Tories are red not blue!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:17 am

When they put their jolly nice outfit on to go kill those foxes, which just happen to occupy a small space on their thousands of acres.

“This is the chance we have been waiting for,” the Conservative peer said.

“We have six weeks to show, yet again, what we are made of, and our undying commitment to our way of life.

“We have six weeks to win back all that has been taken from us. Masters, if ever there was a time to give a lead, this is it.

TORIES KILL FOXES FOR SPORT

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:18 am

How much does it interfere with your way of life if they do or don't kill foxes?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:22 am

Sidney1st wrote:How much does it interfere with your way of life if they do or don't kill foxes?

About as much as it does if they blow up hospitals in Aleppo, doesn't mean i'm okay with it.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:23 am

More political nonsense. Yawn....

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:26 am

IAmAClaret wrote: More political nonsense. Yawn....

Would you like me to call the police and report whoever is pointing the gun to your head forcing you to open threads on the internet.

Post something intelligent as a 'yes'.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:30 am

Look at these little shits. Vote Tory to wipe that smile of their ugly little faces.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:33 am

If you want chickens, rabbits and lambs to suffer slow, vioelnt and painful deaths, vote for foxes. If you don't care about animal welfare but you hate rich people in red jackets, vote Labour.

The only fox hunt I ever saw didn't have a red jacket in sight, and barely a horse either. They were on quad bikes, up near Cartmel. Do you hate them as well? Because there's a chance some of them (not having red jackets) might have voted Labour.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:34 am

11 million+ Tories at the last election.
Those horses must be very busy ferrying that number around the countryside.

I doubt even that all the people who regularly got/get involved (less than 50,000?) are all Tories.

TORIES KILL FOXES FOR SPORT is on a par with LABOUR ARE DOLE SCROUNGERS.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:36 am

dsr wrote:If you want chickens, rabbits and lambs to suffer slow, vioelnt and painful deaths, vote for foxes. If you don't care about animal welfare but you hate rich people in red jackets, vote Labour.

The only fox hunt I ever saw didn't have a red jacket in sight, and barely a horse either. They were on quad bikes, up near Cartmel. Do you hate them as well? Because there's a chance some of them (not having red jackets) might have voted Labour.

News flash. Foxes naturally eat chickens, rabbits and lambs for food. It's called a like in the food chain. Dogs don't eat foxes for food unless we force them to.

And i question the wisdom of describing what foxes do to thos animals as "slow, violent and painful deaths" as an attempt to gain support for your side when they literally do to them what hunting dogs do to foxes, only naturally.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:37 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:About as much as it does if they blow up hospitals in Aleppo, doesn't mean i'm okay with it.

I'd like to nominate this for the most stupid comparison of the year.

I think it's a real winner.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:40 am

Sidney1st wrote:I'd like to nominate this for the most stupid comparison of the year.

I think it's a real winner.

I had a little bet with myself that you'd make the error of thinking i was comparing the relative acts and their victims and not the relative effect on my life. I won.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:41 am

Ah you're in one of those moods today are you?
I'm glad I'm off out in a bit then.

Have fun trolling.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:42 am

Sidney1st wrote:Ah you're in one of those moods today are you?
I'm glad I'm off out in a bit then.

Have fun trolling.

Have fun with your faux outrage.

Another user who likes to express mockrage will be along before long to spam the message board again to drum up fury at me based on the same error you made. Though i think he cares less about the victims of hospital bombings in Aleppo than you or I because, well, we both know why he cares less.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:43 am

What is it with jocks and the hate for tories ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:46 am

claretdom wrote:What is it with jocks and the hate for tories ?

What is it about the Tories and their hate for Jocks?

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:49 am

Foxes aren't indigenous to the UK, so what do other countries do to control them? I presume that foxes live in France and Germany, what do they do to solve this clearly difficult problem?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:49 am

I haven't heard any party say they hate the jocks

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:49 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Have fun with your faux outrage.

Another user who likes to express mockrage will be along before long to spam the message board again to drum up fury at me based on the same error you made. Though i think he cares less about the victims of hospital bombings in Aleppo than you or I because, well, we both know why he cares less.

