Westwood

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue May 09, 2017 6:20 pm

Just been speaking to a Villa mate of mine who was gutted Westwood was hounded out of Villa. He says he is a confidence player and when he feels settled he rarely gives the ball away. I've been impressed with him so far.

Needs a song does the lad !

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue May 09, 2017 6:29 pm

I too spoke to a Villa mate last night. He said that many Villa fans were split on Westwood: some thought he was absolutely quality; others chose him (for no apparent reason), to be the terrace 'boo boy' in their times of Premier League dire straits.

We've got an absolute gem: a poor man's Michael Carrick-he simply doesn't give the ball away.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:35 pm

Sounds a bit like Jones. I thought he was class for the Chsmpionship and could see what he brought to the team but the crowd was often split.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:39 pm

I spoke to a birmingham mate last night and hes undecided. Though i like him westwood that is!

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:41 pm

Was excellent at Palace

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Tue May 09, 2017 8:58 pm

Quality player and loads of experience at this level.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:03 pm

Blackrod wrote:Sounds a bit like Jones. I thought he was class for the Chsmpionship and could see what he brought to the team but the crowd was often split.

Players like Jones & Westwood are worth their weight in gold.

jordsclarets · Post by **jordsclarets** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:03 pm

I think he is a great signing by us and will be even better next season just like Brady

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Players like Jones & Westwood are worth their weight in gold.

How much would 70kg of gold cost, CT?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:22 pm

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Westwood has played well against palace and all of a sudden he's a superstar?

He was pretty much non existent previous.

Jones is and always has been garbage. Limited player who playes limited football. Rather have a Defour than a Jones. Mind you hose who big up Jones will no doubt think Defour isn't up to it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:24 pm

Right_winger wrote:Jones is and always has been garbage.

Which now means we can bypass your comments - all I can say is you must have missed our two promotion seasons

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:24 pm

He reminds me of Mr Marney when he first came, he seemed to split opinions.
Personally really impressed with him , thought he was outstanding on Saturday moved the ball quick and sharp don't think he gave the ball away ,excellent signing for a relative snip of a fee.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:26 pm

Right_winger wrote:Jones is and always has been garbage.

But he's not garbage is he? Maybe in relation to Zidane or Pirlo, yes. But as a Championship player he was very good and did very well for us. He was a bit too limited at Premier League level though, that's fair enough.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Which now means we can bypass your comments - all I can say is you must have missed our two promotion seasons

So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

If he was that good then why weren't a host of clubs after him? Like I said limited player who played limited football. If you seen anything different then it's jack a norey.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:37 pm

Right_winger wrote:So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

If he was that good then why weren't a host of clubs after him?

Like Tom Heaton?

Archer · Post by **Archer** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:38 pm

Right_winger wrote:So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

If he was that good then why weren't a host of clubs after him? Like I said limited player who played limited football. If you seen anything different then it's jack a norey.

Gerard?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:38 pm

Right_winger wrote:So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

If he was that good then why weren't a host of clubs after him? Like I said limited player who played limited football. If you seen anything different then it's jack a norey.

No - but my opinion is based on the superb contribution he made in the three years he was at our club, simple as that.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:39 pm

Right_winger wrote:So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

Gerard?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:39 pm

It's looking like about £30 grand a kilo, so Westwood is worth considerably more than his weight in gold!

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Players like Jones & Westwood are worth their weight in gold.

Agreed. They do the 'simple' stuff very well. I put inverted commas round simple because it isn't so simple.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:43 pm

I've always said you can tell whether a person understands and appreciates football by their thoughts towards players like Jones and Westwood.

Those who dismiss them as garbage are invariably clueless. No offence.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:44 pm

Quicknick wrote:Agreed. They do the 'simple' stuff very well. I put inverted commas round simple because it isn't so simple.

They make it look simple

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:44 pm

Right_winger wrote:So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

If he was that good then why weren't a host of clubs after him? Like I said limited player who played limited football. If you seen anything different then it's jack a norey.

********. Good player. Instrumental in winning promotion for us and other teams. Bought by Wednesday for what was it 3m? - a top 6 club in the championship. We have better players now of course but they've all cost a lot more.

