Arthritic Knee and a claret? Me too

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:36 pm

I'm thinking of setting up a messageboard for Clarets fans who have arthritic knees.
Greater understanding is needed in order to help the sufferers of this disease.
If we could get able bodied fans to appreciate that when they jump up for a goal or an exciting point in a game the person behind may not be able to react quite as quickly and with a little more thought they could jump more slowly to allow us to catch up.
As our affliction is not obvious to most it would help if we could have a badge to allow us to get preference at the urinals and avoid the pain of being pushed and shoved about. Perhaps the club could offer us our own area?
These and many more examples could be discussed in our very own messageboard.
If this is successful I would intend setting up messageboards to help baldies, fatties and those with high blood pressure.

LawsCanalJump · Post by **LawsCanalJump** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:44 pm

Good one

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:44 pm

Oh shut up.

Maybe when people with arthritic knees are sent to a concentration camp just because of their knees http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 77901.html

Or blown up for having an arthritic knee http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/30/deadly-na ... n-6606700/

Or beaten up for having an arthritic knee http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-4 ... n-brighton

Or are denied a room in a B&B simply because the owners are disgusted by arthritic knees https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/ ... -hoteliers

Than maybe you'll have a point.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:45 pm

Soooooooooooooo funny.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:48 pm

Very poor thread.

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:49 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Oh shut up.

Maybe when people with arthritic knees are sent to a concentration camp just because of their knees http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 77901.html

I think you'll find that disabled people were sent to concentration camps for being disabled in WWII by the Nazi B'stards......

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:51 pm

If you think that all B&B rooms are accessible to people with arthritic knees, then you've clearly not got one and not known anyone that has. You might be surprised by the number of B&Bs that don't have lifts.

(Anyway, the gay element of that hotel case was pretty much a red herring. The hoteliers tried to exclude all unmarried couples, and did not discriminate at all between male-male and male-female pairs. But still, tolerance is something that some people can only demand and will not under any circumstance give back.)

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:52 pm

COYC73 wrote:I think you'll find that disabled people were sent to concentration camps for being disabled in WWII by the Nazi B'stards......

And are beaten up and abused for it

and judging by posts on this board should not be allowed into grounds that don't have facilities for them, nor should clubs have to spend money on facilities for them

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:53 pm

Perhaps there is an initiative here for the club shop?
Periscopes, like those that used to be available at big golf events, would eliminate the need to stand up to celebrate a goal and colostomy pouches (in the club's colours) could be available to avoid being man-handled by desperados during visits to the khazi (unlimited use during matchdays).

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:55 pm

dsr wrote:If you think that all B&B rooms are accessible to people with arthritic knees, then you've clearly not got one and not known anyone that has. You might be surprised by the number of B&Bs that don't have lifts.

(Anyway, the gay element of that hotel case was pretty much a red herring. The hoteliers tried to exclude all unmarried couples, and did not discriminate at all between male-male and male-female pairs. But still, tolerance is something that some people can only demand and will not under any circumstance give back.)

This was before gay marriage was a thing, though, wasn't it? So they were still (illegally) discriminating.

You seem to be suggesting that we should tolerate other people's intolerance - that's not really what tolerance means.

longside72 · Post by **longside72** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:59 pm

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:07 pm

I thought that was quite funny and now I feel terrible

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:08 pm

Greenmile wrote:This was before gay marriage was a thing, though, wasn't it? So they were still (illegally) discriminating.

You seem to be suggesting that we should tolerate other people's intolerance - that's not really what tolerance means.

Tolerance is what Tim Farron did, not actively supporting gay marriage which he didn't agree with, but allowing people to get on with their own lives in their own way. Intolerance is what the people who hounded him out showed, because they don't believe in tolerance.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:16 pm

It's not even about 'tolerance'

Tolerance suggests that you don't like it, but you'll tolerate it.

Acceptance is far better.

Accept that sometimes men love men, or women love women, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:17 pm

Acceptance may be better, but tolerance is enough.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:18 pm

UpTheBeehole - ironic

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:20 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:UpTheBeehole - ironic

Because that form of sex is exclusive to gay men, obviously....

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:21 pm

dsr wrote:Tolerance is what Tim Farron did, not actively supporting gay marriage which he didn't agree with, but allowing people to get on with their own lives in their own way. Intolerance is what the people who hounded him out showed, because they don't believe in tolerance.

Farron chose to resign (as opposed to being "hounded out") and his voting record suggests he wouldn't have allowed gay people to get on with their own lives in their own way, if he had his way, so he's not all that tolerant himself. I'm sure he paid plenty of lip service to the idea of gay rights but, in his own words, “What counts is your actions and your beliefs in politics.”