I'm not faux outraging about anything.

I merely asked how much fox hunting actually affects those who complain about it the most.
It was a simple question with no hidden meaning, but that may mean your paranoia is playing up again.

Anyway, this thread isn't going to be turned into something all about you, I know how desperate you are for the attention.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:50 am

if you keep chickens whether you farm or not, and you are too useless to erect a fence that keeps them safe, then you shouldnt keep chickens.

anyone who hunts , or advocates killing foxes with the lame and feeble excuse that poultry need protecting is deluded.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:52 am

You're hardly impartial in this debate, Wile E Coyote.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:52 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Have fun with your faux outrage.

Oh the irony

mealdeal · Post by **mealdeal** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:52 am

Sidney1st wrote:Ah you're in one of those moods today are you?
I'm glad I'm off out in a bit then.

Off out? What if there is a post on this messageboard, how will you reply?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:52 am

Sidney1st wrote:I'm not faux outraging about anything.

I merely asked how much fox hunting actually affects those who complain about it the most.
It was a simple question with no hidden meaning, but that may mean your paranoia is playing up again.

Anyway, this thread isn't going to be turned into something all about you, I know how desperate you are for the attention.

And i gave a perfectly simple answer and that should have been the end of it. Or is it my paranoia that makes me think you responded to my answer negatively?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:54 am

Damo wrote:Oh the irony

Feel free to explain how this is ironic with examples to support your opinion.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:57 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Would you like me to call the police and report whoever is pointing the gun to your head forcing you to open threads on the internet.

Post something intelligent as a 'yes'.

I'm sorry AtheistDingle.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:57 am

They're violent too.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:57 am

IAmAClaret wrote:I'm sorry AtheistDingle.

Well, if you change your mind let me know.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue May 30, 2017 11:58 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:if you keep chickens whether you farm or not, and you are too useless to erect a fence that keeps them safe, then you shouldnt keep chickens.

You're not in favour of free range chickens, then? The big industrial chicken farms (10,000 chickens in a barn with 1 door) can do it; smaller chicken farmers with genuine free range chickens can't.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:01 pm

dushanbe wrote:Foxes aren't indigenous to the UK, so what do other countries do to control them? I presume that foxes live in France and Germany, what do they do to solve this clearly difficult problem?

Gassing is the most efficient way. When the vixen is nursing, she's fairly easy to track to her lair, and you can usually pick a time when she's at home to gas her. And if you don't get her, you get the cubs.

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:02 pm

dsr wrote:You're not in favour of free range chickens, then? The big industrial chicken farms (10,000 chickens in a barn with 1 door) can do it; smaller chicken farmers with genuine free range chickens can't.

Lets hunt foxes on horseback then because its so efficient.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:04 pm

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:04 pm

mealdeal wrote:Off out? What if there is a post on this messageboard, how will you reply?

I won't, I'm driving over to Somerset, so I'll be out for a while and I'm not allowed to use my phone and drive anymore.

CJW · Post by **CJW** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:14 pm

dushanbe wrote:Foxes aren't indigenous to the UK,

Yes, they are.
Did you mean "endemic"?

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:15 pm

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:31 pm

The 'politics of envy' brigade, usual suspects, are out again. Ignore them and leave them to their rantings.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:44 pm

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:47 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, if you change your mind let me know.

I will ClaretCharlie

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:48 pm

Vino blanco wrote:The 'politics of envy' brigade, usual suspects, are out again. Ignore them and leave them to their rantings.

nah.....just the large majority of decent folk who think that peple who get the horn watching animals being ripped up are a bit sick in the mind....you know...like that cockfighting, bear baiting and dog fighting stuff that went out in all decent countries a long time ago.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:49 pm

What else can we hunt for sport though? Why foxes specifically? What about badgers? Or geese? Or like I dunno, wild owls.

Just ******* gatling gun their cocks off.

CJW · Post by **CJW** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:57 pm

[quote="ClaretAndJew"]What else can we hunt for sport though? Why foxes specifically? What about badgers? Or geese? Or like I dunno, wild owls.
quote]

You already can hunt geese for sport.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:58 pm

Hunting, shooting, fishing, it's just another way of killing animals. I eat animals. I don't care that they die.

