too defensive today

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:50 pm

Dyche got it totally wrong today. he should have gone 2 up front and give it a real good go. disappointed. we could have put it right up them.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:51 pm

Would have shipped 6 if we'd gone 442

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:52 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Dyche got it totally wrong today. he should have gone 2 up front and give it a real good go. disappointed. we could have put it right up them.

So you'd rather lose 9 - 1 than 3 - 0?

PS - Would you care to tell Sean that he got it wrong???

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:53 pm

Leisure wrote:So you'd rather lose 9 - 1 than 3 - 0?

I think he's fishing without a licence.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:53 pm

We'd probably have needed an abacus to keep count.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:56 pm

"Positive realities" - that's all that matters.

UTC

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:58 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Dyche got it totally wrong today. he should have gone 2 up front and give it a real good go. disappointed. we could have put it right up them.

Yeah agree i think Dyche may have managed his last game for us.
We should be going to places like that and ramming our brand of football down their necks.
He's done well for us but now we need some one to take us to the next level.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:03 pm

Totally agree but he should've took risks at 0-1 not from kick off. Disappointing to lose a game of football and not even try to score a goal. We should've took massive risks and thrown men forward at 0-1, if we ship another 3-4 because of it then so be it.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:05 pm

KRBFC wrote:Totally agree but he should've took risks at 0-1 not from kick off. Disappointing to lose a game of football and not even try to score a goal. We should've took massive risks and thrown men forward at 0-1, if we ship another 3-4 because of it then so be it.

Yeah, right!

So you really think that we didn't try to score?

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:05 pm

LOL...i cant work out whether its people taking the **** or who are generally thick

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:07 pm

Goalposts wrote:LOL...i cant work out whether its people taking the **** or who are generally thick

Maybe I'm genuinely thick because I expected my football team to try and score a goal in a game of football. We sat back and took a spanking and just accepted it because "Man City are good".

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:07 pm

Goalposts wrote:LOL...i cant work out whether its people taking the **** or who are generally thick

the latter in most cases sadly

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:11 pm

Leisure wrote:Yeah, right!

So you really think that we didn't try to score?

I don't think we went for it at 0-1 at all, do you think we did? We almost allowed them to win and focused on not getting a real pasting.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:13 pm

My money's on generally thick!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:22 pm

KRBFC wrote:Maybe I'm genuinely thick because I expected my football team to try and score a goal in a game of football. We sat back and took a spanking and just accepted it because "Man City are good".

It's not that straightforward though. Do you look to score and risk getting absolutely royally bonked, or do you sit back and sneak a goal on a set piece? It's also about player morale and the game(s) after today. Lose 7-0 and it can impact your team for weeks to come. Lose 3-0 and it's not so bad and it's easier and quicker to get 'back to the drawing board'.

You think with one variable. Managers like Sean Dyche don't. Which is why they're managing clubs like Burnley.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:24 pm

Stoke got spanked last week and lost again today.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:Maybe I'm genuinely thick because I expected my football team to try and score a goal in a game of football. We sat back and took a spanking and just accepted it because "Man City are good".

Exactly we paid them to much respect and set up not to get hammered.
I'm sick of this anti football we play,as fans we deserve more.
It seems Dyche is found wanting again,this is why no top 6 team will go near him.
It would be best if he moved on then the club can do the same

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:33 pm

We could go about the way Watford and Stoke did and be out of the game by 40 minutes or we could sit-back and hope to nick an equaliser which we did until some poor defending from a corner, maybe if Wood doens't go off injured we get the equaliser.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:36 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Stoke got spanked last week and lost again today.

Yep. It can dent confidence and cost more than just 3 points.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:46 pm

all im saying is that we might as well have gone for it without having 10 men behind the ball all game. might have had a better chance of getting a result. we were just waiting on them to score. chance wasted in my book.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:54 pm

We had a spell at the start of the second half when we looked the more likely to score.

