Wooden Seats in Cricket Field Stand on their way ?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:44 pm

UEFA have told the club the wooden seats in the away section of the CFS must go if we reach the Group Stages of the Europa League

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:46 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:UEFA have told the club the wooden seats in the away section of the CFS must go if we reach the Group Stages of the Europa League

What about the home stand and Bob Lord?

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:47 pm

Away only

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IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:48 pm

Should we ask the Turks to remove them?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:50 pm

Seats for spectators must be individual, fixed (e.g. to the floor), separated from
one another, shaped, numbered, made of an unbreakable and non-flammable
material, and have a backrest of a minimum height of 30cm when measured
from the seat.

Those are the rules.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:50 pm

IanMcL wrote:Should we ask the Turks to remove them?

Considering they only get 3,000 at home we should only need to change a couple of hundred.

Seriously, as we don't want to waste money, is it possible to change them for benches, or do they have to be individual seats.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:51 pm

We're gonna lose on purpose so we don't have to do the work.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:55 pm

Good cast C and J. Didnt think the club was mega bothered about EL, until last night. Something changed. I like change.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:56 pm

I like the " eg to the floor " bit...

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:57 pm

Do they have to face the pitch ?

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:59 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Those are the rules.

"Unbreakable" can't be plastic either then.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:59 pm

Stupid UEFA. To be non-flammable doesn't mean that a seat can't catch fire, just that it can't catch fire easily. I bet you'd struggle to set fire to those seats by putting a lighter to them. And plastic can burn, so it's not as if plastic meets the rules any more than wood.

Is it 5% of the seats that have to be for away supporters? If so, can't we set aside 500 corner seats on the Jimmy Mac Lower and use the whole Cricket Field for us?

[Edit - it would be 1,000 seats to get 5%.]

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:05 pm

Why only the away seats???

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:09 pm

As someone has suggested, just move the away fans to the Jimmy Mac lower.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:13 pm

Leisure wrote:Why only the away seats???

Because it's the away fans who tend to rip them up and throw them at people, a poxy bit of plastic won't do the damage a solid lump of wood will.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:14 pm

I can see an opportunity here: sell off the wooden seats to Burnley fans. Wouldn't we all want at least one of these in our homes? Maybe a nice set of 4 or 6 as special features around the dining/kitchen table? Maybe the buyers of 10 wooden seats could have priority for away tickets - alongside the 6,000 pointers.

Who knows, maybe the Cricketfield Stand wooden seats could become a "design classic" just like the Chesterfields (not the tilted spire) or the Swedish "egg" chair (or whatever it is).

Mix the wooden seats with some historic "weavers triangle" spindles and bobbins and we will have created a "Northern Powerhouse Revival" fashion. I can see it on BBC2 next year - and an inspiration for the fashion shows for Autumn 2019.

You read it here first.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:16 pm

IanMcL wrote:Should we ask the Turks to remove them?

Ha! They’d have to get very busy. I think it’s entirely possible there will be no away fans at all at the Turf.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:21 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:Good cast C and J. Didnt think the club was mega bothered about EL, until last night. Something changed. I like change.

SD has made it quite clear that the EL will not be to the detriment of the PL. TThe Aberdeen games were “competitive friendlies” - great for getting the first team up to speed for the season. Once we start, expect to see a few changes for the EL games.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:22 pm

IanMcL wrote:Should we ask the Turks to remove them?

We could always play a 'friendly'against Millwall

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:22 pm

scouseclaret wrote:SD has made it quite clear that the EL will not be to the detriment of the PL. TThe Aberdeen games were “competitive friendlies” - great for getting the first team up to speed for the season. Once we start, expect to see a few changes for the EL games.

He also gave Wood one of the biggest bollockings I've ever seen from him when they scored...

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:28 pm

scouseclaret wrote:SD has made it quite clear that the EL will not be to the detriment of the PL. TThe Aberdeen games were “competitive friendlies” - great for getting the first team up to speed for the season. Once we start, expect to see a few changes for the EL games.

I think every Burnley knows the real prize / aim is 17th in the Prem, above that is a brucey. I just thought last night, Dyche wanted it, wants to test himself and the club in Europe, honestly, i dont know why, but thought prior to last night this was more a hindrance than an opportunity. Ultimately and rightly so, we risk top flight football for nothing!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:36 pm

If I thought our aim was "17th in the prem" I'd be really disappointed.

We can finish above that, surely?

