Labour Party set to purge and deselect rebellious MPs

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:13 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... Blair.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can’t say this surprises me.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:17 pm

Disloyal to Blair!? - why he's long since gone?

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:21 pm

If there was ever a time the country needed a strong opposition it's now. But they are ungovernable.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:24 pm

taio wrote:If there was ever a time the country needed a strong opposition it's now. But they are ungovernable.

Only because you believe the media

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:25 pm

The article is from 2004. I find it pertinent to today.

The deselections described in the article mostly didn’t take place, however they were being imposed from the top down, unlike the votes of no confidence kind of censuring we’re seeing currently.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:26 pm

joey13 wrote:Only because you believe the media

I await your post setting out what position the Labour party is really in.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:26 pm

CleggHall wrote:Disloyal to Blair!? - why he's long since gone?

I think that you’re missing the irony.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:27 pm

AndrewJB wrote:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... Blair.html

I can’t say this surprises me.

Try checking the date of the article

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:28 pm

taio wrote:I await your post setting out what position the Labour party is really in.

Try looking for yourself, it’s out there if you are that bothered, or just follow the sheep

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:31 pm

"ungovernable" or "unable to govern" ? Either way, sections of the media seem to be telling us this is so on a daily basis.
It makes you wonder why such an apparently washed-up outfit is still worthy of such headlines or air time.
Taio, we don't need a strong opposition, we need a government, any kind of government.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:31 pm

joey13 wrote:Try looking for yourself, it’s out there if you are that bothered, or just follow the sheep

I've got my own views as very briefly expressed i.e. ungovernable which is no good thing. It was a bit of a lazy response but not as lazy as yours.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Essentially Labour are deciding that you have to be loyal to the leadership.

Course, the fact that the current leader wasn't loyal at all is just glossed over as media bias.

I don't get to be honest, the Corbynistas are targeting every single MP who isn't a Corbynista. You have to be completely biased not to see that they are using this to purge every single moderate, slightly left or even quite long way to the left MP out of the party.

They think the country is ready for this type of politics.

Completely up to them of course, but the only reason they are getting anywhere near this level of support is because the oppositions are in just a big a mess.

They should be double digits points ahead in the polls, and there aren't. But apparently its because they are not left wing enough.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:38 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:"ungovernable" or "unable to govern" ? Either way, sections of the media seem to be telling us this is so on a daily basis.
It makes you wonder why such an apparently washed-up outfit is still worthy of such headlines or air time.
Taio, we don't need a strong opposition, we need a government, any kind of government.

You're right - unable to govern. And you're also right about the present government.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:39 pm

taio wrote:I've got my own views as very briefly expressed i.e. ungovernable which is no good thing. It was a bit of a lazy response but not as lazy as yours.

So you have made your mind up without checking out the facts , welll done hardly surprising the country is in the state it’s in .
It’s all your fault

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:42 pm

joey13 wrote:Try checking the date of the article

That’s why it didn’t surprise me.

While I’m at it apparently the Conservative Party haven’t included any the examples from the IHRA definition on anti-Semitism - which itself was only added to their rule book after they started attacking Labour about it. So I suppose we’ll soon see articles about how the Tories are an existential threat to Jews in Britain?

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:44 pm

joey13 wrote:So you have made your mind up without checking out the facts , welll done hardly surprising the country is in the state it’s in .
It’s all your fault

I don't agree with some people's opinions about politics but respect their opinion and often convincing opposite views. However, I can't ever recall you making a good and well thought out point, whether that's about politics, football or anything else for that matter. So I've no intention of engaging in a debate with you because there's zero value in it.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:51 pm

The most interesting battle is going to be for the leadership of the Tory party, because the winner will enter a general election with a Tory candidate in each seat standing against a hard left Marxist (if it carries on like this). Most marginal seats would never elect such a Labour candidate.

It’s the biggest open door the Tories have been shown for half a century. Somebody with charisma, leadership, intellect and the sense to promote tax cuts, equality, tolerance and inclusiveness in their manifesto would win with a 150 majority. You can see why they want May to get Brexit out of the way so they can then take the reins untarnished and start promoting that agenda. The risk is that Brexit remains in limbo, half in and half out, and it dominates the next election too (in which case, Corbyn could win).

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:53 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:It’s the biggest open door the Tories have been shown for half a century.

