AFC Bournemouth v Sergio Aguero

[ClaretTony]

Apparently, Bournemouth issued a statement accusing Sergio Aguero of assaulting a steward, presumably based on the words of the steward.

They have since been forced into issuing a second statement which reads:

AFC Bournemouth are aware of an alleged incident which occurred following Manchester City’s second goal at Vitality Stadium on Saturday.

The club have been advised that due to a misunderstanding, an earlier statement alleging assault has been withdrawn and no assault took place.

AFC Bournemouth recognises that stewards and police were carrying out their duties in preventing encroachment onto the pitch, with the safety of players and supporters in mind.

The club will make no further comment on the matter.

[Bordeauxclaret]

What was the first statement?

[Billyhamilton1982]

There was a Man City supporter who was on Radio 5 this evening claiming he had managed to capture the whole episode on his mobile and the viewing showed that the actual steward man handled Aguero and he'd already contact the powers at be at city and emailed them the said evidence

[ClaretTony]

What was the first statement?

I haven't seen the actual statement but it was apparently an accusation that Sergio Aguero had assaulted a steward.

Now they are saying it is just a misunderstanding - and without any sort of apology.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I've seen the footage. Agureo looks to be trying to defend a fan being pinned to the floor by a couple of stewards.
Aguero didn't look to do anything wrong.

[ClaretTony]

I've seen the footage. Agureo looks to be trying to defend a fan being pinned to the floor by a couple of stewards.
Aguero didn't look to do anything wrong.

I'm sure he didn't but some of those stewards certainly did.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I'm sure he didn't but some of those stewards certainly did.

Unless something happened that wasn't caught on camera, which doesn't seem likely, they appear to be lying through their teeth.
Very poor from them and Bournemouth.

[KRBFC]

Why did the stewards get involved? They only made the situation worse. Let the fans celebrate with the players, its hardly crime of the century and who was at risk?

[Tall Paul]

Bournemouth don't have anything to apologise for.

The initial statement was made by the steward to the police.

[Dyched]

From the footage after city scored Aguero did absolutely nothing wrong.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Why did the stewards get involved? They only made the situation worse. Let the fans celebrate with the players, its hardly crime of the century and who was at risk?

I think the rules are probably based around the old health and safety. But every City fan in that stand would loved to have been the ones at the front with Sterling then.
It's a ridiculous rule.

[nil_desperandum]

I think the rules are probably based around the old health and safety. But every City fan in that stand would loved to have been the ones at the front with Sterling then.
It's a ridiculous rule.

I know I'll be in a minority here, but I believe the rule is correct. Any deliberate action by players that causes the crowd to surge forward or encroach on the pitch should be firmly discouraged IMO.
A crowd surge is potentially dangerous, especially if children are at the front, and we definitely don't want spectators spilling onto the pitch.
There's been much criticism of stewards on this board in recent weeks, (certainly justified at Ewood on Wednesday), but they are damned when they get involved, and damned when they don't. Today they got trapped between City fans and City players.
It is also important to remember that Sterling didn't get a red card today for running at the crowd. He got a yellow. (A 2nd yellow thus resulting in his dismissal).
A lot of people are saying it was never a red card offence - they're right, (nor did he get one).

[Dyched]

It wasn't a bookable offence either. Players run at the crowd all the time. Charlie Daniels did the same as Sterling. Difference is the crowd didn't react the same.

[nil_desperandum]

It wasn't a bookable offence either. Players run at the crowd all the time. Charlie Daniels did the same as Sterling. Difference is the crowd didn't react the same.

It's definitely a bookable offence according to the rules, the question is whether you agree with the rule. I think you've given the reason why it is an offence. In Daniels case the crowd didn't react, so no real problem or safety issue, but it should still be discouraged because it could lead to a crowd surge or pitch invasion. In Sterling's case there was a massive reaction from the crowd.
If players are not discouraged from doing this, then there will inevitably be a n incident sooner or later.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I know I'll be in a minority here, but I believe the rule is correct. Any deliberate action by players that causes the crowd to surge forward or encroach on the pitch should be firmly discouraged IMO.
A crowd surge is potentially dangerous, especially if children are at the front, and we definitely don't want spectators spilling onto the pitch.
There's been much criticism of stewards on this board in recent weeks, (certainly justified at Ewood on Wednesday), but they are damned when they get involved, and damned when they don't. Today they got trapped between City fans and City players.
It is also important to remember that Sterling didn't get a red card today for running at the crowd. He got a yellow. (A 2nd yellow thus resulting in his dismissal).
A lot of people are saying it was never a red card offence - they're right, (nor did he get one).

Will you not see a surge every time a 96th minute winning goal is scored anyway?
I'd hope so.

[KRBFC]

I know I'll be in a minority here, but I believe the rule is correct. Any deliberate action by players that causes the crowd to surge forward or encroach on the pitch should be firmly discouraged IMO.
A crowd surge is potentially dangerous, especially if children are at the front, and we definitely don't want spectators spilling onto the pitch.
There's been much criticism of stewards on this board in recent weeks, (certainly justified at Ewood on Wednesday), but they are damned when they get involved, and damned when they don't. Today they got trapped between City fans and City players.
It is also important to remember that Sterling didn't get a red card today for running at the crowd. He got a yellow. (A 2nd yellow thus resulting in his dismissal).
A lot of people are saying it was never a red card offence - they're right, (nor did he get one).