16th?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:37 pm

No one sits on them ...they won't be missed!

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:38 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:If I thought our aim was "17th in the prem" I'd be really disappointed.

We can finish above that, surely?

16th?

Get to 17th (Guaranteed) hopefully by Feb / March the rest is party time

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:43 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:Get to 17th (Guaranteed) hopefully by Feb / March the rest is party time

You mean, play 30 matches or so with no real pressure, no real danger of relegation, and a strong desire to lose all matches that might mean something; then play friendlies for the rest of the season. Repeat ad infinitum.

If you define football excitement by reading a balances sheet, it sounds fun. What exactly is the point of playing the matches if you positively do not want to win anything?

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:46 pm

I can well believe Dyche is aiming for 17th judging by the hapless way we've gone about our transfer business so far this summer

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:49 pm

scouseclaret wrote:Ha! They’d have to get very busy. I think it’s entirely possible there will be no away fans at all at the Turf.

Any Turkish restaurants or chillies nearby?

One on the corner near the ground, isn't there?

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:56 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:I can well believe Dyche is aiming for 17th judging by the hapless way we've gone about our transfer business so far this summer

On what basis? With the squad retention that finished so well last season, 2 goalies injured which will return & a able deputy. Other teams have strengthened & chances are so will others spurs aside.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:56 pm

dsr wrote:You mean, play 30 matches or so with no real pressure, no real danger of relegation, and a strong desire to lose all matches that might mean something; then play friendlies for the rest of the season. Repeat ad infinitum.

If you define football excitement by reading a balances sheet, it sounds fun. What exactly is the point of playing the matches if you positively do not want to win anything?

Wow, you been home since last night? What I meant was survival im the premier league means everything. I would love us to win the Europa, but we could get into the group stage, pick up some cataclysmic injuries and be goosed. Until we have a bigger squad, the EL will fall behind the EPL.

For example; would you want 1/4s in Europa amd gladly accept relegation?

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:01 am

Jakubclaret wrote:On what basis? With the squad retention that finished so well last season, 2 goalies injured which will return & a able deputy. Other teams have strengthened & chances are so will others spurs aside.

I gave my reasoning in my post, its only one sentence so you cant have missed it

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:02 am

How did Everton get away with it last season then?

I would be inclined to believe the Beano before the Daily Mail.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:02 am

I wonder how they feel about rail seats?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:13 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:Wow, you been home since last night? What I meant was survival im the premier league means everything. I would love us to win the Europa, but we could get into the group stage, pick up some cataclysmic injuries and be goosed. Until we have a bigger squad, the EL will fall behind the EPL.

For example; would you want 1/4s in Europa amd gladly accept relegation?

I would probably take something not too dissimilar to that.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:15 am

1/4s in Europa and relegation? Or quarters in Europe and 17th?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:55 am

Pity we can't arrange a friendly with Millwall. They are pretty good at taking out the wooden seats. Aren't there a few plastic ones in the CF stand now courtesy of Millwall fans in around 1999-2000 season?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:57 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I would probably take something not too dissimilar to that.

Why?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:06 am

fidelcastro wrote:Why?

Because to get to the quarter finals of the europa league would mean we would've

Knocked out Aberdeen in a two legged tie
Knocked out Istanbul in a two legged tie
Knocked out a major team like Sevilla or Feyenoord in a two legged tie to reach the groups
Then qualify from a group as an unseeded team against some big name European sides
Won the last 32 in a two legged tie
Won the last 16 in a two legged tie

So we would have had 16 memorable nights in Europe before whatever happened in the last two games in the quarter final.

Those nights would be forever in our memories. I can only imagine how my young nephews would remember the experiences they'd have had. They already can't believe they're going to Turkey next week to watch Burnley.

There will be many many other seasons when we play Watford, Fulham, wolves, Brighton, huddersfield, Bournemouth, west ham, Southampton, Cardiff, crystal palace and Leicester!!!!

That's why.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:12 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Because to get to the quarter finals of the europa league would mean we would've

Knocked out Aberdeen in a two legged tie
Knocked out Istanbul in a two legged tie
Knocked out a major team like Sevilla or Feyenoord in a two legged tie to reach the groups
Then qualify from a group as an unseeded team against some big name European sides
Won the last 32 in a two legged tie
Won the last 16 in a two legged tie

So we would have had 16 memorable nights in Europe before whatever happened in the last two games in the quarter final.