Correction - Biggest open door the Conservatives have been shown for 13 months.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:55 pm

And you two completely ignore that there is no Conservative leader who can do that, and there isn't an appetite in the country for it.

Both the right wings and the left wings of this debate are as mad as each other.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:00 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Essentially Labour are deciding that you have to be loyal to the leadership.

Course, the fact that the current leader wasn't loyal at all is just glossed over as media bias.

I don't get to be honest, the Corbynistas are targeting every single MP who isn't a Corbynista. You have to be completely biased not to see that they are using this to purge every single moderate, slightly left or even quite long way to the left MP out of the party.

They think the country is ready for this type of politics.

Completely up to them of course, but the only reason they are getting anywhere near this level of support is because the oppositions are in just a big a mess.

They should be double digits points ahead in the polls, and there aren't. But apparently its because they are not left wing enough.

All that has happened is a handful of Labour MPs have been censured by their local party members, and all for different reasons. Votes of no confidence isn't deselection, and Corbyn has said he's against mandatory reselection of MPs. As my link shows, even Blair's party was riven with division, and he wanted a top down approach to deselection. If any current Labour MPs happen to get deselected, then it will be by their local members who feel their MP hasn't worked hard enough or reflected their wishes appropriately.

All three main parties have internal issues right now. I think that will continue for the foreseeable future. Both the Tories and LibDems have attacked Momentum as being some sort of shadowy party within a party (despite the fact there are many such groups within Labour). But the Tories and LibDems have also tried to emulate Momentum, which is kind of funny.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:02 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Somebody with charisma, leadership, intellect and the sense to promote tax cuts, equality, tolerance and inclusiveness in their manifesto would win with a 150 majority.

Isn't that at odds with many in the party who think Britain should go back to the days of the 'Stiff upper lip' etc.? You can't promote the idea of equality, tolerance and inclusiveness on one hand and on the other say that we need to be tougher in other respects.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:08 pm

Both parties seem hell bent of changing the idea of them being "broad churches"

IMHO of course!

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:11 pm

I can think of a few Labour MP's who I would be delighted if they got deselected:

Joan Ryan...Enfield North

John Mann...Bassetlaw

Chuka Umunna...Streatham

Margaret Hodge... Barking and Dagenham

Luciana Berger...Liverpool Wavertree

etc

The Israel Lobby’s Non-stop Attacks on Corbyn Will Backfire .....Jonathan Cook

"..Corbyn’s supporters have argued.. he is being subjected to a campaign of smears to oust him from the leadership because of his very public championing over many decades of the Palestinian cause......

..Mounting evidence in both the UK and the US suggests that the Israeli government is taking a significant, if covert, role in coordinating and directing such efforts to sully the reputation of prominent critics....

..One of the largest and most effective groups in Corbyn’s parliamentary party is Labour Friends of Israel (LFI), most of whose members are not Jewish. LFI takes some of the party’s most senior politicians on all-expenses-paid trips to Israel to wine and dine them as they are subjected to Israeli propaganda.

Dozens of Labour MPs have remained loyal to LFI even as the organisation has repeatedly refused to criticise Israel over undeniable war crimes.

When Israeli snipers executed dozens of unarmed demonstrators in Gaza in May, the LFI took to Twitter to blame Hamas for the deaths, not Israel....

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:17 pm

I'm kinda hoping that you are not a Labour party member Bluelab

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:31 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:The most interesting battle is going to be for the leadership of the Tory party, because the winner will enter a general election with a Tory candidate in each seat standing against a hard left Marxist (if it carries on like this). Most marginal seats would never elect such a Labour candidate.

It’s the biggest open door the Tories have been shown for half a century. Somebody with charisma, leadership, intellect and the sense to promote tax cuts, equality, tolerance and inclusiveness in their manifesto would win with a 150 majority. You can see why they want May to get Brexit out of the way so they can then take the reins untarnished and start promoting that agenda. The risk is that Brexit remains in limbo, half in and half out, and it dominates the next election too (in which case, Corbyn could win).

I will laugh if the Tories run their next campaign on tax cuts. Especially after May floated more than a few balloons about tax rises in order to fund the NHS. What services will they cut next to fund the tax breaks? Which public sector workers would get further pay cuts in real terms? Or will they just do it like Trump and blow a huge hole in the budget? After selling austerity on the need to balance the books, most people will wonder why austerity and all the suffering was needed at all, if a budget deficit is no longer important.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:00 pm

AndrewJB wrote:I will laugh if the Tories run their next campaign on tax cuts. Especially after May floated more than a few balloons about tax rises in order to fund the NHS. What services will they cut next to fund the tax breaks? Which public sector workers would get further pay cuts in real terms? Or will they just do it like Trump and blow a huge hole in the budget? After selling austerity on the need to balance the books, most people will wonder why austerity and all the suffering was needed at all, if a budget deficit is no longer important.