Anyone with half a brain can see that your opinion that he is ""garbage" is complete and utter cat arse in light of the career he has had and the fact that a top Championship club snapped him up - that's why we can by pass your extremely flawed judgement- not that anyone is "holier than thou".

And what the hell does that last comment mean? It's not even a proper sentence?

Archer · Post by **Archer** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:44 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Gerard?

Glad that wasn't just me

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue May 09, 2017 10:07 pm

Right_winger wrote:So your opinion is houlier than anyone else's then?

If he was that good then why weren't a host of clubs after him? Like I said limited player who played limited football. If you seen anything different then it's jack a norey.

It's not always the perceived ability of a player that counts, but rather what he gives your team.

Example: Scot Arfield!

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Wed May 10, 2017 3:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:How much would 70kg of gold cost, CT?

Ashley Westwood weighs 80.5kg.
Gold is currently £30.40 a gram.
That's £2,447,200.
He's worth twice his weight in gold, he's that good.

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:01 pm

He reminds me of Mr Marney when he first came, he seemed to split opinions

Marney didn't split opinions when he first came because everyone thought he was awful and he was awful!

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:13 pm

Right_winger wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Westwood has played well against palace and all of a sudden he's a superstar?

He was pretty much non existent previous.

Jones is and always has been garbage. Limited player who playes limited football. Rather have a Defour than a Jones. Mind you hose who big up Jones will no doubt think Defour isn't up to it.

Why do people forget how much better we looked at the start of the 13/14 season compared to the previous season? It was largely down to having a class, composed, ball-retaining central midfielder for the first time in years.

I know it's only your opinion and you're entitled to it. But it's complete horse sh*t.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that Westwood also played (and got man of the match) against West Brom.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:15 pm

BigChaCha wrote:Marney didn't split opinions when he first came because everyone thought he was awful and he was awful!

No he wasn't, he was anything but awful, but some couldn't see past which manager had signed him.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:16 pm

BigChaCha wrote:Marney didn't split opinions when he first came because everyone thought he was awful and he was awful!

I thought his unpopularity was down to him being signed by Laws?

HaHa: beat me to it.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:16 pm

Right_winger wrote:Like I said limited player who played limited football. If you seen anything different then it's jack a norey.

In the Prem maybe, but he was signed with us in the Championship and played most of his games there. He was very good.

If he gets promoted with Wednesday this season, do you know how many times he'll have been promoted from that league?

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:17 pm

I'm of the opinion both Jones and Westwood, were/are both good servants for the club.... the difference between the 2 is that Westwood appears to do the same stuff as Jones, but at a higher tempo and with more purpose.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:17 pm

Right_winger wrote:Rather have a Defour than a Jones.

rather have both. two of the best midfielders we've had in the last 30 years.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:21 pm

No he wasn't, he was anything but awful, but some couldn't see past which manager had signed him.

Until SD arrived, he didn't really pull up any trees, but he was perfect for the way we play now.

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:23 pm

Right_winger wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Westwood has played well against palace and all of a sudden he's a superstar?

He was pretty much non existent previous.

Jones is and always has been garbage. Limited player who playes limited football. Rather have a Defour than a Jones. Mind you hose who big up Jones will no doubt think Defour isn't up to it.

Give your head a wobble......Jones played a Major role in two promotions .

One of the best Midfielders ive seen in a Claret shirt

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:27 pm

Two words- John Deary (now he was worth his weight in gold)

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed May 10, 2017 4:58 pm

I don't think we've lost a league game that Westwood has started.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed May 10, 2017 5:00 pm

You can certainly tell which people sit in the restricted view seats.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed May 10, 2017 5:05 pm

claretdom wrote:You can certainly tell which people sit in the restricted view seats.

or are Myopic

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 10, 2017 5:29 pm

I would join the conversation but I don't know anyone in Brum to ask for their opinion!

However, from what I have seen, he is very capable and works his shift.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed May 10, 2017 5:39 pm

remind me of when cantona called didier deschamps a water carrier as if he was insulting him , when those who really understood football know the value of said water carriers..... LOL