Harry is 'appy again

[Woodleyclaret]

How does this chancer do it?
Again he's landed a mega pay day from foreign owners
A media darling who has a very questionable football record and a very good record of spending clubs money and leaving them to sort out the mess when he leaves.

[ElectroClaret]

Deserves it all for playing a big part in relegating Rovers.

Had you forgotten that already?

[DCWat]

I agree with much of what you're saying but at the end of the day, it's not Redknapp who is, or was, signing the cheques. Where Pompey are now isn't Harry's fault, it's the idiots that we're in charge.

[kentonclaret]

Not only has Harry become the highest paid manager in the history of Birmingham City he also is a columnist for the London Standard. Since he claimed at his trial that he knew nothing about new technology (mobile phones,laptop computers) one wonders how he manages to complete and submit his articles.

Obviously, they must all be handwritten and sent in by post.

[Loyalclaret]

Or done on a dictaphone style app?

[Wilsdenclaret]

Cotterill joining him

[Quicknick]

They make an interesting team. I like Arry.

[Devils_Advocate]

How does this chancer do it?

In just under 30 years of football management he was successful in pretty much every job bar one so hardly a chancer. If Dyche continues to have half the career Harry has had he will have done extremely well

Successful at Bournemouth
Successful at West Ham
Successful at Portsmouth
Failed at Southampton
Successful at Portsmouth
Successful at Spurs

[MRG]

In just under 30 years of football management he was successful in pretty much every job bar one so hardly a chancer. If Dyche continues to have half the career Harry has had he will have done extremely well

Successful at Bournemouth
Successful at West Ham
Successful at Portsmouth
Failed at Southampton
Successful at Portsmouth
Successful at Spurs

QPR?

[Devils_Advocate]

Yep after 29 years, and missing out on the England job at 65 years old he should have just packed it in and personally if i was a chairman i wouldnt be looking to employ him now at his age.

But to call him a chancer though is ridiculous as he has an unbelievable CV as a manager and sustained success for almost 3 decades which not many managers ever manage

[Woodleyclaret]

Unbelievable media hype rules ok?

[Flatline]

What he did for Birmingham in three matches is what he's all about,giving players a lift. Whether he's good in the long run is irrelevant,he's sent the Bastids down and I for one will remember that alone.

[Greenmile]

In just under 30 years of football management he was successful in pretty much every job bar one so hardly a chancer. If Dyche continues to have half the career Harry has had he will have done extremely well

Successful at Bournemouth
Successful at West Ham
Successful at Portsmouth
Failed at Southampton
Successful at Portsmouth
Successful at Spurs

Less so if you measure success by the state he leaves a club in when he goes.

[J50]

Not only has Harry become the highest paid manager in the history of Birmingham City he also is a columnist for the London Standard. Since he claimed at his trial that he knew nothing about new technology (mobile phones,laptop computers) one wonders how he manages to complete and submit his articles.

Obviously, they must all be handwritten and sent in by post.

And has a strange ability to run a Twitter marketing account in his name You wouldn't believe how much he gets paid for (not) doing that

[Devils_Advocate]

Less so if you measure success by the state he leaves a club in when he goes.

He left all those clubs in better positions than when he took over but he cant help it if the manages who follow him screw it up. That would be like blaming Fergie for what Moyes and Van Gal did or blaming Coyle for Laws being an absolute disaster

[bfcjg]

Questionable Chinese owners. I bet Rosy is busy again.

[Greenmile]

He left all those clubs in better positions than when he took over but he cant help it if the manages who follow him screw it up. That would be like blaming Fergie for what Moyes and Van Gal did or blaming Coyle for Laws being an absolute disaster

West Ham and Portsmouth, at least, were totally screwed financially by the time he left. Southampton too, I think.

Very good at spending others' money and taking all the credit for himself, is our 'Arry.

[Sidney1st]

Unbelievable CV?

Just the one trophy isn't it, at Portsmouth?
Hardly an unbelievable career and he will always be tarnished by the carnage he left behind him.
The media won't mention it, he's their golden boy after all, but that's some real guff to say he's had an unbelievable career.