I agree, it feels the debate HAS moved more to tax rises, but the Brexit paper by the ERG which is evolving seems to contain an element of tax cuts, as does the Boris piece in the Torygraph today, so we cannot rule it out. The one tax cut I advocate after Brexit, corporation tax, is ironically the one not mentioned. Austerity was always going to be the iceberg under the waterline - it went on too long and too deep, and has alienated people to the potential for sensible tax cuts.

Rowls wrote:Correction - Biggest open door the Conservatives have been shown for 13 months.

True, you've got me there - however, 13 months ago it was the old Labour candidates. This may seem very different now to a local electorate.

Spijed wrote:Isn't that at odds with many in the party who think Britain should go back to the days of the 'Stiff upper lip' etc.? You can't promote the idea of equality, tolerance and inclusiveness on one hand and on the other say that we need to be tougher in other respects.

Well, I wasn't promoting it of course, I was suggested it was how the Tories could win a landslide. I generally do agree though with the those 3 things but also believe in a tougher line on things like benefits, crime etc. What I want is fairness, and I appreciate that we all have a different view on what that is.

I agree with Lancs too, the Tories don't seem to have such a candidate, but what do we know? The best candidates are hidden from view. It ain't Boris, it ain't Davidson, it ain't Javid.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:11 pm

The Labour Party is finished rest in peace...

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:13 pm

I trust Corbyn & I truly believe he knows what he's doing, he gets a lot of unfair press in my opinion, labour have been leaning too far left for quite a awhile now & a cull is probably long overdue to make the party more electable, probably benefit from a different sprinkling of politicians akin to the ilk of gerard batten to accomplish a more meaningful direction & attract more support.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:23 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:I trust Corbyn & I truly believe he knows what he's doing, he gets a lot of unfair press in my opinion, labour have been leaning too far left for quite a awhile now & a cull is probably long overdue to make the party more electable, probably benefit from a different sprinkling of politicians akin to the ilk of gerard batten to accomplish a more meaningful direction & attract more support.

The film will be of anyone not supporting Corbyn...
I.e the Social Democrat Blair legacy will be replace by the hard left Corbyn folk. All done by £3 folk who contribute absolutely nothing other than a vote for Corbyn.

I am a Labour man but Corbyn, despite some of his ideas, shows no leadership qualities, whatsoever.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:21 pm

IanMcL wrote:The film will be of anyone not supporting Corbyn...
I.e the Social Democrat Blair legacy will be replace by the hard left Corbyn folk. All done by £3 folk who contribute absolutely nothing other than a vote for Corbyn.

I am a Labour man but Corbyn, despite some of his ideas, shows no leadership qualities, whatsoever.

People perceive him as a dinosaur his image is dated, if you had somebody younger charismatic would appeal more, to me that lies a major problem with him fronting which to a certain degree ties in with the lack of "leadership qualities".

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:43 pm

IanMcL wrote:The film will be of anyone not supporting Corbyn...
I.e the Social Democrat Blair legacy will be replace by the hard left Corbyn folk. All done by £3 folk who contribute absolutely nothing other than a vote for Corbyn.
I am a Labour man but Corbyn, despite some of his ideas, shows no leadership qualities, whatsoever.

Are you under threat of deselection, Ian ? It may just be that the reason that the people's Party have only 3 out of the 98 Councillors on your Council, is that the three of you are not Trotskyite enough ..... If you were to don a Che Guavara T-shirt, a Palestinian type scarf and a Beret adorned with a Hammer and Sickle, you may find the good folk of Wiltshire flocking to the Red flag, wearing dungarees and storming the Palaces of the mighty before you can say " Corbynista " !!

Just a thought ....

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:45 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:I agree, it feels the debate HAS moved more to tax rises, but the Brexit paper by the ERG which is evolving seems to contain an element of tax cuts, as does the Boris piece in the Torygraph today, so we cannot rule it out. The one tax cut I advocate after Brexit, corporation tax, is ironically the one not mentioned. Austerity was always going to be the iceberg under the waterline - it went on too long and too deep, and has alienated people to the potential for sensible tax cuts.

