More trouble in london

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:38 am

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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:09 am

was always going to happen, no doubt uneducated people will blame Tommy Robinson

Seriously grim in the UK now and I certainly have no clue how to fix it

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 am

Sadly it was only a matter of time.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:02 am

Oh ****.

Get ready for some very serious blowback now... You won't see a candle lit vigil and talks of love, tolerance and peace whilst singing "don't look back in anger" after this one, could end violent.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:18 am

According to Twitter, Tommy Robinson was driving the van.

steve_f · Post by **steve_f** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:00 am

At 12.15 am a vehicle has mounted the pavement mowing down muslim worshipers outside a mosque in Islington, 8 injured 1 dead. This is becoming too regular an occurrence now.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:08 am

Outside Finsbury Park Mosque, assailant apparently shouting "Where are all the Muslims? I wanna kill all Muslims".

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arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:13 am

Sadly inevitable this would happen.

A perceived lack of action by the authorities leads to some dick head taking matters in his own hands.

We are heading towards a civil war (of sorts).

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:18 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:Sadly inevitable this would happen.

A perceived lack of action by the authorities leads to some dick head taking matters in his own hands.

We are heading towards a civil war (of sorts).

What action would you like to see? The Met are at breaking point.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:20 am

Vegas Claret wrote:was always going to happen, no doubt uneducated people will blame Tommy Robinson

Seriously grim in the UK now and I certainly have no clue how to fix it

Why is it seriously grim the Uk?

I'd rather have our issues that the lawless gun violence that happens in every town and city in the USA on a daily basis.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:22 am

Attacking people at church, during one of their most religious times, that'll show the terrorists.

Someone quickly point out about Finsbury park's mosque and its history.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:28 am

ISIS will be wanking themselves into a coma. This is the kind of reaction they absolutely 100% want to happen. Another senseless loss of life that's been cultivated by the far right.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:35 am

Dom wrote:ISIS will be wanking themselves into a coma. This is the kind of reaction they absolutely 100% want to happen. Another senseless loss of life that's been cultivated by the far right.

Absolutely, not that they needed much excuse in the first place, mind.

The end of Ramadan this week can't come soon enough.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:36 am

This is the exact thing ISIS and the like have been praying would happen in order to fast track more radicalisation.

It's easy to say "Don't let terrorism run your life" etc, but I have no intention of taking my family to London in the near future. Things will only continue to escalate, particularly if we now have these vigilante style 'revenge' terror attacks beginning to emerge. Terrible.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:45 am

TsarBomba wrote:Absolutely, not that they needed much excuse in the first place, mind.

The end of Ramadan this week can't come soon enough.

They don't need an excuse but seeing far right Islamophobic terrorists targeting moderate muslims could potentially turn impressionable muslims to the extremist cause.

Sad that more people have died for absolutely nothing.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:49 am

claretandy wrote:According to Twitter, Tommy Robinson was driving the van.

The man arrested is 48 years old. Tommy Robinson is 34.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:52 am

Another tragic event in a long line of tragic events occurring at the moment.

Have the middle-aged white male community come out and condemned this attack yet?

I suppose it was only a matter of time before some brain dead moron gave ISIS exactly what they want. He was probably radicalised by the hate speech of the Mail, the Sun, Hopkins, Farage, Robinson etc.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:54 am

I'm a young white male and I condemn this attack.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:56 am

JohnMcGreal wrote:Another tragic event in a long line of tragic events occurring at the moment.

Have the middle-aged white male community come out and condemned this attack yet?

I suppose it was only a matter of time before some brain dead moron gave ISIS exactly what they want. He was probably radicalised by the hate speech of the Mail, the Sun, Hopkins, Farage, Robinson etc.

Good point , I'm sick of reading on Facebook, Twitter and on this site the bile and hatred directed towards Muslims.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:58 am

Here we go all the libtards wanking over something to blame the "far right" and Middle Aged white straight male ( the most persicuted group )

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:03 am

"persecuted"

You thicko.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:03 am

JohnMcGreal wrote:Another tragic event in a long line of tragic events occurring at the moment.

Have the middle-aged white male community come out and condemned this attack yet?

