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Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by SmudgetheClaret » Tue May 09, 2017 8:36 pm

Both going down this year and I can't see them ever recovering.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by COBBLE » Wed May 10, 2017 2:03 pm

Despite Corbyn things are not so far gone that we won't sooner or later get, and need, an intelligent functioning Labour party as effective opposition. Then there's Rovers....

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by claretdom » Wed May 10, 2017 2:09 pm

Blackburn have a better ruler in the Venkys than labour have in Corbyn

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by bob-the-scutter » Wed May 10, 2017 5:07 pm

COBBLE wrote:Despite Corbyn things are not so far gone that we won't sooner or later get, and need, an intelligent functioning Labour party as effective opposition. Then there's Rovers....
Not necessarily. I think it`s time the Labour party was disbanded to make way for a new party that really does know how politics works and didn`t base it`s mantra on "We have to kick the Tories out!" without much thought to anything else like actually thinking up genuine policies which will work and they could implement.
People have woken up and realised they are dead in the water.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by hampsteadclaret » Wed May 10, 2017 7:02 pm

bob...re the above, let's try this..

1. I think many in the Labour Party 'really do know how politics works'.

2. a lot of Tory thinking is about..'We have to keep Labour out'.

3. 'thinking up genuine policies which will work'..I'm watching every day and one party is out there campaigning loudly around the streets, with loads of ideas, talking to the public about the way forward, and one woman is parroting 'strong and stable' and saying not too much else, to carefully selected Tory audiences, crossing their fingers and hoping no one fooks up in the next four weeks.

4...'realised they are dead in the water' - oh right..that will explain the unending, nasty personal abuse directed at Jeremy Corbyn in the majority of the press [and on here]... an honest, experienced and principled politician; what is all that about, they aren't worried about him picking up loads of votes are they? - are they trashing him because Labour might get a lot more seats than anyone expects right now?
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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed May 10, 2017 7:10 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:bob...re the above, let's try this..

1. I think many in the Labour Party 'really do know how politics works'.

2. a lot of Tory thinking is about..'We have to keep Labour out'.

3. 'thinking up genuine policies which will work'..I'm watching every day and one party is out there campaigning loudly around the streets, with loads of ideas, talking to the public about the way forward, and one woman is parroting 'strong and stable' and saying not too much else, to carefully selected Tory audiences, crossing their fingers and hoping no one fooks up in the next four weeks.

4...'realised they are dead in the water' - oh right..that will explain the unending, nasty personal abuse directed at Jeremy Corbyn in the majority of the press [and on here]... an honest, experienced and principled politician; what is all that about, they aren't worried about him picking up loads of votes are they? - are they trashing him because Labour might get a lot more seats than anyone expects right now?
Honestly it's like he campaigning to be president of the students union.
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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by HatfieldClaret » Wed May 10, 2017 7:14 pm

There are similarities though,

dwindling support with only the most obstinate staying loyal

appointing leaders (managers) who can't lead

Abbottesque claims of financial stability and match attendances

on the road to nowhere

believing that they will still achieve glory

revelling in past success

sinking to the lower leagues before they sort themselves out and rise again.

If only they had a strong and stable leadership.....

;)

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by If it be your will » Wed May 10, 2017 7:37 pm

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by hampsteadclaret » Wed May 10, 2017 7:40 pm

6...'Honestly it's like he campaigning to be president of the students union..'

Please..what exactly do you mean by that? [* I have been a student]

While I am at it...I have been marvelling in the last fortnight at the 'off the street' campaigning style of Mrs May...not at all like a f****** nodding dog.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed May 10, 2017 7:55 pm

Blackburn never got over the re-drawing of constituency boundaries & The SNP doing the double over them.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Juan Tanamera » Wed May 10, 2017 8:09 pm

And don't forget how much Theresa May and the tories and r*vers have in common: dull, grey and skint of ideas.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by chorleyhere » Wed May 10, 2017 10:49 pm

Strong on the porky pies and unstable with the truth .........Yes its Theresa May !!!! Comments after the local elections "Thank you for voting for me"
As far as I know I don't think she stood for the local election ?
"I'm not going to hold a snap election" .........can she be trusted ? Grammar schools will help everyone?

Don't mention that nasty deficit I can't get rid of it.......Now what rhymes with deficit that will take everyone's minds of it ? Ah yes, Brexit I know I can get everything (I want) we want, just trust me.......... err no! we already know she's stably untrustworthy.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by dsr » Wed May 10, 2017 11:13 pm

Of course grammar schools won't help everyone. But because you can't help everyone, is that a good reason to help no-one? I know it's Labour's policy to close all the best schools, starting with grammar schools and now moving on to fee paying schools; but it hasn't had a great effect on standards so far, has it?

It's a poor do when the only decent school Tony Blair could find for his children was 8 miles away. How many inadequate schools were between his home and his children's schools? Something needs to be done, if there is a 7 mile circle around Downing Street without a single adequate school. Diane Abbot, as we know, had the same problem only worse - she couldn't find a decent school at all.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Rowls » Wed May 10, 2017 11:29 pm

dsr wrote:Diane Abbot, as we know, had the same problem only worse - she couldn't find a decent school at all.
For her children perhaps but let's all remember that Diane Abbott got where she is today because she was fortunate enough to win a place to her local grammar school and then go to Cambridge University.