[Devils_Advocate]

Some facts about his spending

Bournemouth - in 14 years signed only 19 players at cost of £1.12m and recouped £1.77m in transfers out in same period

West Ham - Spent £52m Brought in £77m - Signed ark Rieper, John Hartson, Eyal Berkovic, Stan Laziridis, Steve Lomas, David Unsworth, Paulo Di Canio, Marc Vivien-Foe, Jermaine Defoe and brought through the youth set up ike Marsh, Joe Cole, Frank Lampard, Michael Carrick, and Rio Ferdinand
League positions went 14th, 10th, 14th, 8th & 5th and the season after even a **** manager like Roeder got a top half finish with what Harry left behind

Portsmouth - Spent £7.6m brought in £5.4m winning the Championship and establishing them as a Premier league team

Southampton - Failed miserably

Portsmouth - Spent £68m brought in £29m but when Mandric pulled the plug after Harry left Harry's signings brought in a further £70m making over £30 profit in 3 years from when Harry came back to the year after he left. Harry was spending money but spending it well to keep Portsnouth a comfortable Premier League team but the club was grossly mis managed from top to bottom after he left resulting in their free fall but it is a false myth to lay the blame at Harrys door

Spurs - finished 11th the season before Harry took over. They then finished 8th, 4th, 5th & 4th and made the QF of the Champions league

In 26 years of football management Harry spent £225m and brought in £230m and that doesnt include the players who moved on at a profit from his clubs after he left

Think what you like about Harry as a person but as a manager he is one of the most successful british managers of the past 30 years and would like to see who you think are good managers if you think Harry is just a chancer

[Sidney1st]

How much did he make from all the back handers then?
Or do you need to ask his dog?

He's no better or worse then the likes of Big Sam, neither has been spectacular.

[Devils_Advocate]

Im not disputing he may not be a nice person and maybe dodgy as hell but that doesnt mean he wasnt a good manager.

We all regard what Dyche has achieved so far as a manager very highly but by your logic he has won nowt and so far his achievements have nowhere near matched either Harry or Sam so he is nothing more than average

If Harry is nothing special what British managers do you rate as better as i bet there's only a handful of truly greats like Clough, Robson, Graham, Fergie

[Greenmile]

Pulis, Allardyce, Howe, Hughes, Rodgers, even Hodgson, Moyes and Pardew (although the latter three have all blotted their copybook somewhat) and of course, Sean Dyche are all better managers than Redknapp and that's just the recently active ones.

And your financial stats above take no account of wages or the changing market (or QPR, of course), plus I'm sure Redknapp had very little to do with the West Ham youth team which brought through those great talents in the late 90s. Didn't stop him taking credit for it, though, obviously

[Devils_Advocate]

Not sure what those managers have achieved to be regarded better than Harry who has won the FA Cup and qualified for the Champions as well as also winning the League 1 title, the Championship title, the Football league trophy, the inter toto cup, and was named Premier league manager of the year in 2010

Thats me done as were not gonna agree but I cant help feeling it is your dislike for him as a person that is swaying your opinion of him as a manager in the face of all the facts that say otherwise

[Man of Kent]

I agree with much of what you're saying but at the end of the day, it's not Redknapp who is, or was, signing the cheques. Where Pompey are now isn't Harry's fault, it's the idiots that we're in charge.

One of the idiots in charge was Vladimir Antonov, a banker (literally). Shortly after screwing Portsmouth, he was due to be extradited from the UK to Lithuania after being accused of extracting hundreds of millions of dollars from a bank in his country and putting it in his own Swiss bank account. 'Appy 'Arry is an angel in comparison. You can read his story here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sports ... ition.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Greenmile]

Not sure what those managers have achieved to be regarded better than Harry who has won the FA Cup and qualified for the Champions as well as also winning the League 1 title, the Championship title, the Football league trophy, the inter toto cup, and was named Premier league manager of the year in 2010

You can't really take one side of that argument with Sidney and the other side with me, to make the same point.

Happy to agree to disagree, though.