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Correct action ?

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu May 11, 2017 9:38 am

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Discuss. :roll:

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by john'sroseyspecs » Thu May 11, 2017 9:46 am

The slapping or the sacking? Slapping yes! The sacking, unfortunately, also yes. Should have dragged him around the back out of sight and then kicked the crap out of him

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Sidney1st » Thu May 11, 2017 9:52 am

No to the slap and yes to the sack.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by martin_p » Thu May 11, 2017 10:03 am

Technically yes, he should have been sacked, no company is going to condone an employee slapping someone while at work. You've got to feel a bit sorry for him though, the scrotes that were causing the trouble will have got away Scott free.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by SammyBoy » Thu May 11, 2017 10:08 am

It sounds like the kids had been reported several times, if they had been dealt with properly by police maybe this wouldn't have happened. Sadly Domino's had no choice and once he'd slapped the kid he had to go.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu May 11, 2017 10:13 am

Don't agree with him being sacked - although Domino must follow their own rules unfortunately. The scrote definitely deserved a slapping and I would probably have done the same. The parents of the scrotes also need a slapping. The police also need a slapping for not dealing with it. Shame a decent working fella has lost his job and the scumbags have got away with it.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by FactualFrank » Thu May 11, 2017 10:13 am

It's a lose-lose situation. The police can't do much due to his age. The 13 year old would probably learn not to do it again if he did get a slap each time he was caught. Yet, that's not allowed. The end result is that he continues to do it as he gets older, just changing his crimes to something else.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Sidney1st » Thu May 11, 2017 10:19 am

FactualFrank wrote:It's a lose-lose situation. The police can't do much due to his age. The 13 year old would probably learn not to do it again if he did get a slap each time he was caught. Yet, that's not allowed. The end result is that he continues to do it as he gets older, just changing his crimes to something else.
I agree with most of what you've said, but in regards to the slapping each time it would just make the kid more determined to cause more aggravation.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by NottsClaret » Thu May 11, 2017 10:26 am

Is Enzo's still going in Duke Bar? If it is he deserves a slap for going to Domino's instead, it's s***e.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu May 11, 2017 10:27 am

FactualFrank wrote:It's a lose-lose situation. The police can't do much due to his age. The 13 year old would probably learn not to do it again if he did get a slap each time he was caught. Yet, that's not allowed. The end result is that he continues to do it as he gets older, just changing his crimes to something else.
Therein lies the problem - little thugs and scrotes, of that age, can act like they do with impunity knowing
they are, in the main, untouchable.

Consider the scenario if that lady who slipped had suffered a serious injury. What then ?
OK, a slap might still not have prevented it, but may have prevented future incidents. Surely he had
a duty of care to his customers.

Quite honestly, I would have done exactly the same and he would have licked the sauce off the floor, the little **** bag.
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Re: Correct action ?

Post by CnBtruntru » Thu May 11, 2017 12:04 pm

Should have had realised he would get sacked for it and bitch slapped all his mates as well.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu May 11, 2017 12:10 pm

The correct action would have been to report the issue to the police, over and over and over again, and if the police dont act accordingly, take it higher up the chain until it is dealt with. For a grown man to consider it OK to hit a child is not acceptable, and he deserved to be sacked.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Newty » Thu May 11, 2017 12:13 pm

I've found the CCTV footage :lol: https://youtu.be/mm_niiQfeWc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Correct action ?

Post by dsr » Thu May 11, 2017 1:50 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:The correct action would have been to report the issue to the police, over and over and over again, and if the police dont act accordingly, take it higher up the chain until it is dealt with. For a grown man to consider it OK to hit a child is not acceptable, and he deserved to be sacked.
It never would be dealt with. He could take it to the Prime Minister and it still wouldn't be dealt with. The police claim they don't have time, and the courts don't see throwing tomato sauce as a valid use of their time. If a child, even a teenage child, wants to spend his time spraying tomato sauce about, nobody will legally stop him.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 11, 2017 2:01 pm

He should of got the squeezy chilli sauce bottle and unleashed to the face.

