category for me - especially Negredo.

Fortunately I do not think we have a manager or a Board who would contemplate this.

If we do sign an exprerienced player I think it would be for all the right reasons. I do think we could benefit from signing an experienced centre forward - as it could really benefit Andre Gray on the pitch and the training ground. Not sure who though - but a a few years ago someone like Kevin Phillips in his early 30s would have been the type of player who would be great for the team.
Peter Crouch might be an option - and all our strikers could pick something up from him.

Finding a good young or old striker for say £15m to £20m is actually very difficult to think of options. 3 years ago that kind of money would pretty much "guarantee" you goals - these days the likes of Ason Villa have spent that amount on 3 different strikers this season and could not even get in the play offs !!!

Ian wright, andy cole, joey barton did fairly well on their last paydays.

[evensteadiereddie]

Nope, neither. We recruit from the younger end, those that will buy into the Dyche way and develop as we go.

[KRBFC]

Both would be a massive upgrade on what we currently have, Negredo is quality with the ball. Neither are realistic and tbh I wouldn't want either, I want a younger player and not an ageing foreigner on ridiculous wages. I hope we stick to our wage limit, its served us well. There is no way we would pay £100k a week to Negredo and I can't believe anyone would want us too.

[jlup1980]

Can we start with Ruddy and Stephens on free transfers and move forward from there instead!! We still need to be sensible with our transfer dealings. Any talk of Negredo, Llorente or Defoe isn't the Burnley way. I think they'd all be good signings but they don't strike me as Burnley signings.

[jojomk1]

Forget all three - wages will be way above our budget and they will have offers from clubs of far higher standing than us (Chelsea were linked with Llorente in Jan)

Don't forget also that "free transfers" are anything but - it just means the agents will ask for sky high signing on fees for their clients instead.

Even the likes of Stephens will cost several million up front to get him to sign any contract

[tim_noone]

Negredo has scored 28 league goals in 4 years, including his 9 at City.

No thanks.


I didn't realise Llorente was that old either, at 32 is he really someone we should look at signing?

Ronaldo's 32... just saying.

[Sidney1st]

I know Ronaldo is 32, but as much as I like your suggestion, I don't think he'd fit into Dyche's framework.

[HelloHiGoodbye]

Not a chance in any universe that Burnley'll sign Negredo or Llorente. Season hasn't ended yet and the weird-transfer-giddiness has started.

The most sense on this thread though is CFC - I too reckon we need to improve on Vokes/Barnes rather than Gray. The target man/big lump is pivotal to a Dyche Burnley.

[Blackrod]

Negredo has to be a joke. On stupid wages and not even that great. Really not a Burnley type player. Llorente is good but his wages again will be stupid. I'd prefer us to find value abroad or in the lower leagues.

[Slurpy]

Getting a striker in the Barnes/Vokes mold would more than like mean selling one of the two which I can not see happening. Playing 2 up front means you need 4 strikers in the squad plus a youngster (Agyei) or a winger who can play striker as a backup. What we should be looking for, if Gray stays is someone young who offers the pace that Gray has, that can replace him when injured or when he moves on. This player must have the potential to surpass Gray's ability.

Llorente and Negredo are both the wrong side of 30 and don't fit our wage structure. You also have to question the characters which may not fit in the parameters of Dyche's personality test.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Amazing how they apparently wont fit in with the Dyche personality or mentality.

Two players who I have never heard any bad press of. Who have fit in pretty much everywhere they have been and won trophies with spain during their golden generation.

I doubt two players from outside Real and Barca would have fit in with that all conquering Spain side if they had an attitude problem.

Maybe we should look at younger. But its remarkable when we are dismissing world and European championship winning target men with good goalscoring records because they are 31 and 32 respectively. We could do far, far worse.

Can't see it happening. But both have proved themselves not only over their careers but also this season in the prem.

Both would be an excellent focal point on a 451 or a target man alongside Gray in a 442. And imagine how much Agyei could learn. Over 1000 matches, 400 goals at the very top level and three international trophies between them.

Even Vokes and Barnes could learn from them!

I hope our manager remains more open minded about players regardless of age or nationality.

Llorente has more goals than Barnes and Vokes combined. And Negredo has more goals and assists than either of them.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

It's a no from me

[cricketfieldclarets]

Scored again has llorente.