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Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:25 pm

The original post certainly made me chuckle!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:30 pm

There are practical needs for people with these joint conditions. People are impatient in the stands and the toilets but they can't see that you have a condition that might make you different. Just as much right to setup a separate group as any other fan. Personally I prefer if there aren't sub groups and other fans try and be considerate without you having to label yourself to make a statement. No doubt the sensitive liberals will be along soon.

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:49 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:It's not even about 'tolerance'

Tolerance suggests that you don't like it, but you'll tolerate it.

Acceptance is far better.

Accept that sometimes men love men, or women love women, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I'm not sure there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.....because if EVERYBODY had been born gay way back when then that would be the end of the human race, nobody would be having any children and the human race would have died off.....Obviously that wouldn't happen in modern times because people would use IVF....

BFC Gold · Post by **BFC Gold** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:57 pm

Maybe a `joint` Mardi Gras on the pitch for half time entertainment.

AliceDevine · Post by **AliceDevine** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:27 pm

COYC73 wrote:I'm not sure there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.....because if EVERYBODY had been born gay way back when then that would be the end of the human race, nobody would be having any children and the human race would have died off.....Obviously that wouldn't happen in modern times because people would use IVF....

But the wording was 'sometimes men love men and women love women' nowhere has anyone else said that everyone should be gay.

Can you imagine if everyone in the world was able or willing to reproduce? We'd be in an even more horrendous state when it comes to overpopulation!

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:32 pm

Just a joint would be better.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:43 pm

I sometimes have a bit of a dodgy knee and other times it is fine - Would I still be welcome.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:50 pm

Burnley FC needs more homosexual arthritic Ireland supporting supporters clubs.

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:52 pm

AliceDevine wrote:But the wording was 'sometimes men love men and women love women' nowhere has anyone else said that everyone should be gay.

Can you imagine if everyone in the world was able or willing to reproduce? We'd be in an even more horrendous state when it comes to overpopulation!

Yes the wording was sometimes.....but I'm saying all......For example if all animals on the planet overnight turned gay and would only get together with the same sex.....it would be considered that there was something wrong with it.....

brigante · Post by **brigante** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 pm

Membership will be capped

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:07 pm

Tolerance or acceptance.
Tolerance is where you disagree with someone's views but allow them to express them. ie someone who doesn't like the idea of homosexuality but doesn't try to discriminate against homosexuals.
Acceptance - where someone accepts homosexuality as a normal and acceptable part of society regardless of their own sexuality.

Do people want tolerance or acceptance.

We have this modern trend to misapply the English language.

Intolerance is shown with how the Far right treat people of a different colour or where ant neo nazi groups treat Neo Nazi groups - some intolerance is deemed acceptable - intolerance of terrorism.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:21 pm

I have an old wrist injury(fell off a bike my eyesight is fine before there's any inuendos )that might become arthritic in time is there a specific wrist limp I can develop to identify me as a hetrosexual Claret as opposed to a specific wrist limp that might identify me as a gay Claret ?

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:23 pm

Just heard that the club are budgeting for gender neutral toilets for each of the four concourses during the close season. The exception being that for away fans, where it's expected of the ******* to tolerate each other's leaning under the commonality of being fans of the same club

sleeperclaret · Post by **sleeperclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:39 pm

It's threads like this that demonstrate why a different supporters club is a good idea.

If you're mocking the desire to want to set up a supporters club then I do fear your brain may explode if confronted with someone that doesn't conform to your ideas of sexuality.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:42 pm

sleeperclaret wrote:It's threads like this that demonstrate why a different supporters club is a good idea.

If you're mocking the desire to want to set up a supporters club then I do fear your brain may explode if confronted with someone that doesn't conform to your ideas of sexuality.

Ewwwwwwww get you.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:56 pm

Probably going to need different supporters clubs for the tea drinkers and coffee drinkers as well.

There'll be bloodshed if them two factions travel to away games on the same coach.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:00 pm

There's nothing wrong with my sexuality though when I tried to kiss the wife in the Longside there was no one who would hold my potato pie for me.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:05 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:There's nothing wrong with my sexuality though when I tried to kiss the wife in the Longside there was no one who would hold my potato pie for me.

I've never heard it called that before,we're you after a sort of threesome?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:06 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote: there was no one who would hold my potato pie for me.

I don't believe that for one minute.

