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Burger Bonus

Post by claretburns » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:24 pm

Accrington Stanley chairman has been asked to respond to a Football League enquiry after saying he gives the players £200 after a win to get "McDonalds or the like". If they lose or draw the team have to pay themselves.

It goes against EFL regulations because any payment in such a way must be included in the players contracts. I know Premier League may have different rules but I can't remember Claudio Ranieri being called to respond to these claims when he bought the whole Leicester team pizzas.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:28 pm

I think it's his wording, he makes it out like it's set in stone, like a win bonus.

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Post by LordBob » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:14 pm

Ha Ha some bonus ! I think the EFL response is pathetic the situation didn't need any response, Stanley just gone 1 up against County get the burgers ready.

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Post by Hipper » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:22 pm

Let's see if the Inland Revenue take an interest!

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:26 pm

If they eat that sh!te, they deserve to stay down.

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Post by LordBob » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:38 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:If they eat that sh!te, they deserve to stay down.
Brilliant!!

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:45 pm

I think Andy Holt has been very critical of the EFL on Twitter so they will be trying ways to shut him up.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by BennyD » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:44 pm

Ranieri treated Leics City players to a pizza if they won and kept a clean sheet; much the same thing but no one batted an eyelid. Typical English jobsworth bollocxs.

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Post by edison » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:48 pm

He should tell the league to burger off

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Post by LordBob » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:52 pm

And if you score you get a McFlurry of your choice.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by tim_noone » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:01 pm

Just another case of leaving the sharks alone and pursuing the tiddlers
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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by mdd2 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:12 pm

Another good win for Stanley; an amazing season for them as well as us and to think 26yr ago we were not quite as well placed with 7 games to go-but we were pretty close.
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Post by FactualFrank » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:17 pm

I bet they're lovin' it.

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Post by Dyched » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:30 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I bet they're lovin' it.
They must relish this position

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Dyched wrote:They must relish this position
Their manager certainly knows his onions but it is still possible for Luton to ketchup with Stanley.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:36 pm

claretburns wrote:Accrington Stanley chairman has been asked to respond to a Football League enquiry after saying he gives the players £200 after a win to get "McDonalds or the like". If they lose or draw the team have to pay themselves.

It goes against EFL regulations because any payment in such a way must be included in the players contracts. I know Premier League may have different rules but I can't remember Claudio Ranieri being called to respond to these claims when he bought the whole Leicester team pizzas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43617974" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What was the sauce for the rumour?

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:30 pm

claretburns wrote: It goes against EFL regulations because any payment in such a way must be included in the players contracts.
Can you imagine a player handing in a transfer request for breach of contract because the Chairman wasn’t at a service station to get his hand in his pocket after an away win.

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Post by bfcjg » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:51 pm

If Andy Holt has made this story up it's one hell of a Whopper.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by conyoviejo » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:03 pm

Accy have put a cheeky bid in for Ronald McDonald.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by watsonsclarets » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:05 pm

Look out for Accy new sponsorship with McDonalds or the like!!!

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Post by Jamesy » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:52 pm

Speaking of burgers, did anyone sample the burgers inside the fan zone on Saturday? Best burger I have had in a long while.

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Post by PLTMGMBJ » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:32 pm

I read this earlier. Is this as a result of it being a particular brand name? Sponsorship issues etc? I fail to see how a Chairman buying his players burgers is an issue?!

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by Clarets4me » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:57 am

To quote the Stanley Press Officer....

" It's high time the EFL big " Cheeses ", with their fancy London Offices near the " Gherkin ", stopped " Going Large " with these " Whoppers ", and had a " Drive thru " some of the smaller towns our Clubs represent. They should " Relish " the fact, that smaller Clubs know their " Onions " and " Lettuce " get on with things. We have no " Beef " with the EFL, but they should " Burger " off, and recognise that there are no " Fries " on us !!!

:D

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by piston broke » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:13 pm

The silly burgers at the EFL have given Stanley permission to carry on scoffing.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by Milltown1882 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:59 pm

Slap on the wrists by the looks of it.

"Further to our previous communication issued on Monday 2nd April, the EFL has now completed its review of Accrington Stanley’s response to the EFL’s request for observations in respect of EFL Regulation 61.6.

The stipulated Regulation requires clubs to fully detail any payments and benefits provided, whether in cash or in kind, directly or indirectly, to players in the Standard Player Contract.

The club was contacted as a result of a public comment made by Accrington Stanley’s Chairman Mr Holt in which he discussed providing his squad with a cash amount to spend on food or drink in the event of the team winning or drawing a match.

Had Mr Holt’s comment specified that the payment was made irrespective of the result, then there would have been no requirement to question the action, as it is acknowledged that subsistence is required for players after matches.

The EFL noted that there was no provision for results-based payments within the club’s bonus schedule. This schedule forms part of the contract and has to be submitted prior to the commencement of each season, including all amounts payable no matter how these bonuses manifest themselves or how large or small the monetary value.

This requirement is intended to ensure transparency in respect of all such payments and underpins a number of important aspects of the EFL’s Regulations including inducements and salary cost controls.

In the interests of fairness of competition and the integrity of the League, the EFL monitors clubs’ compliance with various aspects of the Regulations and will request observations on any number of different matters during each season. Having written to Accrington Stanley on 21st March 2018 to request written explanations on the matter, the club was given seven days to respond.

The EFL would not normally comment on correspondence such as this, regarding it as private and confidential, but as a result of the matter being made public by Mr Holt, it was felt necessary to fully explain why the appropriate action was being taken.

The club’s response has confirmed that no contractual provisions exist to support the payment of amounts in this manner.

However, EFL Regulations do not prohibit the provision of subsistence and as long as the club adopts a consistent approach for all matches, and arrangements are not linked to success on the pitch, the club can continue to make appropriate provision.

The EFL has reminded the club of its responsibilities in relation to meeting EFL Regulations. It is a matter for the club to ensure it complies with all appropriate HMRC guidance regarding such matters. "

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by ClaretEngineer » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:11 pm

And how much time and money did the EFL and HMRC spend “reminding him of his responsibilities”

Jokers.

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by IAmAClaret » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:54 pm

The Owner must buy the McDonalds regardless of the result - That is the Football League response. Jokers

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Re: Burger Bonus

Post by iluva64 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:09 pm

Can I have a Twix rather than a burger?

You can put two fingers up to the FA then

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Eat when you're winning - are Accy breaking rules?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:57 pm

Seems Accy Stanley are in breach of regulations when buying food and drink for their players after a positive result

https://www.efl.com/news/2018/april/efl ... n-stanley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Eat when you're winning - are Accy breaking rules?

Post by claretspice » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:08 pm

Seems fair enough to me, particularly as it appears the sanction on this occasion is a slap on the wrist.

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Re: Eat when you're winning - are Accy breaking rules?

Post by MrTopTier » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:17 pm

Andy Holt criticised EFL recently. EFL go after him, typical Shaun Harvey tactics.

Have the EFL done anything about Blackpool or Coventry, have they sorted the QPR FFP issue out yet. Have they ********.

Typical EFL go after the small pointless issues in football, so they can justify their existence.

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Re: Eat when you're winning - are Accy breaking rules?

Post by Milltown1882 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:47 pm

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