Not much you can do against a side like them though.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:02 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:all im saying is that we might as well have gone for it without having 10 men behind the ball all game. might have had a better chance of getting a result. we were just waiting on them to score. chance wasted in my book.

If you start a thread that invites negativity expect nothing more than negativity.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:03 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:We could go about the way Watford and Stoke did and be out of the game by 40 minutes or we could sit-back and hope to nick an equaliser which we did until some poor defending from a corner, maybe if Wood doens't go off injured we get the equaliser.

Instead we were out of the game from minute 1 with no intention of ever really taking a risk, I understand the cautious approach at 0-0 hoping to bore City into scoring a goal for us but at 0-1 with 30 left we still sat back and waited for them to score again. I'd have liked a positive approach at 0-1 with 30 left like we did at Spurs, we needed a goal to even have a chance of getting anything yet we continued with 10 men behind the ball, scared to open up and take the risk.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:06 pm

some of you must have missed Chris Wood one on one with their Keeper at 0-0 then

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:08 pm

bartons baggage wrote:If you start a thread that invites negativity expect nothing more than negativity.

a negative thread about not being positive enough

claretandblue1989 · Post by **claretandblue1989** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:12 pm

There's a reason why we are posting on forums and why Sean Dyche and his players were playing at the Etihad earlier today. None of us are good enough to play football to those sorts of standards (Premier League).

We should be happy to lose to Man City 3-0 away from home. This isn't fast food where you can pay a price and avoid the washing up, this is Burnley FC punching way above their weight against the Premier League's best. Enjoy the day out.

For the resources we have, we must be one of the best teams on the planet right now. I much prefer my team now having a regular slot on Match of the Day at the weekend and Rovers being satisfyingly closer in the football pyramid to Accy Stanley. When I was growing up, it was us who had no shirt sponsor and them who were in the Premier League.

The team spirit Sean Dyche has generated amongst this group is phenomenal. We will not win every game. United lost at Huddersfield today and that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. Instead of focusing on perceived 'negatives' maybe focus on our reality - a small town from Lancashire who are rubbing shoulders with some of the world's best.

Sean Dyche is the best thing that's ever happened to this club in my lifetime. To those who want him out, be careful what you wish for. He's a future Clough/Fergie, a very astute football manager and person besides.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:13 pm

We should be happy to lose to Man City 3-0 away from home.

prick

claretandblue1989 · Post by **claretandblue1989** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:23 pm

No one likes losing. But there is a slight delusion of grandeur when you honestly think we should be beating Man City at their home ground? Don't you think we've rode our luck already away from home? The law of averages has to kick in at some point and we will lose a game away from home. That's not 'being too defensive' that's just life.

Only the best don't lose, and there aren't many. Arsenal 2002 and still hasn't been done since? So yes, I can take a loss against the leaders of the league in their own back yard, dust myself off and hope we kick on again.

If that constitutes being a 'prick', don't let me burst your bubble.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:26 pm

Utter ******** this thread. We pressed them hard in their third and denied them space. We could have gone 1-0 up. We did end up playing most of thr game with only 1 striker in the match squad.

We were srull in that game until probably 60 mins when City started to click, firces a goal from a set piece and then the games gone.

We had Barnes up front alone for most of the game ffs. We are hardly going to stuff them that way are we?

Grow up

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:34 pm

We shipped three. Surely the title should be not defensive enough ?

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:39 pm

bfcjg wrote:We shipped three. Surely the title should be not defensive enough ?

you obviously don't get it

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:45 pm

Keeping it at 1-0 (and that penalty decision was contentious) until 70 + minutes suggests to me that SD got it spot on.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:47 pm

and that penalty decision was contentious

the ref didnt think so and that's all that matters

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:50 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:and that penalty decision was contentious

the ref didnt think so and that's all that matters

Regardless, we were in with a shout of a point for 70 odd minutes against a very good Man City.
Any decent manager would try to do that.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:51 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:you obviously don't get it

I obviously dont; but then again I am not a mental health specialist

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:53 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Utter ******** this thread. We pressed them hard in their third and denied them space. We could have gone 1-0 up. We did end up playing most of thr game with only 1 striker in the match squad.