I suppose it was only a matter of time before some brain dead moron gave ISIS exactly what they want. He was probably radicalised by the hate speech of the Mail, the Sun, Hopkins, Farage, Robinson etc.

See my post, I think I fit your demographic loosely and I 100% condemn it. I also think if you pop your telly or radio on you will find many more like me!

As for The Met being at breaking point, that kind of makes my point. The authorities perceived to be doing nothing (for whatever the reason, be it will or lack of resource) will lead to this kind of stupid attempt to deal with it individually.

The authorities need to be given the mandate and resource to deal with this in whichever way they deem fit and soon.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:05 am

Right_winger wrote:Here we go all the libtards wanking over something to blame the "far right" and Middle Aged white straight male ( the most persicuted group )

This will be used as ammunition against every Islamic attack we face for the next decade as a means to misdirect and obscure its seriousness. They (liberals) have been waiting for something like this to happen for ages and will now finally have the trump card they desperately wanted.

I'm sad for those that lost their lives, and the pain of their families. Nothing good what so ever will come out of this attack for anyone.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:06 am

Where's all the candles and hugs and love?

Are the lefties all hypocrites surely not?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:07 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:This will be used as ammunition against every Islamic attack we face for the next decade as a means to misdirect and obscure its seriousness. They (liberals) have been waiting for something like this to happen for ages and will now finally have the trump card they desperately wanted.

I'm sad for those that lost their lives, and the pain of their families. Nothing good what so ever will come out of this attack for anyone.

Agreed.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:10 am

Right_winger wrote:Here we go all the libtards wanking over something to blame the "far right" and Middle Aged white straight male ( the most persicuted group )

Does it matter which group is 'more' persecuted? I also think the 'other' group would have a thing or two to say about who is more persecuted when you see what happens daily away from Europe.

You should take a long hard look at yourself. People dying is people dying, and yes, this evidently was a far right white male and I do blame him for running over at least ten people and killing at least one of them. Why would I not blame him?

Holmeclaret · Post by **Holmeclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:10 am

No-one can be blamed for this attack other than the sick individual that carried it out. No one can blame Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins and definitely not middle aged white men generally.
As a person who travels into central London for work daily on the Met line and who also attends the Ranadaan night prayers I'm definitely a potential victim of terrorism. I'm damned if I'm going to stop though and that's got more to do with the fact that I'm British.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:12 am

I needed a laugh this morning

"white straight males are the most persecuted" is all most of us need!

Imagine being part of the most privileged group of people on the planet and thinking that?

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:12 am

I think it's quite telling about the law abiding nature of the Muslim Community around Finsbury Mosque that this animal was accosted by the witnesses to his senseless barbarity and handed to the Police alive.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:13 am

I hope my fellow SJWs will join me in recognising that it is not all you white middle aged men that we blame for this ideology that you follow, just the radical ones twisting and corrupting a peaceful ideology for their own ends.
I know some nice moderate Nazis down the road, they give me sausage on special occasions. The biggest concern now of course is not the killings, it's the inevitable backlash against moderate Nazis.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:16 am

horrible news.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:16 am

Right_winger wrote:Where's all the candles and hugs and love?

Are the lefties all hypocrites surely not?

You are a disgrace

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:16 am

tommy robinson is only 34?!

******* hell, tough paper round. always looks like he's on the verge of a heart attack.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:17 am

Senseless. Lock the idiot up and throw away the key.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:20 am

quoonbeatz wrote:tommy robinson is only 34?!

******* hell, tough paper round. always looks like he's on the verge of a heart attack.

According to Wiki.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:22 am

joey13 wrote:You are a disgrace

Yeah and your just a typical leftie *******. Haven't you got some demonstrations to go to against the white "British" male?

You can use any excuse you like... anti gay, females rights, anti Islam, racism, hell even being a successful person because you don't share it around.

Hypocrites the left is full of them.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:23 am

Good morning Tommy Robinson, how are you today?

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:23 am

Blackrod wrote:Senseless. Lock the idiot up and throw away the key.

Nope, I'd be more inclined to allow someone to drive a van over him.

Why should we keep this absolute oxygen thief at a cost to the state?