True, you've got me there - however, 13 months ago it was the old Labour candidates. This may seem very different now to a local electorate.

Well, I wasn't promoting it of course, I was suggested it was how the Tories could win a landslide. I generally do agree though with the those 3 things but also believe in a tougher line on things like benefits, crime etc. What I want is fairness, and I appreciate that we all have a different view on what that is.

I agree with Lancs too, the Tories don't seem to have such a candidate, but what do we know? The best candidates are hidden from view. It ain't Boris, it ain't Davidson, it ain't Javid.

I saw that ERG piece, and they suggested the tax cuts will be funded by the “brexit bonus” or the £350 Million that was suggested for the NHS. I can’t see the population at large agreeing to fork that over - especially to fund a capital gains tax cut. That’ll be meat and potatoes to Labour, who will be running on an economic fairness platform. If it’s Johnson leading the party you’ll see plenty of clips of him alongside the description of his £250K newspaper salary as “chickenfeed” and calling black children “piccaninnies” Corbyn is unfortunate enough to have been filmed using the term “friends” in describing people he’s discussed peace with, however at around the same time Johnson was probably smashing up a restaurant or burning £50 notes in front of homeless people with his Bullingdon gang. It won’t be hard to show how out of touch Johnson is. In my mind the Tories are better off picking a relative unknown, going with a soft Brexit, and avoiding an election for as long as possible. I doubt they have the discipline right now to come together over Brexit. As for Labour, there is a fight between the members and the hierarchy, but Momentum candidates have already won many senior positions, and as Blair recently said, Corbyn has won. The old hierarchy is in no position now to stop the members forcing through changes to keep the party democratic (answerable to the members, rather than the top down Blair model), so while figures like Umunna will trumpet their opinions, their voices in driving policy (real power) will be diminished. The attacks on Corbyn will continue, just as his policy announcements are ignored or twisted out of shape, but with time lose their edge, and when the election comes the media have to report his actual words so the field levels up a lot.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:05 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:The Labour Party is finished rest in peace...

You reckon ?

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:24 pm

IanMcL wrote:The film will be of anyone not supporting Corbyn...
I.e the Social Democrat Blair legacy will be replace by the hard left Corbyn folk. All done by £3 folk who contribute absolutely nothing other than a vote for Corbyn.

I am a Labour man but Corbyn, despite some of his ideas, shows no leadership qualities, whatsoever.

I’m a Green Party member, but I have a lot of Labour friends, and the newer members (some of whom weren’t allowed to vote in the last leadership election despite paying full fare) shake their heads at being called Trots or commies. All the ones I know are just ordinary people that galvanised themselves to join Labour and turn back Tory misrule, and the thanks they got from some serving Labour people was to be called names - even “rabble” or “****” What political party turns their noses up at a doubled membership? All the various hard left parties in 2015 could not have had more than 10k of members between them, so there’s no way the rest of the 290k were secret commies just biding their time over Das Kapital waiting for their chance. If Labour is a big church that is as much about you being welcoming as them being respectful of you.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:10 pm

I have no problem with Labour members being Trots, but I do think they have to tone down the viciousness and bile because it will put off the electorate (and wasn’t as evident to people in 2017). I sense it isn’t Corbyn in charge, he is just a figurehead. McDonnell is closer to power, but even he doesn’t pull all the strings. What goes on in the shadows will be the legacy this brand of Labour leaves.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:13 pm

You've got some chutzpah Crosspool going down that road I'll say that!

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:50 pm

Labour's going to have go through the militant tendency agonies all over again if they want the votes of Joe Public.
Whilst Corbyn is popular with Trots and Marxists, your average Joe won't vote for him.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:57 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:Labour's going to have go through the militant tendency agonies all over again if they want the votes of Joe Public.
Whilst Corbyn is popular with Trots and Marxists, your average Joe won't vote for him.

They won seats like Canterbury because of Momentum!

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:43 pm

Spijed wrote:They won seats like Canterbury because of Momentum!

I await the next general election with some interest.
Labour as we know it now may not exist by then.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:You've got some chutzpah Crosspool going down that road I'll say that!

Remember I am not a Tory.

I have voted Labour and Lib Dem more times than Tory. I do though like your use of Yiddish in referencing the Labour Party. Very apt.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:24 pm

Momentum is absolutely teeming with people like BlueLab

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:16 pm

Spijed wrote:They won seats like Canterbury because of Momentum!