We were srull in that game until probably 60 mins when City started to click, firces a goal from a set piece and then the games gone.

We had Barnes up front alone for most of the game ffs. We are hardly going to stuff them that way are we?

Grow up

How many shots on target did we manage?

We had Barnes upfront on his own is exactly my point, too defensive, no support for the striker. Unwilling to take the risk needed to try and get an equaliser.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:55 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Keeping it at 1-0 (and that penalty decision was contentious) until 70 + minutes suggests to me that SD got it spot on.

Why? You get 0 points for losing 0-1.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:58 pm

SD was spot on. A decent goal difference is a point.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:01 pm

City were there for the taking

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:01 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why? You get 0 points for losing 0-1.

Is there really any point in explaining this to you?

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:02 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Dyche got it totally wrong today. he should have gone 2 up front and give it a real good go. disappointed. we could have put it right up them.

Totally agree, never seen City with such a defensive set up.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:05 pm

Can't fault that today at all. Obviously a dodgy penalty, goals 2 and 3 were just sheer quality from city you have to hold your hands up and applaud. you could argue Defour should have cleared it for their 2nd but it was one of them bullet headers with perfect trajectory that there wasn't time to react.

I thought we caused them some issues and should have had a penalty ourselves.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:How many shots on target did we manage?

We had Barnes upfront on his own is exactly my point, too defensive, no support for the striker. Unwilling to take the risk needed to try and get an equaliser.

Because Wood went off injured and we jad noone else you tool.

The game plan was spot on. It almost came off. We caused them one or two problems and also contained them for a long period of the game.

This side have hammered every other bottom half team so far. That we were still in the game with injuries to 4 of our 5 forwards until the 2nd goal is worth something.

Ask Liverpool how well their plan of having a go went.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:06 pm

The biggest problem we had today was that neither Defour or Cork were at their passing best.
This led to us giving it back to them before we'd reached the halfway line. Then we were screwed.
No shame in losing to that side.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:07 pm

Beggars belief that people are calling for Dyches head !
Do any of these loons seriously think we had the quality to"give it to em"? The honest toil of the scottys,Ben mee's Barnes et al are hardly the players to rattle Man City We'd have been eaten alive if we'd gone toe to toe utterly smashed .
If and when we can ever afford world class players then the manager might be able to be less pragmatic against the Spurs /lpool and citehs of this world

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:08 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Because Wood went off injured and we jad noone else you tool.

The game plan was spot on. It almost came off. We caused them one or two problems and also contained them for a long period of the game.

This side have hammered every other bottom half team so far. That we were still in the game with injuries to 4 of our 5 forwards until the 2nd goal is worth something.

Ask Liverpool how well their plan of having a go went.

Liverpool were the better team until they got a man sent off and collapsed.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:10 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Beggars belief that people are calling for Dyches head !
Do any of these loons seriously think we had the quality to"give it to em"? The honest toil of the scottys,Ben mee's Barnes et al are hardly the players to rattle Man City We'd have been eaten alive if we'd gone toe to toe utterly smashed .
If and when we can ever afford world class players then the manager might be able to be less pragmatic against the Spurs /lpool and citehs of this world

Absolutely I believe our players are good enough to score a goal against any team. What else do you suggest we do at 0-1 with 30 minutes left? Most fans on here have no ambition, they're delighted we sat back and accepted defeat with 30 minutes left.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:10 pm

What aboit chelsea then? They have far better players than us but failed to make a dent at all.

Ask anyome they've played so far.

Grow up

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:14 pm

whose calling for Dyches head

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:14 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:What aboit chelsea then? They have far better players than us but failed to make a dent at all.

Ask anyome they've played so far.

Grow up

babyclaret. says it all