The police are pretty useless for everyday crime these days.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu May 11, 2017 2:05 pm

dsr wrote:It never would be dealt with. He could take it to the Prime Minister and it still wouldn't be dealt with. The police claim they don't have time, and the courts don't see throwing tomato sauce as a valid use of their time. If a child, even a teenage child, wants to spend his time spraying tomato sauce about, nobody will legally stop him.
the question was regarding the correct action to take, which I answered. It is a sad reflection on society that you think that nothing would get done about it, I believe that the police would have taken action, but that is my opinion. To have no faith in the police is a poor reflection of yourself and not a valid view of the police.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by ClaretEngineer » Thu May 11, 2017 2:05 pm

I'd be interested to hear the parents take on this. I mean none of us are saints (i certainly wasn't), but a clip round the ear from the guy in the shop would have been preferable to the bollocking off my parents (I was never hit as a child, but i knew i was in the sh1t)

I'd have accepted the slap in good faith and that would have been the end of it.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 11, 2017 3:22 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:the question was regarding the correct action to take, which I answered. It is a sad reflection on society that you think that nothing would get done about it, I believe that the police would have taken action, but that is my opinion. To have no faith in the police is a poor reflection of yourself and not a valid view of the police.
Lancashire police is stretched to the max, they deal in crime numbers for insurance rather than trying to catch the culprits. They don't even come out for burglaries/car break ins in the main.
They don't get any help from the courts when they do catch criminals so you can understand their reluctance to catch them. It's all a waste of time.

When the terrorist attack happened the other week it was reported there was more police on duty in that small area than the entire Lancs force.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 11, 2017 3:24 pm

ClaretEngineer wrote:I'd be interested to hear the parents take on this. I mean none of us are saints (i certainly wasn't), but a clip round the ear from the guy in the shop would have been preferable to the bollocking off my parents (I was never hit as a child, but i knew i was in the sh1t)

I'd have accepted the slap in good faith and that would have been the end of it.
I don't know one single child from my generation that would of told their parents that they were up to no good in a bid to get the pizza boss in trouble.
A little slap would of been the least of your worries.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Man of Kent » Thu May 11, 2017 3:32 pm

A severe thrashing for the brat and an 'employee of the month' award for the manager. As for the police in this country, they are a useless, irrelevant, pointless organisation who have little positive impact on our lives any longer. Not necessarily their doing - the politicians, the career ladder-climbing chief constables and the worthless police and crime commissioners are to blame. The police could be disbanded and life would mostly carry on as it does nowadays for ordinary people.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by ClaretEngineer » Thu May 11, 2017 3:38 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:I don't know one single child from my generation that would of told their parents that they were up to no good in a bid to get the pizza boss in trouble.
A little slap would of been the least of your worries.
What I was getting at was the Parents view of the whole matter, it being in the paper and a man losing his job because some lads foolish behaviour.

Lad might not have intended for the man to lose his job, but he was caught being a dick and was slapped. It should have ended there, lesson learned, respect earned.

Lad was obviously a cry arse and whinged to mother.

If my lad did that, he'd be cleaning the whole takeaway.

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by Newty » Thu May 11, 2017 3:42 pm

Rick_Muller wrote: ...To have no faith in the police is a poor reflection of yourself and not a valid view of the police.
"The court was told that Mr Sadiq, of Abel Street, had rung the police several times over harassment from youngsters throwing sauce and eggs about in the shop. Officers had never been to see him about his complaints"

*FAITH IN POLICE INTENSIFIES*

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Re: Correct action ?

Post by No Ney Never » Thu May 11, 2017 3:53 pm

Gone are the days when the local bobby would have marched him home to shocked parents that their child had been in bother. A clip across the lug 'ole , sent to bed with no supper and made to stay in for a week. Next day taken back to the shop and made to apologise. Today's society is sadly lacking in many areas.

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