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:23 am

i reckon he's been on and changed it himself.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:25 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I'm sad for those that lost their lives, and the pain of their families. Nothing good what so ever will come out of this attack for anyone.

I'd prefer to be more positive and hope that in the face of a small group of idiots trying to drive a wedge between people, it will have the opposite effect and will actually being people closer together.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:27 am

I think I'll go all in

All white van drivers should be in camps, or at the very least have to wear some sort of identification device (like a yellow star) so we all know where they are at all times.

Its the only way to be sure.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:29 am

Yeah, most fascists are also very vain as well

I bet he wears a wig.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:29 am

TsarBomba wrote:What action would you like to see? The Met are at breaking point.

It's a well used phrase but I doubt very much the Met are anywhere near at 'Breaking Point'. They will have had to shift a few arses out onto the streets but I'm sure there are still a few hundred more that can be shifted if push came to shove.

It's another organisation that seems to have 'reps' for a variety of things that take them out of uniform.

And it's still a job that has shift patterns and regulated hours so those involved will be coining in the overtime for extra shifts and breaking point is more likely to be linked to a budgetary term.

The security services, those involved in the war on terror are the ones who will be stretched.

Not a critisism of your post by the way, just my honest opinion.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:37 am

JohnMac wrote:It's a well used phrase but I doubt very much the Met are anywhere near at 'Breaking Point'. They will have had to shift a few arses out onto the streets but I'm sure there are still a few hundred more that can be shifted if push came to shove.

And it's still a job that has shift patterns and regulated hours so those involved will be coining in the overtime for extra shifts and breaking point is more likely to be linked to a budgetary term.

The security services, those involved in the war on terror are the ones who will be stretched.

And the police are not involved in the war on terror?

Having to 'defend' the entirety of greater London with 1000 fewer armed officers, busing in officers from other counties during a major incident because there isn't enough man power.

But yeah it's the unionized coffee breaks, and coining in the overtime 'Hey lads, another attack, cha-ching £££!

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:39 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:I think I'll go all in

All white van drivers should be in camps, or at the very least have to wear some sort of identification device (like a yellow star) so we all know where they are at all times.

Its the only way to be sure.

Good plan Herr Lancs.

The yellow star identification emblem was created in early Islam to identify the Dhimmis (Jews and other non Muslims) under Islamic rule and lasted for centuries until it was adopted by your Nazis for the same purpose.

A document in Yemen from the 12th century describes it thus :

"Two yellow badges [are to be displayed], one on the headgear and one on the neck. Furthermore, each Jew must hang round his neck a piece of lead with the word Dhimmi on it. He also has to wear a belt round his waist. The women have to wear one red and one black shoe and have a small bell on their necks or shoes"

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:45 am

'All white van drivers should be in camps...'
Not sure why you've made that comment.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:48 am

Right_winger wrote:Here we go all the libtards wanking over something to blame the "far right" and Middle Aged white straight male ( the most persicuted group )

You really do talk utter shite on a regular basis.

The far right are responsible for this attack - they blame all Muslims for the actions of a few, it was only a matter of time before some deranged moron who feels he is under "threat" takes action against the people who he is being told want to kill him and his family.

Some muslims will want to kill him and his family, but they are few and far between, might be a few more who have now decided they also want to kill him because of his actions, it won't justify or excuse those who do continue to kill in the name of "Islam" and nobody with a brain will say this attack on muslims is fair game for their attacks going forward.

It's just more loss of life that is pointless, serves no purpose other to divide.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:49 am

Blackrod wrote:'All white van drivers should be in camps...'
Not sure why you've made that comment.

It's a satirical comparison to the suggestion that any person of interest (to the security service) should be detained indefinitely without due process.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:50 am

Blackrod wrote:'All white van drivers should be in camps...'
Not sure why you've made that comment.

He was being facetious. Many right wing people were calling for internment of muslims.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:54 am

Blackrod wrote:'All white van drivers should be in camps...'
Not sure why you've made that comment.

It is possible that he may be suggesting that only radical Nazis are opposed to Islamic terror and that anyone who has voiced any opposition to the doctrine of terror running through the veins of mainstream Islam have inferred that all Muslims should be exterminated or put in camps.