So you're saying players should be booked for scoring a last minute goal because it leads to fans surging forward?

He was given a second yellow for what exactly? He didn't run in the stand, he celebrated on the pitch the fans decided to join him. Are you not allowed to celebrate on the pitch? You're basically saying he should be punished for fans celebrating on the pitch.

[nil_desperandum]

Will you not see a surge every time a 96th minute winning goal is scored anyway?
I'd hope so.

Is that not why we have all-seater stadia, and we are now considering re-introducing "safe - standing" segregated by safety barriers??
In any event, I've not noticed anyone round me surge forward when we have scored important late goals in the past couple of seasons.

[nil_desperandum]

So you're saying players should be booked for scoring a last minute goal because it leads to fans surging forward?

He was given a second yellow for what exactly? He didn't run in the stand, he celebrated on the pitch the fans decided to join him. Are you not allowed to celebrate on the pitch? You're basically saying he should be punished for fans celebrating on the pitch.

I think you'll find that he left the pitch if you watch the incident.

[Dyched]

So the crowd got Sterling booked? Like I say Daniels did it but didn't get booked. 99% of players would have done it today. How many City players were with sterling 6/7? Not all got booked.

[martin_p]

So the crowd got Sterling booked? Like I say Daniels did it but didn't get booked. 99% of players would have done it today. How many City players were with sterling 6/7? Not all got booked.

I can remember two injury time winners for us at the Turf last season, neither player ran to the crowd.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Is that not why we have all-seater stadia, and we are now considering re-introducing "safe - standing" segregated by safety barriers??
In any event, I've not noticed anyone round me surge forward when we have scored important late goals in the past couple of seasons.

I've been sat on the end of rows at various all seaters and I can confirm there's usually a surge to the front.

[nil_desperandum]

So the crowd got Sterling booked? Like I say Daniels did it but didn't get booked. 99% of players would have done it today. How many City players were with sterling 6/7? Not all got booked.

Basically if Sterling hadn't behaved as he did then the players wouldn't have followed him, nor the crowd surged forward.
Not his fault really but that's why we have that rule.

[Bordeauxclaret]

So did Bournemouth accuse Aguero of anything originally or not??

Or is an apology needed??

[starting_11]

I believe there was an accusation of assault which was passed to the police (around 3pm)

[Greenmile]

Re Sterling, it seemed to me that he pushed through the line of stewards to get to the fans and that's where it crossed the line into yellow card territory, imo.

[KRBFC]

I can remember two injury time winners for us at the Turf last season, neither player ran to the crowd.

Did Barnes get booked against Wigan? Keane against Boro? Barton at Preston?

[CombatClaret]

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'incident' at 50 second mark. Non event.

[ClaretTony]

Bournemouth don't have anything to apologise for.

The initial statement was made by the steward to the police.

When they said an earlier statement had been withdrawn I assumed they'd made it.

[dsr]

I think what quite a lot of younger people don't realise, or else aren't clever enough or thoughtful enough to work out, is that football the way they want it into good for old people. Wait till you're 75 and have had a hip replacent - do you think you'll want to sit at the back with everyone standing in front of you? Or would you rather be at the front with the crowd climbing over you? I know the all-seater rule is a pain, but don't let that colour your attitude to tgheoldies - which one day, God willing, you will be yourself.

Rightly or wrongly, FIFA doesn't like crowd surges, and has bright in an easy-to-follow rule to try and cut them down. If Sterling is too thick to understand, then he can spend his week off trying to learn it.

[ClaretFelix]

I'm still trying to see where the stewards and police have got it wrong.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Two very perfect examples this week.

[fatboy47]

Retrospective punishment for Wharton ??

[arise_sir_charge]

Hope that the reporting steward gets charged with wasting police time.

[martin_p]

Did Barnes get booked against Wigan? Keane against Boro? Barton at Preston?

No, none of them pushed through stewards to get to the crowd.

[Bordeauxclaret]

When they said an earlier statement had been withdrawn I assumed they'd made it.

Is this just a misunderstanding? Without any sort of an apology?

Or did they make an original statement?

[bfcmik]

Sterling left the playing area to join the fans that is why he was booked, Daniels stood on the grassed area and did not try to join the fans which is why he did not. Sterling's action caused some supporters to encroach onto the playing area.

All areas inside the wall are counted as part of the playing area at Turf Moor which is why Barnes did not get booked

[Rileybobs]

As Greenmile points out, Sterling pushed past the line of stewards. Yellow card offence without a shadow of doubt. He was stupid, serves him right. And the pundits trying to excuse him because of the 'emotions running high' are equally idiotic.

The Aguero incident looks like a non-event. However he had no right to intervene with the stewards trying to do their job.

[martin_p]

As Greenmile points out, Sterling pushed past the line of stewards. Yellow card offence without a shadow of doubt. He was stupid, serves him right. And the pundits trying to excuse him because of the 'emotions running high' are equally idiotic.

The Aguero incident looks like a non-event. However he had no right to intervene with the stewards trying to do their job.

Talking of Aguero, there's another player who didn't need to run into the crowd when 'emotions were running high' after scoring the injury time goal that won City the Premier League'.