Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

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Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Rodleydave » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:36 pm

A chum who has just returned from Canada and who is a mathematician, met another ace mathematician/statistician out there
who has worked out all the possible results and permutations of teams below us and calculated that BFC can NOT go down, mathematically impossible.
That was when we had 36 points and today we got to 37.
That's the good news then.
I therefore dozed happily in the sunshine.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:39 pm

Tell your mathematician some of us were saying this in October.
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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:50 pm

if the large hadron collider malfunctions again, and we end up in a parallel universe, it is possible, being a claret, you shouldn't take anything for granted.
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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:11 am

Oh No, I backed us at 2000/1 to go down, what a load of ********, are they 100% sure we are still 500/1 you know?

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:58 pm

So, as expected, all those on here claiming that it may take more than 40 points this season, were talking complete poppycock!

Que sopresa!

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Spijed » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:02 pm

The same story was on the Beeb:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43049564" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by MrClaretandBlue » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:06 pm

No flies on you Columbo.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by KRBFC » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:09 pm

Makes it even more of a farce how we still haven't experimented and instead stuck doing the same things that haven't worked in 3 months.
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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:14 pm

That thing on the Beeb talks a lot about past history and past averages etc, but doesn't appear to be categorically saying the Burnley can't possibly go down. They haven't included us in their table fair enough, but they haven't said 37 points will be enough beyond any shadow of doubt, I don't think.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:18 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:That thing on the Beeb talks a lot about past history and past averages etc, but doesn't appear to be categorically saying the Burnley can't possibly go down. They haven't included us in their table fair enough, but they haven't said 37 points will be enough beyond any shadow of doubt, I don't think.
That's because they don't care about us... oh hang on, they do... and all the refs are against us too, and will do anything to get us relegated, like yesterday, where Madley decided to start playing instead of officiating.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Spijed » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:21 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:but they haven't said 37 points will be enough beyond any shadow of doubt, I don't think.
Probably because the article was about 40 points!

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:21 pm

If this is true, then I wonder if any bookies will take a bet on us to stay up, even if it's 1/500.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:26 pm

Spijed wrote:Probably because the article was about 40 points!
Agreed Spijed, so why are we not included in the list of "possibles" and given a % score like the others? Am I missing something?

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:28 pm

If you have a few quid to tie up between now and may you can lay us at 520/1 to go down.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:Makes it even more of a farce how we still haven't experimented and instead stuck doing the same things that haven't worked in 3 months.
Agree. We should be going for it against the likes of southampton. Tbh even against the likes of utd.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:31 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:If you have a few quid to tie up between now and may you can lay us at 520/1 to go down.
I can't believe it's mathematically impossible for us go down, if bookies will still take a bet. Unless, they're going to earn more from the interest, having the money in their bank instead of the punter's.

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:44 pm

So contrary to the title of the thread, in 16 posts we still haven't got it straight!! That's UTC for ya!! :lol:

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by SGr » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:45 pm

And can we please acknowledge that just because we aren’t going down neither the players nor the manager are immune from criticism/scrutiny
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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by COYC73 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:47 pm

It’s not mathematically impossible at all.....your friend is talking bull if the story is even true!
If we don’t pick up another point all season and we ship loads of goals the teams below us only need 3 wins and a draw out of their last 10 games for us to drop into the bottom three....
Highly highly highly unlikely....but not mathematically impossible!
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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Joe14 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:48 pm

No sh1t Sherlock :lol:

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:52 pm

It is not mathematically impossible. We won't but we could mathematically still finish bottom.

UTC!

Edit: 5 mins too late :D

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by Spijed » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:58 pm

DSR did an excellent analysis based on the 40 point scenario (#19). Perhaps the total has now changed with one game more being played.

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... relegation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Lets get one thing straight we are not going down

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:09 pm

Rodleydave wrote:A chum who has just returned from Canada and who is a mathematician, met another ace mathematician/statistician out there
who has worked out all the possible results and permutations of teams below us and calculated that BFC can NOT go down, mathematically impossible.
That was when we had 36 points and today we got to 37.
That's the good news then.
I therefore dozed happily in the sunshine.
Sorry to break this to you Dave but your mates need to do a maths refresher.

It isn’t just possible for us to go down, it is possible for us to finish bottom.

We won’t of course, I’ve been led in the sunshine for two months, so to speak.

It isn’t that hard a spreadsheet because there are only approx 100 games left with 3 possible results each. The best thing to do though is the use one of the excellent websites like http://www.thefishy.co.uk. You can choose which teams you want to predict results for, and they will do the rest based on recent form. I predicted pessimistic results for us and the bottom seven, and we finished bottom.

The odds are probably about 100,000,000-1 so if the pessimists stick £10 on, they’ll be billionaires ;-)

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