I'd suggest Brexit was a bigger factor than momentum in university seats like Canterbury.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:10 am

Clarets4me wrote:Are you under threat of deselection, Ian ? It may just be that the reason that the people's Party have only 3 out of the 98 Councillors on your Council, is that the three of you are not Trotskyite enough ..... If you were to don a Che Guavara T-shirt, a Palestinian type scarf and a Beret adorned with a Hammer and Sickle, you may find the good folk of Wiltshire flocking to the Red flag, wearing dungarees and storming the Palaces of the mighty before you can say " Corbynista " !!

Just a thought ....

Was 'reselected' in 2017. Having got 75% vote in the previous election, it would have been odd if I was not selected. Tories went all out to get me but I still got 60%. The county is largely rural and Labour have only been strong when Swindon was included. When Wiltshire Unitary Council was formed in 2009, the Labour Cllrs were slaughtered and have never recovered. There was just 2 of us then! The 2 became 4 then back to 3. All Salisbury.

I have my Che T shirt, my Burnley and McL tartan scarf but no beret! All the Tories vote for me, The Liberals stopped putting up a candidate, as did UKIP. They decided I was invincible! My parish smashed Salisbury in a boubsarg war, they started. Hence, why they came all guns blazing to get their Tory vote out. The guy thought he was home and dry, because they all said they were true blue! (Which they are).

On the day, I met him at the village hall polling station. As we were chatting, every person who came to vote wished me good luck! Next day he said he realised then that he had asked the wrong question! I am Blair rather than Corbyn, although Corbyn had a good manifesto. He has done nothing to sell himself or the practicality of his policies to the electorate. Lost opportunity. Non-leader.
Up the Clarets!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:15 am

AndrewJB wrote:I’m a Green Party member, but I have a lot of Labour friends, and the newer members (some of whom weren’t allowed to vote in the last leadership election despite paying full fare) shake their heads at being called Trots or commies. All the ones I know are just ordinary people that galvanised themselves to join Labour and turn back Tory misrule, and the thanks they got from some serving Labour people was to be called names - even “rabble” or “****” What political party turns their noses up at a doubled membership? All the various hard left parties in 2015 could not have had more than 10k of members between them, so there’s no way the rest of the 290k were secret commies just biding their time over Das Kapital waiting for their chance. If Labour is a big church that is as much about you being welcoming as them being respectful of you.

They should all pay the proper rate not £3, unless £3 is to be the rate. Their number does include some very radical folk. In itself, not an issue, except the rest are invisible, other than just voting Corbyn at any opportunity.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:58 am

IanMcL wrote:They should all pay the proper rate not £3, unless £3 is to be the rate. Their number does include some very radical folk. In itself, not an issue, except the rest are invisible, other than just voting Corbyn at any opportunity.

There have been no £3 members for years, and when that was introduced it was feted as a masterful way around union power. The last time Corbyn won the leadership tens of thousands of fully paid up new members were excluded from voting. That was, as you might recall, when many MPs tried to “deselect” their democratically elected leader.

Out of three hundred thousand new members you will get some who have radical ideas. That’s normal, and also within the process of conversation and debate those ideas get exposed as good or bad. Many people say the party is reinvigorated.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:15 am

It's cool having so many members, 'record numbers'.. as Donald would say. And having a good turnout at the last election, best in decades apparently. All those big rallies are smashing, just look at all the people. That's terrific.

But Tony Blair won elections for fun, one after the other. Jeremy Corbyn managed to lose one with the Tories a complete shambles, an absolute horrow show of a campaign by May, years of bulls**t austerity and Brexit either boring and dividing the whole country.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:18 am

And this anti-semitism thingy isn't going away either.

That lass in Canterbury getting threatened with censure because of four members of her constituency party clearly are anti-semitic is a case in point.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:29 am

Lancasterclaret

"..four members of her constituency party clearly are anti-semitic ...."

Could you provide some evidence for your assertion.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:38 am

YOU are asking me for some evidence?

Nice to see that you do have a sense of humour at any rate

They wanted to de-select her for turning up at demo to campaign against anti-semitism in the Labour party.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:55 am

Lancasterclaret

"..four members of her constituency party clearly are anti-semitic ...."

Could you provide some evidence for your assertion.

I can discern no evidence in your reply. You are simply smearing four members of her constituency!