Fox hunting is nothing life cock fighting etc., because it is deliberately not made a fight. Fights result in drawn out death and injuries. Hunting and shooting both have rules to try and ensure that the dead animal doesn't suffer unduly (fishing, less so).

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:59 pm

At the moment I want the police protecting my children friends and relations not some chicken killers.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:59 pm

CJW wrote:

Not with hounds, though. It's not the hunt that upsets Ian, it's the hounds and the people in red coats.

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Tue May 30, 2017 12:59 pm

'Politics of envy' brigade? Support for the ban is something like 75% of the population. It's just obviously horrible and offputting, one of the easiest, most natural political stances you can take.

RogerBest · Post by **RogerBest** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Have fun with your faux outrage..

Perhaps you mean "FOX outrage"

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:13 am

The Tory elite bask in the blood of foxes and take pleasure from the cruel death they have inflicted upon a defenceless animal.

Anti Lobby:
"Given that 84 per cent of the public – and 72 per cent of Conservative voters - want fox hunting to remain illegal, this smacks of a small minority with a cruel hobby wielding an inappropriately large influence over the people in charge. Are we really going to turn the clock back to a time when killing animals for fun was legal?"

Lord Tory Mancroft:
Tory Lord Mancroft, chairman of the Council of Hunting Associations, described the 8 June vote as “the chance we have been waiting for” to overturn the ban, according to an email seen by the Daily Mirror.

He said a sizeable majority for Theresa May could usher in a new era for fox hunting and a vote on the issue could be scheduled for as early as this year. “A majority of 50 or more would give us a real opportunity for repeal of the Hunting Act,” he said.

Fox hunting opposition hits all-time high, latest poll finds
“We have repeatedly made clear that we need a Government that has both a manifesto commitment to repeal the HA [Hunting Act], and a big enough majority to get repeal through the Commons and then the Lords. “It now looks, unexpectedly, as if there is a very real chance we could get such a Government. “While nothing in politics is certain, this is by far the best opportunity we have had since the ban, and is probably the best we are likely to get in the foreseeable future.”

Take the opportunity to put the so called elite back in their box, with a tick in yours on June 8th

Tories kill foxes for sport

ThinLizzy · Post by **ThinLizzy** » Wed May 31, 2017 5:20 am

It shows how ill educated you snowflakes are. There's a substantial number of anti-hunting Tory MP's and 'Conservatives Against Fox Hunting' flies the flag for our furry friends. I love animals far more than people (just reading the communist crap spouted on here is good reason to hate people) but would never, EVER vote Labour. Fox hunting will be debated and I hope for an extension on the ban but I'm not willing to let a party in who hate Britain. How quickly you forget what happened the last time the 'Benefits Party' were in power!
You'll all be drowning your sorrows with your White Lightning or whatever it is you lower classes drink off your benefits on June 9th. I'll have a glass of champagne. Cheers!

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:49 am

ThinLizzy wrote:It shows how ill educated you snowflakes are. There's a substantial number of anti-hunting Tory MP's and 'Conservatives Against Fox Hunting' flies the flag for our furry friends. I love animals far more than people (just reading the communist crap spouted on here is good reason to hate people) but would never, EVER vote Labour. Fox hunting will be debated and I hope for an extension on the ban but I'm not willing to let a party in who hate Britain. How quickly you forget what happened the last time the 'Benefits Party' were in power!
You'll all be drowning your sorrows with your White Lightning or whatever it is you lower classes drink off your benefits on June 9th. I'll have a glass of champagne. Cheers!

Anyone want to take a look at what self-loathing looks like in print?

Look no further.

wickdkewlclaret · Post by **wickdkewlclaret** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:50 am

Just because people side with Tories shouldn't mean that they naturally agree with fox hunting. You don't have to agree with every policy, have a back bone people!

It is clearly wrong as they show no direct hostility or threat to humans.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed May 31, 2017 8:08 am

wickdkewlclaret wrote:It is clearly wrong as they show no direct hostility or threat to humans.

think you'll find the tories do.