If she'd had more respect for the wonderful education she received for herself (instead of dismantling the procedures that allowed her to benefit) and hadn't sent her own son to a private school then she may well be a very respected figure in Parliament.

The fact that she didn't and isn't is all you really need to know in respect of education.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by If it be your will » Wed May 10, 2017 11:34 pm

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Damo » Wed May 10, 2017 11:38 pm

It's amazing how upset some people get when anyone pokes fun in the vicinity of the communist, terrorist sympaphiser

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by If it be your will » Wed May 10, 2017 11:41 pm

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Damo » Wed May 10, 2017 11:45 pm

As if I needed you to prove my point :lol:

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by hampsteadclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 10:19 am

Damo..grow up..chucking out the childish insults and smears day after day makes you look..errr..limited..and worried - but Corbyn is such a loser isn't he, gonna get hammered....?..why are you and your lightweight pals spending all this time just being infantile and abusive to the 'no chance' Opposition leader..? Might he cause an upset...is that what you think?

Go on surprise me..give me a few paragraphs where you talk about policy....education..health..tax..debt..transport...re-nationalisation and so on..what do you think about those ?

One question for you Damo [no one else]...did the Austerity policy work?
- please explain your answer fully.
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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 10:24 am

I think the situation in the country is not as bad as Corbyn would have you believe, or the unions, or teachers, or nurses etc etc would have you believe

I also think that situation in the country is not as good as May would have you believe, or rich people, or people who are doing alright thank you very much would have you believe.

Come on Damo, give that one your best shot!

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Thu May 11, 2017 10:26 am

Some very defensive communists on here ;)

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by hampsteadclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 10:45 am

'communists'...thanks for making my point about smears and immature comments for me.. :lol:

If you can't win the policy arguments, then I suppose chucking the abuse around will have to do for a Plan B.

A few right-wing deep thinkers beginning to shytt themselves that Corbyn might just catch on a bit.. :D

Meanwhile...a large POLICY VACUUM and few new ideas.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by claretdom » Thu May 11, 2017 10:47 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:'communists'...thanks for making my point about smears and immature comments for me.. :lol:

If you can't win the policy arguments, then I suppose chucking the abuse around will have to do for a Plan B.

A few right-wing deep thinkers beginning to shytt themselves that Corbyn might just catch on a bit.. :D

Meanwhile...a large POLICY VACUUM and few new ideas.


You can get 26/1 on Corbyn winning in a 2 horse race, fill ya boots then.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by hampsteadclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 11:32 am

23...'You can get 26/1 on Corbyn winning in a 2 horse race, fill ya boots then'.

You seem to think that somewhere on here I suggested that Corbyn might win.
Really...? I didn't.
I didn't even say anything like that did I?
- check it again..any of it.


Since though you've piped up with 26/1 odds, I will ask again..if Corbyn is such a hopeless case why is there such a torrent of abuse at him every day, from all sides, including many vested interests?

Are you worried that he might yet get a bandwagon going, and that along with tactical voting, might upset a few people?

- go on, you are aren't you..?.. :D

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by hampsteadclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 11:37 am

post 6..not quite sure why you like this.. :?

Most of it, 90%+ is a copy and paste of what I said, and the other single sentence is a little unclear...I asked the poster what he said, and then he ran away..

What's to like about that?

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by claretdom » Thu May 11, 2017 11:46 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:23...'You can get 26/1 on Corbyn winning in a 2 horse race, fill ya boots then'.

You seem to think that somewhere on here I suggested that Corbyn might win.
Really...? I didn't.
I didn't even say anything like that did I?
- check it again..any of it.


Since though you've piped up with 26/1 odds, I will ask again..if Corbyn is such a hopeless case why is there such a torrent of abuse at him every day, from all sides, including many vested interests?

Are you worried that he might yet get a bandwagon going, and that along with tactical voting, might upset a few people?

- go on, you are aren't you..?.. :D

Not worried at all hamstead, I don't see a torrent of abuse for him more a case of him being mocked for being daft.

Still while you fly the flag the likes of him and Abbott then ask anyone are they worried, I think the answer will always be a no.

If you are confident that a bandwagon may start rolling and he becomes popular rather than ridiculed 26/1 looks good now so lump on.

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Damo » Thu May 11, 2017 12:29 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:Damo..grow up..chucking out the childish insults and smears day after day makes you look..errr..limited..and worried - but Corbyn is such a loser isn't he, gonna get hammered....?..why are you and your lightweight pals spending all this time just being infantile and abusive to the 'no chance' Opposition leader..? Might he cause an upset...is that what you think?

Go on surprise me..give me a few paragraphs where you talk about policy....education..health..tax..debt..transport...re-nationalisation and so on..what do you think about those ?

One question for you Damo [no one else]...did the Austerity policy work?
- please explain your answer fully.
Sorry Hampstead. I work in the private sector. I don't really have the time to get into multiple paragraphs on here as I'm busy driving the cogs of industry.
You will just have to make do with me poking fun at your dear leader

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Re: Blackburn FC and the Labour Party

Post by Damo » Thu May 11, 2017 12:31 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I think the situation in the country is not as bad as Corbyn would have you believe, or the unions, or teachers, or nurses etc etc would have you believe

I also think that situation in the country is not as good as May would have you believe, or rich people, or people who are doing alright thank you very much would have you believe.

Come on Damo, give that one your best shot!
Why don't you tell us what you really think Lancaster?
Nobody cares about your online persona. Stop pretending to sit on the fence

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