Those nights would be forever in our memories. I can only imagine how my young nephews would remember the experiences they'd have had. They already can't believe they're going to Turkey next week to watch Burnley.

There will be many many other seasons when we play Watford, Fulham, wolves, Brighton, huddersfield, Bournemouth, west ham, Southampton, Cardiff, crystal palace and Leicester!!!!

That's why.

Yeah, and we'd be back in the Championship

Still, if spending a fortune watching us in various parts of Europe means more to you, then fine.

Not for me though.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:13 am

Get a preservation order from English Heritage.

Carefully remove the wooden seats, make the away fans stand up for the matches, stick the seats back in when its all over.

A) Having no seats removes the potential for fire hazzards and dangerous abuse.

B) It's a lot cheaper than buying environmentally unfriendly plastic seats that nobody really wants.

C) Tired fans generate weaker support.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:15 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:Wow, you been home since last night? What I meant was survival im the premier league means everything. I would love us to win the Europa, but we could get into the group stage, pick up some cataclysmic injuries and be goosed. Until we have a bigger squad, the EL will fall behind the EPL.

For example; would you want 1/4s in Europa amd gladly accept relegation?

If survival in the Premier means everything, then all other matches mean nothing. To you, anyway. Not to me. I'd rather go and watch Accrington Stanley than watch a side that has given up hope of ever achieving anything.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:17 am

Do UEFA have any logic for thinking that the wooden seats were safe last night against Aberdeen but will not be safe in the group section?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:17 am

fidelcastro wrote:Yeah, and we'd be back in the Championship

Still, if spending a fortune watching us in various parts of Europe means more to you, then fine.

Not for me though.

Of course it does. The memories would be unimaginable.

We've been in the championship before and will again.

If being happy at a big balance sheet and fighting to do nothing more than stay up means more to you then fine.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:22 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Of course it does. The memories would be unimaginable.

We've been in the championship before and will again.

If being happy at a big balance sheet and fighting to do nothing more than stay up means more to you then fine.

I suppose it depends on how you define success and achievement.

Getting to a quarter final of a competition doesn't actually sound that great on paper, until you look at how many teams you'd have knocked out to get there, but I want to stay in the PL for as long as possible and not be back in the Championship.

Of course, maybe I'd think differently if I could afford to go to all these places

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:39 am

dsr wrote:If survival in the Premier means everything, then all other matches mean nothing. To you, anyway. Not to me. I'd rather go and watch Accrington Stanley than watch a side that has given up hope of ever achieving anything.

Dont get why you are being a d!ck tbf. Survival in the prem is the priority... or are you one of the new fans since 2010? I would love us to take Europe apart, and have a massive hit at it, but with Saints away and United at home we have to be prudent. Two great comps, we are like an elastic band. I hope we right on in Europe, and survive in the prem, you're talking like we are safe already so lets go mad? Fulham and Wolves are spilling cash, wont be easy

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:42 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:Dont get why you are being a d!ck tbf. Survival in the prem is the priority... or are you one of the new fans since 2010? I would love us to take Europe apart, and have a massive hit at it, but with Saints away and United at home we have to be prudent. Two great comps, we are like an elastic band. I hope we right on in Europe, and survive in the prem, you're talking like we are safe already so lets go mad? Fulham and Wolves are spilling cash, wont be easy

You've completely missed his point which was a good one

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:50 am

dsr wrote:Do UEFA have any logic for thinking that the wooden seats were safe last night against Aberdeen but will not be safe in the group section?

Or since 1968 & since 1974 respectively, probably older than the guy making the rule

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:23 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:Dont get why you are being a d!ck tbf. Survival in the prem is the priority... or are you one of the new fans since 2010? I would love us to take Europe apart, and have a massive hit at it, but with Saints away and United at home we have to be prudent. Two great comps, we are like an elastic band. I hope we right on in Europe, and survive in the prem, you're talking like we are safe already so lets go mad? Fulham and Wolves are spilling cash, wont be easy

You think that your opinion so clearly the only possible one that everyone who disagrees is being one of those rude names that you risk being banned for? I hope it's the drink talking.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:52 am

Somethingfishy wrote:How did Everton get away with it last season then?

I would be inclined to believe the Beano before the Daily Mail.

I was thinking the same.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:14 am

If we were to progress and draw Hannover 96, I'm sure their fans would do the job for us. 2 birds 1 stone!

ALP · Post by **ALP** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:29 am

Not very environmentally friendly having to remove timber and replace it with plastic