There'd be a couple of thousand willing to stick their dicks up your bottom for the hold of a pie (which you wouldn't get back).

sleeperclaret · Post by **sleeperclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:08 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:There's nothing wrong with my sexuality though when I tried to kiss the wife in the Longside there was no one who would hold my potato pie for me.

Implying that there is something wrong with someone else's sexuality?

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:11 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:I'm thinking of setting up a messageboard for Clarets fans who have arthritic knees.
Greater understanding is needed in order to help the sufferers of this disease.
If we could get able bodied fans to appreciate that when they jump up for a goal or an exciting point in a game the person behind may not be able to react quite as quickly and with a little more thought they could jump more slowly to allow us to catch up.
As our affliction is not obvious to most it would help if we could have a badge to allow us to get preference at the urinals and avoid the pain of being pushed and shoved about. Perhaps the club could offer us our own area?
These and many more examples could be discussed in our very own messageboard.
If this is successful I would intend setting up messageboards to help baldies, fatties and those with high blood pressure.

With all respect to, and especially those who have ST in Bob Lord stand, isn't the Bob Lord where all arthritic knee suffers sit - with tartan blankets across their knees.

Good chance I'll be joining you one day, meanwhile I'm happy to welcome Burnley's own LGBTQ+ supporters group.

UTC

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:12 pm

sleeperclaret wrote:Implying that there is something wrong with someone else's sexuality?

Stop picking on the bl00dy pie.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:26 pm

I see your point bfcjg but the wife had no interest as there was no veg

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:00 pm

Paul Waine so you think it is acceptable to make fun at arthritic suffererers expense do you ? You are normally the first to jump down people's throats for making fun of or light of minority groups or people with afflictions. Double standards. Arthritis is damn painful for those that have it.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:04 pm

In fact I think I will set up an above 65 supporters group so these supporters don't have to be subject to ageist comments that may be offensive from people like Paul Waine.

OffTheBar · Post by **OffTheBar** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:07 pm

Blackrod wrote:In fact I think I will set up an above 65 supporters group so these supporters don't have to be subject to ageist comments that may be offensive from people like Paul Waine.

And since when has arthritis been the preserve of the older generation???

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:02 pm

It is inferred by mentioning tartan blankets across knees. It is widely known that many of our elderly supporters sit in the Bob Lord stand. It isn't just the elderly that suffer from this but this is implied in Paul Waine s post. He also makes light of the illness. Double standards when he appears so sensitive on 'offensive' comments.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:34 pm

Blackrod wrote:Paul Waine so you think it is acceptable to make fun at arthritic suffererers expense do you ? You are normally the first to jump down people's throats for making fun of or light of minority groups or people with afflictions. Double standards. Arthritis is damn painful for those that have it.

Hi Blackrod, no, I do not think it is acceptable to make fun at arthritic sufferers. I do feel the "hostile" responses by some to the suggestions that Burnley FC set up LGBTQ+ supporters group deserve a "robust" response.

I know arthritis is painful. I know it's a disease that can afflict younger generations as well as older generations.

I hope you will allow me to join you in the 65 and over group in a year's time - with my "claret and blue" tartan blanket.

UTC

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:45 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Hi Blackrod, no, I do not think it is acceptable to make fun at arthritic sufferers. I do feel the "hostile" responses by some to the suggestions that Burnley FC set up LGBTQ+ supporters group deserve a "robust" response.

I know arthritis is painful. I know it's a disease that can afflict younger generations as well as older generations.

I hope you will allow me to join you in the 65 and over group in a year's time - with my "claret and blue" tartan blanket.

UTC

Tartan? Racist.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:57 pm

dsr wrote:Tartan? Racist.

Or is that just "cultural appropriation?"

I don't claim this as fact, but it is possible that other cultures have used designs similar to "Scottish tartan."

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:58 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Or is that just "cultural appropriation?"

I don't claim this as fact, but it is possible that other cultures have used designs similar to "Scottish tartan."

Then you're being racist against all of them.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:10 am

dsr wrote:Then you're being racist against all of them.

Hi dsr, is "cultural appropriation" classed as "racist?" I can't keep up. I guess I must claim heritage from one (or more) of these groups that created "tartan" or "plaid" - or something with a different name but the same design.

I'm trying to get my head around how anyone can be "half as clever as you think you are" and "twice as clever as you really are."

So, assume I think I've got IX (not IQ, a different scale) of 100 (for sake or discussion), but my real IX is 50 (half of 100), how can I also be "twice as clever" as IX of 50 - doesn't this put be back at 100?

it's late. I'm tired. I'll take this conundrum to bed with me.

Have a good night.